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[KSuri]

Why do you have to make my Hawke sound like a complete jerk when Merrill comes to the house in Hightown? At 100% rivalry and absolutely NO flirting with her how did she possibly think I was interested in her in more than a sisterly way? Hasn't anyone in the writing department heard of a gentle rejection?

Merrill knows I hate that she's a blood mage and that I'm worried she'll believe anything a demon will tell her and blindly unleash hell in Kirkwall. But, dammit!, she's so stinking nice that you can't help but want to protect her from herself. There has to be a way to fix this BEFORE she comes to the house and sticks me with two choices. One of YOU knows how to get out of this. Please help me and my Hawke to avoid beiing an ass to her.

[mesmerizedish]

She's not supposed to come to your house unless you've flirted with her. Sounds like a bug.

In other news, if you have to sleep with her to avoid being mean to her, WELL THAT'S JUST A RISK YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE YOU MONSTER.

[hoorayforicecream]

I'm pretty sure you hit a heart somewhere along the way. I went through two 100% rivalry playthroughs and she never showed up at Hawke's estate after throwing Hawke out. I also never flirted with her in either playthrough.

[DoNotIngest]

Start over and be nice to Merrill. Trust me, this is the only thing to be done.

[3zone5]

I want to kick this puppy on one of my playthrough.

Stay away from the hearts and she shouldn't show up.

Modifié par 3zone5, 29 mars 2011 - 08:50 .

[Sjofn]

Yeah, I think you mighta done a heart at some point by accident.

Also, don't listen to DoNotIngest, rival4life with Merril, imo.

[Vhalkyrie]

You just buried yourself in Merrill's heart, like a worm from a red, red apple.  You heartworm, you! 

Seriously.  If I could play Kirkwall matchmaker, I'd put the bad poet and Merrill on a date.  And video the hilarity.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 29 mars 2011 - 09:08 .

[KSuri]

>.< This is truly a no win situation. Either step on her self esteem even more or sleep with her and have the uncomfortable "I love you dialogue come up". Who wrote this??? Was it a man? Haven't they ever used the "Man it's getting late, you should probably go." Or the, "We had better hurry along and save Kirkwall." dodge? **Shakes fist at BW**

[Maria Caliban]

Mary wrote Merrill and Varric.

[Addai]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

You just buried yourself in Merrill's heart, like a worm from a red, red apple.  You heartworm, you! 

Seriously.  If I could play Kirkwall matchmaker, I'd put the bad poet and Merrill on a date.  And video the hilarity.

The bad poet is Nathaniel Howe, so I want him to read my Hawke some bad poetry. 

[Sjofn]

She'll bounce back from the break up. She could not possibly have a bigger fit than Anders does when you sleep with him, then tell him no he can't move in.

(I love Anders, but that dialogue is hilarious.)

[Addai]

KSuri wrote...

>.< This is truly a no win situation. Either step on her self esteem even more or sleep with her and have the uncomfortable "I love you dialogue come up". Who wrote this??? Was it a man? Haven't they ever used the "Man it's getting late, you should probably go." Or the, "We had better hurry along and save Kirkwall." dodge? **Shakes fist at BW**

You hit a heart somewhere, it's not the writer's fault. 

[GSSAGE7]

Maybe it's because I only did it with a FemHawke, but her line of "You're like a sister to me", before Merril apparently tries to bed Hawke didn't sound that heartbreaking.
Maybe it's cause Hawke's other sister found herself on the buisness end of an Ogre fist. Couldn't say.

[KSuri]

Even if I did hit a heart. ONE heart, a little middle ground might be nice.

[UltiPup]

Have you tried just never going home again? Fenris is right around the corner and he has a spare room or two.

[Mary Kirby]

You shouldn't be getting this conversation unless you flirt with her. And even if you do, there should be a "You're like a sister to me/ You're my friend." option that lets her down gently.

[KSuri]

Thanks Mary. I will go to an earlier save and see if I can negiotate the dialogue better. I hate being mean! (Unless it's needed, of course.).

[OraVelnoria87]

Yeah I told her she was like a sister and she seemed a little flustered but I got friend points. I was like Bawww...Merril is so understanding,

[quickthorn]

Okay, I asked for it as my FemHawke was flirting with both Merrill and Isabela up until the Act 2 Hawke estate scenes. I never saw the 'You're like a sister to me' line. Instead it was 'You could muck about with demons and blood magic all you like if it didn't endanger Kirkwall' or sleep with her and then tell her it was just a fling. Maybe it was because my Hawke had kept hold of the item she wanted and refused to give it to her?

Anyway, this is on a third playthrough and she never showed up before this. There wasn't any flirting the previous two times.  So I think that if anyone's getting her show up a heart has been selected sometime.

Modifié par quickthorn, 29 mars 2011 - 09:49 .

[Torax]

I did love her standing up for herself by calling Hawke just another Shemlen. She was really going for the Jugular as best she could. But she couldn't hold out for long. She had to make amends.

[Mary Kirby]

quickthorn wrote...

Okay, I asked for it as my FemHawke was flirting with both Merrill and Isabela up until the Act 2 Hawke estate scenes. I never saw the 'You're like a sister to me' line. Instead it was 'You could muck about with demons and blood magic all you like if it didn't endanger Kirkwall' or sleep with her and then tell her it was just a fling. Maybe it was because my Hawke had kept hold of the item she wanted and refused to give it to her?

Anyway, this is on a third playthrough and she never showed up before this. There wasn't any flirting the previous two times.  So I think that if anyone's getting her show up a heart has been selected sometime.

Yeah, I just checked the dialogue file. On the rivalry path, the let down is to tell her that you're worried her blood magic will endanger people. She's not happy about that, but it's not a, "No, I wouldn't sleep with you if you were the last woman in Thedas."

[KSuri]

That sounds about right Quickthorn. Except I wasn't flirting with anyone (knowingly) but Fenris and Aveline from time to time. She showed up, I didn't give her the knife on her quest and I ended with stomp on her or sleep with her.

Anyway, going to give Hawke a re-do. I messed it up somewhere. Still think there should be a bail out option. Or the, "Oh, wow, look at the time!" *uncomfortable chuckle

[Vhalkyrie]

I agree.  I think the sarcastic dialog should have been the 'easy' let down.

*Yawn* Well thanks for coming over. I've got to get to bed. Demons and apostate mages to kill tomorrow. Err...whoops. Not you, heh heh.

*Sends Bodahn to escort her out*

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 29 mars 2011 - 10:07 .

[Ruben Thomas]

I had the same exact problem with Anders, if I was nice to him during a conversation it lead to and </3 options, and the </3 option made my Hawke sound like a massive jackass and gave me huge rivalry points.

If I was sarcastic or agressive with him, I didn't get the or </3 options, but I got massive rivalry points anyway.

It's really annoying, why can't I be nice, and just shut him down by saying something like Diplomatic: "Anders you're a great guy, I support your cause, I'll help you free the mages and we can be buddies, but I don't swing that way."

Instead you're forced to be a douchebag, or be homosexual...

Modifié par Ruben Thomas, 29 mars 2011 - 10:28 .

[Vhalkyrie]

For the next game, I suggest:

Top dialog: Let's get it on! Woohoo!
Middle dialog: Sorry, but I have to wash my hair.
Bottom dialog: Not touching that. Nut uh.

I think any let down option depends on the character whether you get rivalry or not. Anders is a sensitive guy, so it makes sense he would be hurt by being turned down. Isabela or Zevran are more detached, so they wouldn't be bothered being turned down.  Merrill would go psycho with bottom dialog.

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 29 mars 2011 - 10:43 .