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[blacqout]

Supersomething wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Has anyone else noticed that on the spine of their Mass Effect 2 case, the EA logo is inside a circle with the ME swooshy thing? Now if you go and look at Dragon Age, it's inside a blood drago. If you happen to own a Tiger Woods game, you'll see that it's inside a golf ball.

A lot of posters on this forum like to suggest that EA are somehow a bad thing for BioWare's creativity, but that is really not the case. No other publisher puts as much effort into, or is as creative with, their logo on the game box. This really does send a strong message to me -- that EA really care about and respect the developers artistic vision.

Additionally, i keep my games on a shelf in a cupboard, and when i browse them, the Mass Effect spine really sticks out because of this. So the next time you want to complain about EA, maybe weigh up the positives against the negatives before doing so.

If anyone is going to publish for BioWare, i'm glad it's Electronic Arts.

Well since you posted this same statement in two different sections of the ME forums I am unsure as to whether or not you're trolling or just one of those rare EA fans I heard about.

Either way, you think that a company like BioWare having EA backing them is a positive thing because EA knows how to make aesthetically pleasing box art.  All box art will do is appeal to the certain demographic of people who just look for the coolest box art of a game and automatically assume it has to be great because said box art is so appealing.  Believe it or not there is a psychological aspect to the marketing and production of games.

I for one have never cared for EA.  The majortiy of the games that they get their claws on tend to be sub par, or just down right horrible. 

I mentioned this point in somebodies review of Arrival. Out of respect for the poster of that discussion, i decided to create my own thread specifically for my point, especially as it is such a salient one.

You're still not quite understanding me. Yes. The way that EA alter their logo to fit the box art is visually pleasing, but there is so much more to it than that. They are the only publisher to do this, and it shows a genuine respect for the developers artistic vision.

They are pretty much defiling their own image for the sake of Mass Effect. EA are the best company out there to publish BioWare's work.

[Grymgris]

Never been a fan of EA, but i do love them for bringing me Dragon Age though, before they bought Bioware Dragon Age was meant to be exlusive for PC, witch of course was a big no no for EA, so i got the game for my Xbox 360, and anything that brings me more Bioware gets a big plus on my goodwill account ^^

[MissFish]

They do it so people talk about them, exactly like this thread. The developers probably switch the logo out themselves. EA's to busy taking money baths.

[Relix28]

blacqout wrote...

You're still not quite understanding me. Yes. The way that EA alter their logo to fit the box art is visually pleasing, but there is so much more to it than that. They are the only publisher to do this, and it shows a genuine respect for the developers artistic vision.

They are pretty much defiling their own image for the sake of Mass Effect. EA are the best company out there to publish BioWare's work.

What facts do you have to support this supposed theory of yours? 

[blacqout]

Relix28 wrote...

blacqout wrote...

You're still not quite understanding me. Yes. The way that EA alter their logo to fit the box art is visually pleasing, but there is so much more to it than that. They are the only publisher to do this, and it shows a genuine respect for the developers artistic vision.

They are pretty much defiling their own image for the sake of Mass Effect. EA are the best company out there to publish BioWare's work.

What facts do you have to support this supposed theory of yours? 

How many companies can you name that alter their logo for specific products? Don't limit this to video games... think about cars, drinks, shops, clothes manufacturers... nobody does it. And the reason nobody does it is because a company logo should be instantly recognisable.

EA sacrifice this instant recognition to make BioWare's cover art look cooler.

Modifié par blacqout, 30 mars 2011 - 03:51 .

[Relix28]

blacqout wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

blacqout wrote...

You're still not quite understanding me. Yes. The way that EA alter their logo to fit the box art is visually pleasing, but there is so much more to it than that. They are the only publisher to do this, and it shows a genuine respect for the developers artistic vision.

They are pretty much defiling their own image for the sake of Mass Effect. EA are the best company out there to publish BioWare's work.

What facts do you have to support this supposed theory of yours? 

How many companies can you name that alter their logo for specific products? Don't limit this to video games... think about cars, drinks, shops, clothes manufacturers... nobody does it. And the reason nobody does it is because a company logo should be instantly recognisable.

EA sacrifice this instant recognition to make BioWare's cover art look cooler.

Those are assumptions, not facts. And even if EA makes fancy logos to make their covers look cooler, it doesn't prove anything. If EA's marketing department is being creative with the logos, it doesn't mean that the company is in fact supporting developers creativity because of that.
This theory of yours is too big of stretch for anyone to take you seriously. That is also why I called you a troll, and no offense, I still think you are trolling. That is also why I this is my last post in this thread.

