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[GordonNoob2010]

So Shepard slaughters his way through the Asteriod base with minutes left.
Does he warn the Batarian colonists of the impending destruction of the system?

He stops for a second to ponders.
Doing so may save dozens of lives. There must be at least one or two people who happen to be on a spaceworthy ship and fast enough to actually make it to safety before the sytem is wiped out.

Doing so also leaves damnable evidence of Shepard's involvement, and may contribute to starting a war. Chances are, any of the already scant evidence against Shepard will be destroyed in the explosion.

Doing so also leaves an infinitessimally small possibility that some Batarian ship was close enough and powerful enough to stop the asteroid from destroying the relay. But the probability is small enough to discount it.

Leave behind evidence and Warn the colonists, perhaps saving a dozen or so lives, at the cost of possibly contributing to an already hostile relation?

ON the other hand, if the reapers are going to arrive in the milky way through or near Batarian space, there is a chance the Batarians simply won't live long enough to start a war. Especially since those same Reapers must detour through to the next relay, which may mean they must take a SUPER long detour through Batarian space.

"Joker, Get me out of here"

[Uszi]

Too bad it has no effect on anything, and choosing it, you get interrupted by the Doctor before anything intelligible gets out.

So it's a non-choice. Either you fail to notify the colonists because you don't try, or you fail because you get cut off by the Doctor.

[xzxzxz701]

Even if you try to warn the Colonists, you get interrupted even before you can get the message out.

[QwertyQwerty]

We finally get a choice in DLC... but it turns out to pretty much do nothing.

[Baihu1983]

Yeah that was the moblem for me with the story. Why give us a fake choice that simply leads to the same outcome and 2 Paragon/Renegade points.

[darknoon5]

Another example of Arrival's biggest flaw; no choices.

The only choice I recall was shooting Kenson, but that has the same impact anyway.

[aimlessgun]

You forgot to mention choosing it to kill as many gud-damn terrorist batarians as possible.

In any case, really not much of a choice, as Uszi said.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

No matters what you want to do, you won't be able to warn Batarian colonists because internal communication array is destroyed and Dr.Kenson is preventing you from doing so. LEt's just hope this doesn't cause war between Humanity and Batarians in ME3.

[Bebbe777]

If you decide to warn the colonists, then the end dialogue with Hackett will change somewhat.

[Robhuzz]

Seems I didn't miss out on any content by choosing not to warn the colonists.. I mean we finally get a chance to blow up a bunch of those terrorists and you'd want to mess up that opportunity?

No matters what you want to do, you won't be able to warn Batarian colonists because internal communication array is destroyed and Dr.Kenson is preventing you from doing so. LEt's just hope this doesn't cause war between Humanity and Batarians in ME3.

Why not? We could always just pull another 'Project' but this time it'd be the relay in the batarian's home system *Evil laugh* 

Modifié par Robhuzz, 29 mars 2011 - 09:09 .

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Robhuzz - I love this idea more than I love beer

[Legbiter]

What I like about the Project is that in the end it's also Operation Good Start regarding the Batarians.

Not a peep from this Shepard.

[Oricard]

QwertyQwerty wrote...

We finally get a choice in DLC... but it turns out to pretty much do nothing.

If I'm not mistaken Commander Shepard says his name when he tries to contact the Batarians. Now what if some outlying ship heres the message before he gets cut off? Now they know Shepard was involved, and could be used as fuel againts Shepard for the relay desruction when he goes to trial back on Earth. They would paint him as a Cerberus Operative who destroyed the Alpha Mass Relay, It's star system, and the  three hundred thousand Batarian lives that resided there.

[Robhuzz]

Oricard wrote...

QwertyQwerty wrote...

We finally get a choice in DLC... but it turns out to pretty much do nothing.

If I'm not mistaken Commander Shepard says his name when he tries to contact the Batarians. Now what if some outlying ship heres the message before he gets cut off? Now they know Shepard was involved, and could be used as fuel againts Shepard for the relay desruction when he goes to trial back on Earth. They would paint him as a Cerberus Operative who destroyed the Alpha Mass Relay, It's star system, and the  three hundred thousand Batarian lives that resided there.

Yes but it's just batarians. Nobody really cares about them. Now if it were a turian or asari or salarian colony... then shepard might be in trouble. God that would've been a dilemma:

To blow up the relay and 300.000 turians/salarians/asari and to postpone the reaper invasion (and then getting kicked off the citadel and a massive humans vs citadel war ensures, which we'll win anyway because we've got cerberus and Shepard's super badass team)

OR

Not to blow up the relay and 300.000 turians/salarians/asari and get destroyed by the reapers just a short while later.

[DaBigDragon]

Uszi wrote...

Too bad it has no effect on anything, and choosing it, you get interrupted by the Doctor before anything intelligible gets out.

So it's a non-choice. Either you fail to notify the colonists because you don't try, or you fail because you get cut off by the Doctor.

It has no effect on anything right now. If in ME3 you go to trial, what if there is a recording of that attempted transmission to warn the Batarians? That most definitely can help you in the trial.

