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[CRISIS1717]

MrTijger wrote...

CRISIS1717 wrote...

Volourn wrote...

"and Mike Laidlaw, between the both of them they destroyed the spirit of Dragon Age."

What's funny about this is Gaider is one of the people RESPONSIBLE for the 'spirit' of Dragon Age. L0LZ

Yes because someone who creates something cannot possibly ruin their own work (George Lucas).

And that still makes it their own work and their right to do so, fanboys have no say. Thank god.

Yes thank god they didn't consult the fans of the game after Origins who would have said hell no to the concept of DA2 and we would have an Origins style sequel that everyone would be content with. 

Yes thank god Bioware can direct the story however they wan't so it goes straight into the toilet. This IP is going to die a death when sales drop off after each rushed release. 

Yes thank god an IP is abused like this.

[Dutch105]

[quote]CRISIS1717 wrote...

[quote]Volourn wrote...

"and Mike Laidlaw, between the both of them they destroyed the spirit of Dragon Age."

What's funny about this is Gaider is one of the people RESPONSIBLE for the 'spirit' of Dragon Age. L0LZ

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Yes because someone who creates something cannot possibly ruin their own work (George Lucas).[/quote]
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I haven't played yet, so I don't know whether your assessment of the writing is correct.  I will assume that it is a fair assessment for the moment.  I also agree about George Lucas.

But I'm not sure why demanding someone's head and that they lose their livelihood for things you don't like is necessarily a proportionate reaction to your disappointment.  Vote with your wallet by all means if you don't like the game - buy none of the DLC and don't buy the next game or anything the studio does again. 

As creators of the content, they are entitled to "destroy" whatever spirit they want and make any changes they please.  If you don't like it, that's fine, as I say.  But you don't have - and nor do any of the rest of us - an entitlement to the franchise and the direction it takes.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

MrTijger wrote...

CRISIS1717 wrote...

Volourn wrote...

"and Mike Laidlaw, between the both of them they destroyed the spirit of Dragon Age."

What's funny about this is Gaider is one of the people RESPONSIBLE for the 'spirit' of Dragon Age. L0LZ

Yes because someone who creates something cannot possibly ruin their own work (George Lucas).

And that still makes it their own work and their right to do so, fanboys have no say. Thank god.

Yes thank god they didn't consult the fans of the game after Origins who would have said hell no to the concept of DA2 and we would have an Origins style sequel that everyone would be content with. 

Yes thank god Bioware can direct the story however they wan't so it goes straight into the toilet. This IP is going to die a death when sales drop off after each rushed release. 

Yes thank god an IP is abused like this.

Don't worry, be happy! Think about the Sun, how it lights our world up!

[ArmedChimp]

And here I was wondering how low the dragon age 2 forums could go.

[AkiKishi]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

Volourn wrote...

"and Mike Laidlaw, between the both of them they destroyed the spirit of Dragon Age."

What's funny about this is Gaider is one of the people RESPONSIBLE for the 'spirit' of Dragon Age. L0LZ

Yes because someone who creates something cannot possibly ruin their own work (George Lucas).

I just had the most disturbing South Park dejavu.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

ArmedChimp wrote...

And here I was wondering how low the dragon age 2 forums could go.

Hopefully it will only get better. That said, I think the Registered thread should be the default general discussion section from now on.

[Scarletyoshi]

create a ... sequel that everyone would be content with.

If they had the power to create miracles like that, I'd hope they'd be using it on curing cancer instead of making videogames. 

[Darth Executor]

Scarletyoshi wrote...

It's a shame that acknowlging the existence of gay people is interpreted as "pandering."

Acknowledging gays/women and creating fan service content made specifically for gays or women or straight men for that matter are not the same thing. One is creating a realistic world. The latter is pandering to boost sales. That you have to create an abominable strawman like that tells me more than I need to know about your integrity and the lengths to which you are willing to shamelessly lie to protect your fragile ego.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

Scarletyoshi wrote...

create a ... sequel that everyone would be content with.

If they had the power to create miracles like that, I'd hope they'd be using it on curing cancer instead of making videogames. 

or they could create the ultimate Product of Art. a Product only discussed in reverent hushed whispers, a truly holy grail of perfection.

[Killer3000ad]

David Gaider is fine, they should stop trying to chase the CoD/casual/mainstream non-existant fanbase.

[MrTijger]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

Yes thank god they didn't consult the fans of the game after Origins who would have said hell no to the concept of DA2 and we would have an Origins style sequel that everyone would be content with. 

Yes thank god Bioware can direct the story however they wan't so it goes straight into the toilet. This IP is going to die a death when sales drop off after each rushed release. 

Yes thank god an IP is abused like this.

They did, right here in this forum.

Your opinion. I enjoyed it and I suspect the the demise of DA is not on the horizon yet.

Yes, indeed, IP belongs to the owner, not to some moron who projects or invests too much of his/her emotions into someone else's game.

Tell you what, come up with your own IP and then you can invest whatever you want in it and steer it into whatever direction you want, good plan?

Modifié par MrTijger, 29 mars 2011 - 10:34 .

[Baaleos]

Darth Executor wrote...

http://www.petitions...ireDavidGaider/

As a homosexual playing Dragon Age 2, I've witnessed the worst
stereotype homosexual characters in this game. If you refused to make
your moves on a gay character then you are received rivalry points for
not wanting to be gay for the character.



This is completely wrong, homosexuals do not approach people and force
them to kiss us, the person that wrote this game should be fired for
stereotyping homosexuals in such a disrespectful way, as well as
creating the worst writing in characters, plot and everything else in
DA2.

