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[SupidSeep]

Nope, a Paragon Shepard would attend the trial when called upon to do it when the time comes. What the Council or Alliance or other people did or fail to do is not an excuse for Shepard to avoid attending the trial and admitting responsibility for the action leading to the death of hundreds of thousands.

[Robhuzz]

So am I the only one who forsees a major frustration in ME3? I mean when udina locked down the normandy and no one would believe me in ME1 I almost lost it. I wanted to biotically punch udina out the window and use force choke on all 3 council members. In ME3 we'll soon be stuck between:

1. The reapers are coming (but no one will believe me!!)
2. I'm being arrested for mass genocide because it was the only way to give the galaxy some more time (but no one will believe me!)
3. We might have to fight a war with the batarians, being a council race the other council races are pretty much obliged to come to our aid (but they probably won't and they'll blame shepard)

It's just my opinion though, there's no need to go spreading it around

[Gill Kaiser]

I'm guessing the majority of ME3's plot will involve Shepard convincing various factions that the Reaper threat is real and gaining their support, military, fleets, etc.

[Robhuzz]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I'm guessing the majority of ME3's plot will involve Shepard convincing various factions that the Reaper threat is real and gaining their support, military, fleets, etc.

I doubt they'll make much difference though. I mean.. we'd need a few 1000 fleets to take down that many reapers. Think our best bet is still with the rachni and the geth, at least those two factions know the reapers are real.

[DaBigDragon]

Alixen wrote...

Likewise, while my Shepard is a Paragon and tried to warn the Batarians there are a few things that mean the trial won't happen.

I'm still a Spectre. When the Reapers arrive and if we and the Council survive, the choice will be vindicated and covered by Council and Spectre authority.

I also don't plan on returning to Earth or the Aliance to do anything but negotiate and fight the Reapers. They abandoned me on Horizen and Anderson kept important information from me. They have repeatedly used Shepard as a scapegoat since ME1. The fact that it had to be Cerberus that did something against Hanbinger speaks volumes. They don't get to put a Spectre on trial; and Shepard will be moving to Ilum with Liara after everything is over.

The Alliance is effectively dead for my Shepard. It also never quite seems to grasp that by making Shepard a Spectre they basically gave up any right to order him around. Hell, he was 'officialy' killed. Effectively s/he's no longer an Alliance soldier. KIA.

To be honest, I don't think being a Spectre will help here. Admiral Hackett said to show up on Earth in your "dress blues" meaning your Alliance uniform. You'd be going to trial as a human representing the Alliance. Also, the council did not take kindly to Saren attacking a human colony so I doubt they would back you up after destroying a whole star system and killing 300,000 people lol.

Modifié par DaBigDragon, 30 mars 2011 - 06:53 .

[Werrf]

aimlessgun wrote...

You forgot to mention choosing it to kill as many gud-damn terrorist batarians as possible.

You mean as many slaves as possible.  Remember where the batarians get their slaves, Colonist Shepard?

Honestly, though, I don't think Shepard's Spectre status is going to be much help.  The batarians have withdrawn from the Citadel, closed their embassy, it's unlikely they recognise Spectre's authority to do what they like.  Add in that Shepard wasn't even on a Citadel mission but was effectively doing a personal favour for Admiral Hackett, it's unlikely she has the cover of her Spectre status on this one.

[Anihilus]

Meh the Batarians can die for all I care... *Calls the Normandy for pickup* +2 Renegade

[Schattenkeil]

I am pretty sure it will make a difference wheter or not you tried to warn them when it came to ME3.

Hehe. Maybe Shepard is executed at the beginning of ME3 and you get to continue as one former squad mate. Or you take over as a former crewmen / -woman. Jane or John Stockman.

[PrinceLionheart]

DaBigDragon wrote...

Uszi wrote...

Too bad it has no effect on anything, and choosing it, you get interrupted by the Doctor before anything intelligible gets out.

So it's a non-choice. Either you fail to notify the colonists because you don't try, or you fail because you get cut off by the Doctor.

It has no effect on anything right now. If in ME3 you go to trial, what if there is a recording of that attempted transmission to warn the Batarians? That most definitely can help you in the trial.

The base got nuked. How would there be a recording? 

[Alikain]

you will be long dead by the time they start the trial..... am getting this feeling that this closes shep story for good and pave the way for new heroes.