[Robhuzz]

DaBigDragon wrote...

Uszi wrote...

Too bad it has no effect on anything, and choosing it, you get interrupted by the Doctor before anything intelligible gets out.

So it's a non-choice. Either you fail to notify the colonists because you don't try, or you fail because you get cut off by the Doctor.

It has no effect on anything right now. If in ME3 you go to trial, what if there is a recording of that attempted transmission to warn the Batarians? That most definitely can help you in the trial.

That's if there even IS a trial. I know for a fact if I have a choice in the matter I'll simply skip the trial (or at least go there heavily armed). I'm NOT going to jail for 1. Attempted saving the galaxy. 2. Blowing up a few 100.000 batarians nobody really cares about anyway. (Yes I dislike batarians and would love to see them whiped out. Wish there was a way to hack the reapers to take down the batarians first. After the batarians are destroyed, the other races should've come up with a way to stop the reapers)

[Alixen]

Likewise, while my Shepard is a Paragon and tried to warn the Batarians there are a few things that mean the trial won't happen.

I'm still a Spectre. When the Reapers arrive and if we and the Council survive, the choice will be vindicated and covered by Council and Spectre authority.

I also don't plan on returning to Earth or the Aliance to do anything but negotiate and fight the Reapers. They abandoned me on Horizen and Anderson kept important information from me. They have repeatedly used Shepard as a scapegoat since ME1. The fact that it had to be Cerberus that did something against Hanbinger speaks volumes. They don't get to put a Spectre on trial; and Shepard will be moving to Ilum with Liara after everything is over.

The Alliance is effectively dead for my Shepard. It also never quite seems to grasp that by making Shepard a Spectre they basically gave up any right to order him around. Hell, he was 'officialy' killed. Effectively s/he's no longer an Alliance soldier. KIA.

Modifié par Alixen, 30 mars 2011 - 04:18 .

[xzxzxz701]

Alixen wrote...

Likewise, while my Shepard is a Paragon and tried to warn the Batarians there are a few things that mean the trial won't happen.

I'm still a Spectre. When the Reapers arrive and if we and the Council survive, the choice will be vindicated and covered by Council and Spectre authority.

I also don't plan on returning to Earth or the Aliance to do anything but negotiate and fight the Reapers. They abandoned me on Horizen and Anderson kept important information from me. They have repeatedly used Shepard as a scapegoat since ME1. The fact that it had to be Cerberus that did something against Hanbinger speaks volumes. They don't get to put a Spectre on trial; and Shepard will be moving to Ilum with Liara after everything is over.

The Alliance is effectively dead for my Shepard. It also never quite seems to grasp that by making Shepard a Spectre they basically gave up any right to order him around. Hell, he was 'officialy' killed. Effectively s/he's no longer an Alliance soldier. KIA.

Spectre or no, Shep may not have a choice. He killed 300, 000 Batarians and blew up a relay to allegadly stop the Reapers, and many people in the Alliance and the Council refuse to even believe the Reapers are real.

Your still a human who pretty much did a MAJOR act of terroism, the Council won't stop the Alliance from putting you on trial, and your Shep won't have a choice.

[eye basher]

Actually first of all sheperd is human second his/her specter status is just a title the council is covering there ass the council doesn't like sheperd at all and if this comes out most likely the council will say that sheperd went rouge like saren and is a terrorist working for cerberus.

[88mphSlayer]

i think it'd be interesting if you get put on trial and there is recovered audio... if you attempted to contact the batarians then they're more lenient on you, if you went straight for the normandy then they're hostile

[Slayer299]

Bebbe777 wrote...

If you decide to warn the colonists, then the end dialogue with Hackett will change somewhat.

How does it change?

[CajunRexShepard]

I dislike Batarians. This I've mentioned several times. That being said, my soldier shep is a paragon to the extreme, and even *I* wished for a way to attempt to do the right thing and save the colony while denying the reapers their entryway into the galaxy. It was 'bring down the sky' all over again, only this time *we* were Balak, and we had ulterior motives in ramming a militarized asteroid into a mass relay.I don't see how legally the Batarians can call for a trial anyway. They closed down their embassy on the citadel and have been fighting proxy wars in the traverse against humans for years- not exactly a stable platform from which to be taken seriously. They also have no claim against the alliance because the ship and the person carrying out the mission were on the alliance roster. The Doctor? They had suspicions but they never found her base, it'd take a leap of faith to directly implicate her... all the evidence of what they did died with her.

It's an attempt at saber rattling and power grabbing from the biggest bunch of whiners in the galaxy, the Batarians. "WAH! THE HUMANS ARE TAKING OUR STUFF!" Get over it, four-eyes. Go find more, do what everyone else is doing. Don't get all butt-hurt and try to hate on us just because we were quicker on the trigger in the traverse.

[Kekkis]

That trial could be good way to do explain/make setup for what has happened to players, who start new game in ME3 without playing ME1 and ME2. Or if you killed everyone and don´t want to play from beginning again.