I'm sure most people here are perfectly familiar with Mr. Gaider's passionate love for the gay community and how absurd this petition is. It does, however, deliver a bit of delicious irony in light of Mr. Gaider's rant about "privilege" in that male gamer thread. It would appear that no matter what Mr. Gaider does, someone will be pissed off about it, including people he was desperately trying to pander to. I warmly recommend that Mr. Gaider and his team simply stop trying to cater to people based on their genitals and/or genital preference and simply stick to making the best Dragon Age he can. There is only so much much marketing you can apply to game design before the end product becomes completely soulless. Am I wrong here?

edit: I forgot how poor reading comprehension and general awareness of the surrounding world is on these forums so I figured I should mention I did not create or sign or support the above petition.

Im gay and it sounds pretty accurate to me? - well.... a little bit...

I feel that any issues you have with the Romances in the game, are more a symptom of poor writing skill by the character designers and plot writers, than evidence of their opinions on the homosexual community.
In short, they screwed up, but I dont think they were targetting me, and saying that if I am Gay, I must have grown up in a Mage Tower where I had sex with bearded Mages. (Anders n Karl)

I can see what DA2 writers tried to do..
They tried to make a high impact scene, the sort of thing you see in Movies and stuff.
It works in Movies and stuff, because its NOT YOU whos doing the scene.
In Dragon Age 2, we assume the role of Hawke, and in a sense, the writers are forcing us down a path that we may find disagreeable.
Snog Anders, or Get Rivalry points...
Personally, I dont think Anders would be that childish to have a temper tantrum with me, if I knocked him back, he is after all, a fully grown adult.

Because its a game, the creators are kinda forced to try and write choices into the game that will cater to all players, in this sense, they somewhat failed, and by failing in the romance department, they have turned Manly Sarcastic Anders, into a wimpering woman. I fancied him since Awakening.... I want old anders back?!

[CRISIS1717]

Scarletyoshi wrote...

create a ... sequel that everyone would be content with.

If they had the power to create miracles like that, I'd hope they'd be using it on curing cancer instead of making videogames. 

Obviously not everyone would be content, I didn't think I'd need to spell it out for anyone,  but there would be much less discontent. Fans of Origins expected a similar sequel, instead they got something completely different. 

[suprhomre]

Haexpane wrote...

99% of online petitions are moronic

agree

[quickthorn]

From the petition page -
"It felt very odd that my male companions kept making passes at me, when I never found any interest or even flirted with them."

Er, when was this? Someone's got a rather overactive imagination. One situation crops up when Hawke must either flirt or use the heartbreak option on Anders. This happens with a female Hawke too. Fenris never flirts unless you have selected flirt options with him beforehand and they're rather obviously signposted by that convenient heart symbol. Anything else is in the petition writer's imagination.

[CRISIS1717]

MrTijger wrote...

CRISIS1717 wrote...

Yes thank god they didn't consult the fans of the game after Origins who would have said hell no to the concept of DA2 and we would have an Origins style sequel that everyone would be content with. 

Yes thank god Bioware can direct the story however they wan't so it goes straight into the toilet. This IP is going to die a death when sales drop off after each rushed release. 

Yes thank god an IP is abused like this.

They did, right here in this forum.

Your opinion. I enjoyed it and I suspect the the demise of DA is not on the horizon yet.

Yes, indeed, IP belongs to the owner, not to some moron who projects or invests too much of his/her emotions into someone else's game.

Tell you what, come up with your own IP and then you can invest whatever you want in it and steer it into whatever direction you want, good plan?

lol you act as if they are telling their own story like an indie developer would, they aren't, they are actually crafting a gameplay experience for customers. 

How about no? I can be negative all I want, about this game, it's an open forum for discussion. 

[MrTijger]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

lol you act as if they are telling their own story like an indie developer would, they aren't, they are actually crafting a gameplay experience for customers. 

How about no? I can be negative all I want, about this game, it's an open forum for discussion. 

They are telling their own story, Bioware came up with the Dragon Age verse, it does not exist anywhere else, its not an existing IP, there is no canon except what Bioware says there is. Duh, every game is a gameplay experience, whats your point?

As for your negativity, thats your, rather sad, problem.

[CRISIS1717]

MrTijger wrote...

CRISIS1717 wrote...

lol you act as if they are telling their own story like an indie developer would, they aren't, they are actually crafting a gameplay experience for customers. 

How about no? I can be negative all I want, about this game, it's an open forum for discussion. 

They are telling their own story, Bioware came up with the Dragon Age verse, it does not exist anywhere else, its not an existing IP, there is no canon except what Bioware says there is. Duh, every game is a gameplay experience, whats your point?

As for your negativity, thats your, rather sad, problem.

They are designing it for an audience, they don't have free reign over the IP like you think they do. 

It's not a problem at all, you don't seem to understand that my negative feedback is equal in weight to your feedback on this forum. 

Modifié par CRISIS1717, 29 mars 2011 - 10:47 .

[Harmless Crunch]

Honestly all I remember is Anders made one flirty comment with my male Hawke after they had been spending the last 20 hours killing bandits if your saying that that is stereotypical then I have lost faith in Humanity....

[Russalka]

Maybe the topic title is misleading people a little.

I think the person is not familiar with the concept of flirting. Why must I keep repeating this in threads? People flirt, regardless of sexuality and gender. People get hurt when rejected. Anders is a needy and sad person, rivalry is justified.

[Kithayri]

So, how come there is all this big problem with Anders hitting on / flirting with a Male Hawke just once and then getting upset when hes turned down (which is -very much- in character for the depressive little mage) and yet I have never seen a single person complain that Isabela invites you into her bed about 5 minutes after you meet her (male -or- female Hawke)?

*Yes there is no "turn down + rivalry" option but shes a character who is likely to not take rejection so poorly