[Khayness]

I really missed the option to broadcast a one liner to the batarians.

"This is for Mindoir, you motherf-"

*interrupts*

"Commander, you will accomplish nothing!"

+30 Renegade points

Modifié par Khayness, 30 mars 2011 - 07:53 .

[Raya Aroukii]

Khayness wrote...

I really missed the option to broadcast a one liner to the batarians.

"This is for Mindoir, you motherf-"

*interrupts*

"Commander, you will accomplish nothing!"

+30 Renegade points

Or....

"Remember Torfan?"

[Alixen]

Hmm, I still reckon that as long as the Reapers arrive before the trial that the Council will defend you. Once you have been proven right no one should be trying to witch hunt you for Arrival.

My last post was considering that the Reapers will soon be no longer something that can be disbelieved.

And... I guess if worst came to worst and they tried to string Shep up for it my guy could just finally drop the last of his paragon-ness (he's been getting steadily less so from his treatment through the series) and go live with Liara. After all, Shep has a ot of allies of his own. The Shadow Broker not being the least; she could potentially stop the trial full stop, what with the blackmail she is capable of.

At the end of the day my Shepard won't be standing trial if I have a choice. Don't consider my Shepard humans representative anymore, nor part of the Alliance. He's a Spectre and just a Spectre.

As for people saying the Council 'hate' Shepard... I disagree. I think they are dunking their heads int he snad but I also think that re-enstating Shepard as a spectre really was a good olive branch. It went very well for me as a Paragon. I also think that when the Reapers do turn up (if Bioware write it realistically) all will be forgiven (even Arrival) on all sides to stop the Reapers.

What sort of timescale are we looking at between Arrival and ME2? Has anything been said/theorized? And is it the last DLC?

[Rafe34]

Alikain wrote...

you will be long dead by the time they start the trial..... am getting this feeling that this closes shep story for good and pave the way for new heroes.

What? Just... what? The ME3 trailer clearly shows Shephard, and the guy on the ground is expecting Shephard to show up with reinforcements.

[Alixen]

I think he means the trial will be after the Reaper invasion; at which point Shepard will likely have died (again) stopping them... leaving the franchise to go on to explore other new characters.

Can't say I like it (I want little blue babies) but have to admit I find it likely.

Modifié par Alixen, 31 mars 2011 - 01:27 .

[DingoEffect]

I don't think there can be choices in DLC. It would give those who are able to buy it and play it a different story than those who cannot get the DLC.

[100k]

*Shepard stops and considers the casualty count of his action. If he warns the Batarians, a few thousand lives could be saved at most.

Then Shepard considers who he's considering warning: Batarians.

"F*ck that."

*Shepard destroys the relay without warning the system. Animals.

[Bogsnot1]

Either way, there is going to be a trial. We're gonna need a lawyer.
http://social.biowar.../index/6848675/

[Varus Praetor]

darknoon5 wrote...

Another example of Arrival's biggest flaw; no choices.

The only choice I recall was shooting Kenson, but that has the same impact anyway.

Pretty sure that this flaw isn't isolated to Arrival.  Played DA2 yet?

[Mavkiel]

Varus Praetor wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Another example of Arrival's biggest flaw; no choices.

The only choice I recall was shooting Kenson, but that has the same impact anyway.

Pretty sure that this flaw isn't isolated to Arrival.  Played DA2 yet?

Grr I am trying to forget that. Curse your eyes! I was trying to be hopeful that this dlc was just setting up me3, and how dark it is. Not advertising all paths leading to rome of da2.

[HBC Dresden]

Hey, this reminds me, why didn't Shep wait for the Reapers to enter the system and then blow up the Alpha Relay taking out thousands of Reapers, maybe even Harbinger, in the process?

[DingoEffect]

HBC Dresden wrote...

Hey, this reminds me, why didn't Shep wait for the Reapers to enter the system and then blow up the Alpha Relay taking out thousands of Reapers, maybe even Harbinger, in the process?

Good observation. I didn't think about that. But now that you brought it up I can only think it's because they had no idea if the asteroid could really blow up the Mass Relay or not.

[Shadowomega23]

@HBC Dresden It is likely they could have torn the Astroid to bits before Impact with the relay, also like that even 16 Reapers get to the relay in time and move to another location and reak havok else where in the galaxy.