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[KevShep]

XxDeonxX wrote...

An interesting theory, although humans aren't billions of years old like the reapers but maybe something along the lines of EVE's story could share elements with your theory and ME's story if your theory is true.

In Eve humans discovered space flight and then eventually came across a worm hole which lead to a very distant system / galaxy.. Worm holes in some science fiction can even transcend time. So maybe things went along with the current or a similar timeline, humans went through the worm hole and like in EVE the worm hole eventually and unexpectedly closed

But these humans when travelling through the worm hole across a massive distance also travelled across time to the early stages of the galexy.. There humans mastered technology and tried to intergrate themselves with a VI... and then your theory plays out.. I actually wouldn't mind if something like this happened, twould be cool

Well the ancient humans (or reapers) are not from earth at all. There from some unknown planet and we humans on earth are them recreated through evolution. The reapers are trying to bring back there original organic form, A big clue to this is shepards return from the dead(this is why devs went in that direction at the start of ME2) the power to reanimate or recreate a person lost or no longer living.  that explains the why the reapers use the galaxy as there personal evolutionary lab.

Modifié par KevShep, 06 juillet 2011 - 11:07 .

[steve7456]

KevShep wrote...

whywhywhywhy wrote...

 

As far as the Reaper's origin your ideas reminded me of a Race in the Mass effect books.  The alien A.I. race in a effort to save themselves from extinction uploaded the conscious minds of all of their people into this massive mothership's computers.  Eventually this race of people went before the counsel and were hidden away and tech was exchanged between the two. 

Something similiar happened to the Reapers, that's believable but I don't think it was ancient humans.  I agree that the 50k cycle has to be for some purpose, a purpose altered from whatever it was originally.  Maybe at some point they were after organic bodies and desred to be free of the ships, they are definately referred to as both machine and organic beings so their may be some truth to your theory. 

It's possible they searched for a compatible organic host body and were violently repelled an action that triggered the eradication process. Maybe something unique was lost and the process is a form of revenge.  They return to eliminate threats in their infancy and search for whatever they're missing.  The retreat back to darkspace to hide is a indicator, someone really screwed over the Reapers.  Otherwise why leave ?  What are they afraid of ?

Even dormant they have indoctrination, they had others act as sentries in the past but rather then defend they leave.

Either way the A.I. Ship I mentioned before HAS to play a role in ME3 otherwise the story will be lame, it's the sole race exempt from the confines of reaper tech development cycle.  They have been able to develop their technology along the lines they so choose, this is a unforeseen development and a costly one.  The quarian creation of the geth is the other unforeseen development, both have to play a huge role in ME3 for it to be logically sound.

I forgot about EDI...in my ship....being reaper tech. I wander if the alliance will get rid of her knowing that she is an AI? One of the things that makes me think that the reapers maybe human is (could be wrong) that cerberus are working for the reapers willingly (according to GI mag and E3 hinting that they may not be indoctrinated). If willing then they cant be pro human but as it turns out they are pro human so  why would a pro human group support a non human movment?...this is my educated guess based on that and other things you and I have said.

Cerberus might be helping the reapers because they think the reapers are going to win and if they serve the reapers humanity might surive in some form after the reapers are done.  The collectors are gone and the reapers might need new servents for the next time.  So in a way they could be saving/empowering humanity.

cheers

edit to correct my poor gramer

Modifié par steve7456, 06 juillet 2011 - 09:01 .

[KevShep]

steve7456 wrote...



Cerberus might be helping the reapers because they think the reapers are going to win and if they serve the reapers humanity might surive in some form after the reapers are done.  The collectors are gone the reapers might need new servents for next time.  So in a way they could be saving/empowering humanity.

cheers

By cerberus own philosophy they would never let humans become the victims of the reapers if the reapers themselves were not humans. There philosophy is that humans are the most dominant race in the galaxy and that they believe humans should rule over everybody else, humans are first and foremost and no other race comes before them. Its not just a matter of surviving for cerberus its a matter of surviving through dominance.

Modifié par KevShep, 06 juillet 2011 - 09:01 .

[Harbringer 2.0]

Theory about Cerberus: Jack Harper (aka the Illusive Man) was slightly indoctrinated, when he came in contact with a Reaper artifact, during the First Contact War.

Proof(?): His eyes shows the same sign as early indoctrination, example; Saren. This can mean that his habit of sending Shepard in danger(Collector ship), without a reasonable thought behind it, can support that he is effected by the Reapers. TA-DA

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[KevShep]

Harbringer 2.0 wrote...

Theory about Cerberus: Jack Harper (aka the Illusive Man) was slightly indoctrinated, when he came in contact with a Reaper artifact, during the First Contact War.

Proof(?): His eyes shows the same sign as early indoctrination, example; Saren. This can mean that his habit of sending Shepard in danger(Collector ship), without a reasonable thought behind it, can support that he is effected by the Reapers. TA-DA

Be sure to criticize this.

If the reapers are ancient humans then it might mean that since TIM was in contanct with reaper tech it might not have effected  him, the reapers wanted humans (because they are human) then it could be that the reapers did not indoctrinate TIM but insted upgraded him so he would not get indoctrinated.
 Also note that an indoctrinated person would not last long (few weeks or months) untill they die off, and since TIM is said to be indoctrinated then that means that he has been indoctrinated for a least 3 years or more (before ME1).

[NexusIsaac]

I build up with Harbringers concept here.
The faster and more controlled a person is by indoctrination, the faster they would become braindead.
The Illusive Man have stayed out of Reaper contact for at least 15 years. With this we can state that he is only slightly affected by the Reapers. So little that he won't be able to know it and able to resist it most of the time.

The Reapers attack and harvest once the "prey's" technology is advanced enough to be intergrated and/or used. Apparently the Reapers are some sort of parasites. The Mass Relay's is probably not even theirs.
The Reapers have come to a technological singularity. They can't develope any further by their self. They need other civilizations to develope new technology's but also need to struck down this "prey" civilizations easily and that the new technology can be easily intergrated into the Reaper's themselves. Therefore the scattering of the Mass Relays and the Citadel. [Theory on Reaper motives]

Modifié par NexusIsaac, 05 mars 2012 - 01:58 .