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[blacqout]

Wikipedia is not an infallible font of wisdom, as i'm sure you all know. I wouldn't put too much stock on metacritic ratings either. They gave Treyarch's masterpiece, Quantum of Solace, something lie a 60%, which is frankly preposterous.

And there are a whole lot of other variables to take into account. Such as the ever changing demographics of gamers. EA have evolved with the market, and cater to all of them, and the games that some demographics love, simply don't make for spectacular titles in the eyes of more traditional gamers.

Typically, the AAA titles EA publish are of exceptional quality. That's a much better fairer to judge them than on their whole catalogue.

Modifié par blacqout, 31 mars 2011 - 05:41 .

[Relix28]

OMG, blacquot you are now officialy the biggest UBER TROLL on these boards. Congratulations.

[CroGamer002]

Relix28 wrote...

OMG, blacquot you are now officialy the biggest UBER TROLL on these boards. Congratulations.

That would be Greybox_Inception.


Also how is he a troll?
For liking EA?

Modifié par Mesina2, 31 mars 2011 - 06:26 .

[SalsaDMA]

Mesina2 wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

OMG, blacquot you are now officialy the biggest UBER TROLL on these boards. Congratulations.

That would be Greybox_Inception.


Also how is he a troll?
For liking EA?

Yeah, I think G.I. Joe still takes the price

[Maias227]

Well I honestly don't have any general opinion about E.A. They are publisher and they have quite likely increased both the means and the secruity available to Bioware so in this specific instance I don't really see any reason to dislike them for that.

[JKoopman]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Electronic Arts is cool. I don't understand why some blame DA2 on EA when they are just PUBLISHERS, not DEVELOPERS like BIOWARE.

The PUBLISHER sets the budget, sets the schedule, and has a disturbing amount of influence over what features are approved or denied for a game and in what direction development goes.  The publisher is the landlord to the developer's tennant. They say "Jump!" and the developer says "How high?" or else the developer loses funding (and if they're owned by the publisher, as BioWare is as of 2007, they can even be shut down).

It would not surprise me in the least to learn that much of the controvertial changes made to ME2 were a result of EA's influence and pressuring.

Mesina2 wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

OMG,
blacquot you are now officialy the biggest UBER TROLL on these boards. Congratulations.

That would be Greybox_Inception.


Also
how is he a troll?
For liking EA?

You know how we know he's a troll? Because his whole argument was that EA is a great publisher simply because they alter their logo for each "AAA" game release and he still rabidly defends EA even after it's been shown that EA's "logo" never actually changes; an observation to which he never even replied. His position is literally baseless and yet he still dismisses every piece of evidence presented to the contrary as being irrelevant.

Modifié par JKoopman, 31 mars 2011 - 06:54 .

[CroGamer002]

^So because you don't agree with him he's a troll?
Riiight...


I think you should check out definition of troll since you clearly have no clue what it means.

[Jaryd theBlackDragon]

blacqout wrote...

Typically, the AAA titles EA publish are of exceptional quality. That's a much better fairer to judge them than on their whole catalogue.

True, they are very polished and of good technical quality (usually anyway). They are also very generic, don't expect innovation in an EA title.

[blacqout]

I'm sorry for not responding to you, but it's quite sad that it appears to have hurt your feelings to the point where you deem it acceptable to throw insulting and derogatory terms around, such as troll.

If you can't be civil, JKoopman, i would like for you to leave.

As far as your comment on the EA logo goes... The logo has traditionally included a circle on every game they have published in the past few years. That only the EA appears on navigation bar towards the bottom of their webpage is hardly worth noticing, especially as the logo at the top of the page, includes the circle.

Additionally, if you really don't see how incorporating various different graphics into their logo for each release affects their recognisability, then i'm going to have to suggest that it is more likely that you are troll.

Either way, you're not especially pleasant, so don't feel as though you need to engage me again. At least not until you can come up with a more salient point.

Modifié par blacqout, 31 mars 2011 - 07:13 .

[blacqout]

Mesina2 wrote...

^So because you don't agree with him he's a troll?
Riiight...


I think you should check out definition of troll since you clearly have no clue what it means.

It's standard behaviour on this forum, i have noticed. I was called a troll by others simply for stating that i prefer ME2's iconic approach to squad attires and don't believe full body armour to be necessary.

Intellectual dwarfs often have to resort to branding people they disagree with as trolls, especially when they can't articulate a valid argument against them.

[JKoopman]

Mesina2 wrote...

^So because you don't agree with him he's a troll?
Riiight...