[Vyse_Fina]

Dude, every single texture in the games you named takes more effort to make than these slightly altered EA logos. The logos aren't even creative. They just have to look at the games and take some characteristic of the logo or sport or whatever and put it into their own logo. That's it.

Modifié par Vyse_Fina, 30 mars 2011 - 04:49 .

[blacqout]

Relix28 wrote...

Those are assumptions, not facts. And even if EA makes fancy logos to make their covers look cooler, it doesn't prove anything. If EA's marketing department is being creative with the logos, it doesn't mean that the company is in fact supporting developers creativity because of that.
This theory of yours is too big of stretch for anyone to take you seriously. That is also why I called you a troll, and no offense, I still think you are trolling. That is also why I this is my last post in this thread.

No, they are facts. When crafting a logo, brand recognition is a massive factor. EA make theirs less recognisable, and as a result the covers for Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 are more visually appealing.

Those are not assumptions; those are facts.

When i say that EA sacrifice instant recognisability for the sake of BioWare's game artwork, it is a fact.

If you can't discuss the topic without resorting to petty name calling, then you should definitely leave.

Modifié par blacqout, 30 mars 2011 - 05:02 .

[Aargh12]

blacqout wrote...
No, they are facts. When crafting a logo, brand recognition is a massive factor. EA make theirs less recognisable, and as a result the covers for Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 are more visually appealing.

Those are not assumptions; those are facts.

When i say that EA sacrifice instant recognisability for the sake of BioWare's game artwork, it is a fact. 

Recognisability? It's just two letters, nothing more. You're overestimating it. Plus, it's not EA brand that you should notice - it's Bioware's. They're making the game, not EA.
Changing logo doesn't say whether the company really cares for a game or not.  If that was true, every company (Rockstar or Blizard for example) would change their logo every game they make. They don't do that but their games are still good. I know they're devs - but saying that Activision doesn't care for Call of Duty is just funny. They care for it. A lot.
It's only an assumption whether EA cares or not - and, based on how DA2 looks (rushed), EA doesn't care for the quality of the product.
I'll give you a fact. Activision is considered as the Evil Empire of gaming, but the majority of gamers don't give a damn about it. CoD sells in millions and it's still good FPS. How's that possible?

Modifié par Aargh12, 30 mars 2011 - 06:02 .

[2kgnsiika]

Successful troll is successful

8/10

[blacqout]

Aargh12 wrote...

blacqout wrote...
No, they are facts. When crafting a logo, brand recognition is a massive factor. EA make theirs less recognisable, and as a result the covers for Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 are more visually appealing.

Those are not assumptions; those are facts.

When i say that EA sacrifice instant recognisability for the sake of BioWare's game artwork, it is a fact. 

Recognisability? It's just two letters, nothing more. You're overestimating it. Plus, it's not EA brand that you should notice - it's Bioware's. They're making the game, not EA.
Changing logo doesn't say whether the company really cares for a game or not.  If that was true, every company (Rockstar or Blizard for example) would change their logo every game they make. They don't do that but their games are still good. I know they're devs - but saying that Activision doesn't care for Call of Duty is just funny. They care for it. A lot.
It's only an assumption whether EA cares or not - and, based on how DA2 looks (rushed), EA doesn't care for the quality of the product.
I'll give you a fact. Activision is considered as the Evil Empire of gaming, but the majority of gamers don't give a damn about it. CoD sells in millions and it's still good FPS. How's that possible?

Most logos have no letters and simplicity doesn't really come into it; if something is different then it looses its recognisability.

You will not find a bigger fan of Call of Duty than i, but while Activision love their cash cow, their treatment of the old Infinity Ward demonstrates that they don't have quite the same respect for the developers working under them.

When EA change their company image to fit Mass Effect, they are showing BioWare infinitely more respect.

[baryonic member]

I agree, if all the haters would just read this thread, they would take everything back and realise their folly. EA is the best thing to happen to the gaming industry since motion controll.

Modifié par baryonic member, 30 mars 2011 - 07:39 .

[grifter024]

Last I remember "EA," DIDNT HAVE A LOGO. The only thing "EA," has is the letters "EA," in capitols. Then again you can say that they had the whole "It's in the game," But after awhile they got rid of that due to it not working for other games but again I dont remember a logo.

