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[Faivon]

How come he's still alive? I mean, I import save data from DA Origins where I picked Prince Bhelen and he ordered Lord Harrowmont to be executed so he should be dead by now.

[Foolsfolly]

It's not Lord Harrowmont. It's the last of the Harrowmont line and he's being chased by Bhelen's men.

You save his life, help him out, and he promises to help you in the future....to...do....something. I don't think that ever pays off.

[Knightly_BW]

Or you can just kill him and his guards instead of running docks from one end to other. Also got paid for doing it.

[Katya Nadanova]

Foolsfolly wrote...

It's not Lord Harrowmont. It's the last of the Harrowmont line and he's being chased by Bhelen's men.

You save his life, help him out, and he promises to help you in the future....to...do....something. I don't think that ever pays off.

I got a letter from him later in the story and some gold.

[supakillaii]

Few coins for a life, no thanks, I'll take his assistance in The Third Game instead.

[Knightly_BW]

supakillaii wrote...

Few coins for a life, no thanks, I'll take his assistance in The Third Game instead.

Other than assistance thing I think you got it a bit wrong, 3 dead guy vs several waves of death guys.

I never liked Harrowmont anyways, King Bhelen (he can be worthless SOB but still he is way much better leader than Harrowmont) wants him dead? Who am I to refuse mighty King of Orzamar.

[Faivon]

Ah, that makes sense. Better be careful on my decisions, it may be carried to the third game.

[EmperorSahlertz]

You also get some gloves in the letter he sends you, after having assited him.

[Icy Magebane]

I kill him every time. There are too few opportunities to assassinate people to pass on it. Besides, even if Hawke doesn't know about the Warden's involvement in Orzamaar politics, I'd rather get rid of any lingering traces of the Harrowmonts. I made Behlen king for a reason, and I don't need this upstart raising rebellions later on. But yeah... non-metagaming answer: Hawke needed the coin.

[EmperorSahlertz]

He is a surfacer, what kind of rebellion would he ever be able to make?

[Jester12]

If it even makes a difference.. He wouldn't have much of a resistance movement because ya... he lives on the surface. Although you get more of a reward if you help rather then kill him.

[Katilina]

Question- what act does this happen in? I know in Act 1 you can run into the dalish if you let them live; but I never got anything regarding Harrowmont/Bhelen stuff.

[Trophonius]

Katilina wrote...

Question- what act does this happen in? I know in Act 1 you can run into the dalish if you let them live; but I never got anything regarding Harrowmont/Bhelen stuff.

It happens in Act 1 if you made Bhelen king or used one of the presets (Martyr?). There should be a guy named Lord Renvil Harrowmont standing somewhere in the Docks who will ask you to dispose of the Carta assassins after him.

Modifié par Trophonius, 30 mars 2011 - 03:26 .

[Katilina]

Trophonius wrote...

Katilina wrote...

Question- what act does this happen in? I know in Act 1 you can run into the dalish if you let them live; but I never got anything regarding Harrowmont/Bhelen stuff.

It happens in Act 1 if you made Bhelen king or used one of the presets (Martyr?). There should be a guy named Lord Renvil Harrowmont standing somewhere in the Docks who will ask you to dispose of the Carta assassins after him.

Ahhh that would be my issue, didnt search the docks well enough apparently. Thanks.

[Katilina]

I did make Harrowmont king in my origins save- however; do you still get this just with Bhelen coming to you, or is it Harrowmont only?

[Dean_the_Young]

I'd like to know as well: what is the choose-Harrowmont alternative quest?

[KnightofPhoenix]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

He is a surfacer, what kind of rebellion would he ever be able to make?

He doesn't have to. Some within Orzammar can act in his name. Just like some nobles act in Alistair's name even when exiled.

[Patriciachr34]

I only got this quest when i made Behlen king. Did not get anything with Harrowmont.

[Ser Mix-a-lot]

I didn't find him either in my import with Harrowmont as king.

[Forst1999]

Well, there is no alternative quest when Harrowmont is king. You know, he might not be a great king, but he doesn't try to kill all relatives of his former rival. I think it is a little reminder, the the progressive king Bhelen comes with a price.

[Katilina]

Forst1999 wrote...

Well, there is no alternative quest when Harrowmont is king. You know, he might not be a great king, but he doesn't try to kill all relatives of his former rival. I think it is a little reminder, the the progressive king Bhelen comes with a price.

Well glad I apparently chose the right path back in the day then. Bhelen, while sounding like he would have opened up Orzammar to the 'surfacers', always struck me as bad. Fecked over his family just to be the one to get the crown. Given I played a human noble so I couldnt really stand the idea of destroying your own family..

[PantheraOnca]

Bhelen is a dick, but the only way to prevent dwarven extinction in my opinion was to get more surface involvement with orzimaar, which wouldn't happen with harrowmont, so i chose bhelen.

[LobselVith8]

BristowJ wrote...

Foolsfolly wrote...

It's not Lord Harrowmont. It's the last of the Harrowmont line and he's being chased by Bhelen's men.

You save his life, help him out, and he promises to help you in the future....to...do....something. I don't think that ever pays off.

I got a letter from him later in the story and some gold.

I received a letter from Lord Renvil Harrowmont after finishing "Last of His Line" too. It's one of the first quests that I did in Kirkwall. He mentions that the name "Hawke" will be remembered when I helped him with the carta, since he's heading to Rivain (and finally to Kal Sharok).

Forst1999 wrote...

Well, there is no alternative quest when Harrowmont is king. You know, he might not be a great king, but he doesn't try to kill all relatives of his former rival. I think it is a little reminder, the the progressive king Bhelen comes with a price.

I'm surprised you think Harrowmont is a better ruler than Bhelen. As King, Harrowmont is willing to murder the entire population of Dust Town if he has access to golems, and if he doesn't, he keeps the "traditions" intact that prevent the casteless from gaining freedoms. Bhelen's reforms are the only means by which the casteless will ever get any measure of rights in the centuries of dwarven history.

Katilina wrote...

Well glad I apparently chose the right path back in the day then. Bhelen, while sounding like he would have opened up Orzammar to the 'surfacers', always struck me as bad. Fecked over his family just to be the one to get the crown. Given I played a human noble so I couldnt really stand the idea of destroying your own family..

As opposed to murdering an entire district of dwarves because they protested their lack of rights, like Harrowmont does with his golem army?

Modifié par LobselVith8, 31 mars 2011 - 02:41 .

[mosdefinition]

Faivon wrote...

Ah, that makes sense. Better be careful on my decisions, it may be carried to the third game.

with the way things carried over from the first game i doubt it will have that big of an impact outside of a 3 minute encounter

[MKDAWUSS]

I find it interesting that he was being pursued while Harrowmont's cousin (the Proving duelist) was said to have been spared from Bhelen's punishment.

My Hawke decided to help him out. Hey, she ain't the Bhelen-supporting Hero of Ferelden.

Modifié par MKDAWUSS, 31 mars 2011 - 03:14 .