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[Augustei]

The Angry One wrote...

No.

[Kartikeya]

The Angry One wrote...

No.

I'm going to have to go with the Angry One on this one.

[Foolsfolly]

scyphozoa wrote...

Sun Li The Glorious Strategist - The Kind of Villain we need in DA3.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes! YES! YES! YES!

I can also see the fun in having a 'Mwu-hahah' villain, I mean who didn't love Darth Malak? 

But Sun Li THE GLORIOUS MOTHER****ING STRATEGIST!

[Kartikeya]

I loved KotOR as much as the next Bioware fan (maybe more, I played that game an embarrassingly large number of times), but Malak was honestly every Saturday Morning cartoon villain ever written. He just had a few more destroyed planets under his belt. He had a fun voice though, I'll give you that.

[GSSAGE7]

Kartikeya wrote...

I loved KotOR as much as the next Bioware fan (maybe more, I played that game an embarrassingly large number of times), but Malak was honestly every Saturday Morning cartoon villain ever written. He just had a few more destroyed planets under his belt. He had a fun voice though, I'll give you that.

Honestly, that's half the fun of these types of characters. Everyone loves to see them chew the scenery, and shout in all their hammy glory.

[Wolfva2]

I'm reminded of an old 'Cerebrus the Aardvark' comic where an ancient power rises; the evil mage sees his chance for power and tries to convince the power to side with him...
Mage: "Evil? Am I...EVIL! YES! I am EVIL INCARNATE! I steal from babies! I kick puppies! I once made fun of my mother!!!!! I <ZZZAPPPPP>" (pile of ashes where mage was standing)
Power: "Evil? Yes. But also incredibly boring. Next.

Evil for evil sake is boring. The most interesting characters are those who don't think they're evil. Loghain is a prime example, as others noted. Even Howe, who did what he did out of a feeling of Lesse Magistre and that he was a legend in his own mind.

The Joker was mentioned; when properly written the Joker is an awesome character. He is pure chaos. His one goal? Trying to get the ONE person in the world who he respects to understand the joke. And it frustrates him to no end that Batman keeps missing the punchline. He doesn't realize, I think, that Batman does understand the joke. He just doesn't find it funny. And what is the joke? Ask the Comedian, if he drops by.....

[Kartikeya]

GSSAGE7 wrote...

Kartikeya wrote...

I loved KotOR as much as the next Bioware fan (maybe more, I played that game an embarrassingly large number of times), but Malak was honestly every Saturday Morning cartoon villain ever written. He just had a few more destroyed planets under his belt. He had a fun voice though, I'll give you that.

Honestly, that's half the fun of these types of characters. Everyone loves to see them chew the scenery, and shout in all their hammy glory.

Sure! And that was the fun of Malak. But I object to the notion that he was a well written villain.

[GodWood]

Foolsfolly wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...
Sun Li The Glorious Strategist - The Kind of Villain we need in DA3.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes! YES! YES! YES!

I can also see the fun in having a 'Mwu-hahah' villain, I mean who didn't love Darth Malak? 

But Sun Li THE GLORIOUS MOTHER****ING STRATEGIST!

WHY SUN LI WHY!?

[Foolsfolly]

GSSAGE7 wrote...

Kartikeya wrote...

I loved KotOR as much as the next Bioware fan (maybe more, I played that game an embarrassingly large number of times), but Malak was honestly every Saturday Morning cartoon villain ever written. He just had a few more destroyed planets under his belt. He had a fun voice though, I'll give you that.

Honestly, that's half the fun of these types of characters. Everyone loves to see them chew the scenery, and shout in all their hammy glory.

That's like all of the reason why they're so enjoyable. That and it usually sounds like the voice actors are having a blast playing them.

[Hammer_Of_God]

Serpieri Nei wrote...

Fieryeel wrote...

We need a villain without redemming qualities or reasoning. We need a villain who's evil because he/she can be. We need a villain who eats children and baths in the blood of virgins or something similar, who's got some evil plan to conquer the entire world.

Archdemon fitted a little into this category, problem was that he was so detached from us...we only saw him duing Deep Roads, and final quest.

Loghain was nowhere near. He seemed an enormous ****, but in the end, he was really trying to protect Fereldan.