PS: I dont see the "Logo," You are speaking of that is aesthetically pleasing here not to mention the guys that MADE the game have their logo SMALLER then someone that never even worked on the game. I guess the little swipe makes all the difference hahaha.

Troll is burned.

Modifié par grifter024, 30 mars 2011 - 07:56 .

[blacqout]

grifter024 wrote...

Last I remember "EA," DIDNT HAVE A LOGO. The only thing "EA," has is the letters "EA," in capitols. Then again you can say that they had the whole "It's in the game," But after awhile they got rid of that due to it not working for other games but again I dont remember a logo.

PS: I dont see the "Logo," You are speaking of that is aesthetically pleasing here not to mention the guys that MADE the game have their logo SMALLER then someone that never even worked on the game. I guess the little swipe makes all the difference hahaha.

Troll is burned.

Bottom right corner of the ME2 cases.
 
You see that EA circle with the Mass Effect swooshy thing. That's a logo.

Idiot is burned.

Modifié par blacqout, 30 mars 2011 - 08:00 .

[shinobi602]

blacqout wrote...
A lot of posters on this forum like to suggest that EA are somehow a bad thing for BioWare's creativity, but that is really not the case. No other publisher puts as much effort into, or is as creative with, their logo on the game box. This really does send a strong message to me -- that EA really care about and respect the developers artistic vision.
 

Really? From a damn logo?

[blacqout]

shinobi602 wrote...

blacqout wrote...
A lot of posters on this forum like to suggest that EA are somehow a bad thing for BioWare's creativity, but that is really not the case. No other publisher puts as much effort into, or is as creative with, their logo on the game box. This really does send a strong message to me -- that EA really care about and respect the developers artistic vision.
 

Really? From a damn logo?

For all intents and purposes, that logo is EA. They don't need to alter their image to fit in with the Mass Effect artwork, but they do.

Modifié par blacqout, 30 mars 2011 - 08:13 .

[shinobi602]

blacqout wrote...

For all intents and purposes, that logo is EA. They don't need to alter their image to fit in with the Mass Effect artwork, but they do.

Yes, because that takes so much effort. What a back breaking undertaking!

It's a circle with a line from the ME title, such respect for the art! I can see it now.

Modifié par shinobi602, 30 mars 2011 - 08:15 .

[blacqout]

shinobi602 wrote...

blacqout wrote...

For all intents and purposes, that logo is EA. They don't need to alter their image to fit in with the Mass Effect artwork, but they do.

Yes, because that takes so much effort. What a back breaking undertaking!

The effort isn't the point. The point is that they're willing to jeopardise their brand recognition for the sake of protecting the artistic integrity of BioWare's product.

As previously mentioned, no other company, gaming-related or otherwise, alters its logo for separate products. The Pepsi logo is the same on all varieties of the drink. The Mercedes logo is the same on each car.

[Ty2011]

blacqout wrote...
Bottom right corner of the ME2 cases.
 
You see that EA circle with the Mass Effect swooshy thing. That's a logo.

Idiot is burned.

THE SWOOSHY THING IN THE EA LOGO MADE MASS EFFECT A BETTER GAME. IT'S TOO BAD NOT ALL PUBLISHERS PUT SWOOSHY THINGS IN THEIR LOGOS.  EA = GODS. 

[TelexFerra]

Your satire makes me giggle.

[xSTONEYx187x]

Why Microsoft never purchased BioWare is beyond me. They are in desperate need for First Party Developers and they had a great relationship with them, dating back to the original Xbox.

[Babli]

This logo is my favourite

[Elvis_Mazur]

Well, I will just throw here that artistic or inspired logos doesn't mean that their policies satisfy me.

They rushed DA2, and because of that we got repetitive environments. I'm just hoping they won't do the same with ME3.

[Praetor Knight]

I'm not sure what to make of the OP, but there is ZeniMax Media.

[blacqout]

Ty2011 wrote...

blacqout wrote...
Bottom right corner of the ME2 cases.
 
You see that EA circle with the Mass Effect swooshy thing. That's a logo.

Idiot is burned.

THE SWOOSHY THING IN THE EA LOGO MADE MASS EFFECT A BETTER GAME. IT'S TOO BAD NOT ALL PUBLISHERS PUT SWOOSHY THINGS IN THEIR LOGOS.  EA = GODS. 

That's not what i'm saying at all.

No offense, but you should learn to read before branding other users as "trolls".