The Mother was close, but one couldn't blame her as she was practically insane, and who could blame her? Having developed sentience again after turning into a Broodmother.

Arishok, Orsino, Meredith all had their reasonings, and one could even sympathize with them.

We really need a villain whos the "Muahhahahha I am evil because I CAN BE!!! I will destroy your world just for the fun of it!" and whom we can see throughout the game, instead of only during two scenes.

There are complex bosses with deep compelling stories like those of BG2, and there are those simple but horrendously powerful bosses which really makes you wanna wring the life out of.

Is it me or did he just describe EA?

+10

[Paraxial]

Yeah, one-dimensional villains are so intriguing.

[sphinxess]

No!

Give us someone no one suspects - I support Leliana for evil boss!!!

[genocidal villain]

whenever I play videogames I don't see villains; I see antagonist, and they are not the same.

[TheBlackBaron]

I'd be down with it, but only if he's voiced by Tim Curry, and has a magnificent Goatee of Evil.

[Foolsfolly]

We already had Tim Curry doing a completely irredeemable evil character in this series. He was magnificent.

Perhaps he should play a child abducting demon in the form of a clown. Come on, that's one of his best roles! And he was a total evil 'muhahaha' villain.

[txgoldrush]

The only one dimesnional villian that was truly great was Kefka Palazzo because he fit FFVI like a glove.

Modifié par txgoldrush, 30 mars 2011 - 08:49 .

[TheBlackBaron]

Foolsfolly wrote...

We already had Tim Curry doing a completely irredeemable evil character in this series. He was magnificent.

True, true, but in my worldview you can never have enough irredemable complete monsters played and/or voiced by Tim Curry. 

Perhaps he should play a child abducting demon in the form of a clown. Come on, that's one of his best roles! And he was a total evil 'muhahaha' villain.

Heck, he's already played the Lord of Darkness in an 80's fantasy film, directed by Ridley Scott no less. That's just begging for him to voice the Archon of the Tevinter Imperium or whatever, he seems like the most promising candidate to engage in some scenery chewing evil. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 30 mars 2011 - 08:48 .

[txgoldrush]

Modifié par txgoldrush, 30 mars 2011 - 08:50 .

[Foolsfolly]

Tim Curry as the Archon of the Tevinter Imperium?

I don't think so.

That should belong to Jonathan "Xanatos" Frakes; who also should have been the Shadow Broker!

[TheBlackBaron]

Foolsfolly wrote...

Tim Curry as the Archon of the Tevinter Imperium?

I don't think so.

That should belong to Jonathan "Xanatos" Frakes; who also should have been the Shadow Broker!

...I'm not sure I can argue with this. 

[txgoldrush]

How about corrupted Justice? Either through Anders or freed from him. He would make a great anatgonist.

Modifié par txgoldrush, 30 mars 2011 - 09:10 .

[Foolsfolly]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Foolsfolly wrote...

Tim Curry as the Archon of the Tevinter Imperium?

I don't think so.

That should belong to Jonathan "Xanatos" Frakes; who also should have been the Shadow Broker!

...I'm not sure I can argue with this. 

Halt! A challenger appears: Alan Rickman.

But Frakes as the Shadow Broker makes perfect sense. Not saying Steve Blum didn't do a good job but....Frakes as the Shadow Broker, come on! 

[TheBlackBaron]

Foolsfolly wrote...

Halt! A challenger appears: Alan Rickman.

But Frakes as the Shadow Broker makes perfect sense. Not saying Steve Blum didn't do a good job but....Frakes as the Shadow Broker, come on! 

I don't see Alan Rickman as the Archon. More likely, he'd be part of the Lucrosian magi fraternity in the Circles, pretending to go along with all these mage revolts but he's really just out to make off with the Chantry's treasury. 

[b0ksah]

Well and to answer the question if I like an über evil enemy boss thingie ...

NOT ...

Why? So you feel like it was the right thing to kill him/her/it ... without questioning!

Nah not gonna happen in a Dragon Age game ... Im sure :devil:or mostly

Modifié par b0ksah, 30 mars 2011 - 09:19 .

[Foolsfolly]

Also a good thing.