I think you should check out definition of troll since you clearly have no clue what it means.

I didn't say anything about agreeing or disagreeing with him. He posted a controvertial topic with an argument that basically amounted to "2 + 2 = 5" and, when it was pointed out that 2 + 2 in fact does not equal 5, he refused to acknowledge it and continues to defend his original (now baseless) position by calling it "his opinion" while attempting to tell other people that their opinions are "mistaken" and dismissing evidence that others present as being irrelevant (like actual articles taken from Wikipedia via GameSpot and Arstechnica pointing out a downward trend among EA's releases over the last 6-8 years).

That makes him a troll.

There's also the fact that, judging by his signature, he has an alternate account by the name of Val Seleznyov that has previously trolled the hell out of the squadmate armor thread, created such gems as "Can dressing as your in-game character increase your in-game performance?" where he states that dressing up in a **** uniform improves his game performance, and who ofttimes inexplicably pretends to be russian and speak broken english.

But I guess I'm just an "intellectual dwarf" who "can't articulate a valid argument."

Modifié par JKoopman, 31 mars 2011 - 07:42 .

[blacqout]

Jaryd theBlackDragon wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Typically, the AAA titles EA publish are of exceptional quality. That's a much better fairer to judge them than on their whole catalogue.

True, they are very polished and of good technical quality (usually anyway). They are also very generic, don't expect innovation in an EA title.

If that's how you feel, i suggest you try the EA sports game on xbox kinect.

[blacqout]

JKoopman wrote...

There's also the fact that, judging by his signature, he has an alternate account by the name of Val Seleznyov that has previously trolled the hell out of the squadmate armor thread, created such gems as "Can dressing as your in-game character increase your in-game performance?" where he states that dressing up in a **** uniform improves his game performance, and who ofttimes inexplicably pretends to be russian and speak broken english.

You are entering libel territory now.

Yes, i have a BioWare account with the name Val Seleznyov. The reason being i didn't like the name i chose for this one. I only returned to this profile because it is linked to my EA account, and i accidentally registered some promotional codes under my other account that i in turn could not use.

And i am Russian, i'm not sure where you get this "pretends" from. My English however, is borderline perfect. You'll have to provide an example of me speaking in "broken English"... however i'm fairly certain you wont find one, as you have now taken to flat-out lying. Very classy.

And yes... my thinking that the iconic approach to squad attires is better than dull body armour clearly makes me a troll. Anybody that disagrees with you is surely only pretending to hold such an opinion in some weird little attempt to hurt your little feelings.

That is not the way of thinking of a healthy human mind.

Modifié par blacqout, 31 mars 2011 - 07:49 .

[JKoopman]

Nice try, troll. But I'm not rising to your bait.

[blacqout]

JKoopman wrote...

Nice try, troll. But I'm not rising to your bait.

Of course you're not. You're just going to make baseless, unsubstantiated claims that tarnish my character, and then disappear.

You're like a Collector. Hit and run... like cowards.

It's highly amusing that you would call me a troll when you are the only poster in this thread making personal attacks.

[Gatt9]

blacqout wrote...

Wikipedia is not an infallible font of wisdom, as i'm sure you all know. I wouldn't put too much stock on metacritic ratings either. They gave Treyarch's masterpiece, Quantum of Solace, something lie a 60%, which is frankly preposterous.

And there are a whole lot of other variables to take into account. Such as the ever changing demographics of gamers. EA have evolved with the market, and cater to all of them, and the games that some demographics love, simply don't make for spectacular titles in the eyes of more traditional gamers.

Typically, the AAA titles EA publish are of exceptional quality. That's a much better fairer to judge them than on their whole catalogue.

1.  The average gamer is >35 years old,  in fact,  the video gaming market has existed for only about 30 years.  The demographic who were young when video games were created are still alive and well today.

2.  EA has not evolved with the market.  EA has down quite the opposite.  They release the same couple of games over and over and over and over.  Occasionally they accidently have a hit title which they then run into the ground as quickly as possible by fast cheap sequels with less and less of what made the original popular.

3.  EA has been severely mismanaged for years.  They ceased to be relevant over a decade ago.  Truth is,  the only reason EA still exists today is because of the NFL Monopoly.  Outside of that,  they've pretty much got nothing. 
4.  EA doesn't cater to anyone,  they release endless sequels of a couple games and fail to bring anything new to the market. 

5.  The "Traditional" gamers are the biggest demographic,  as I recognize you're using the word as a synonym for "Old".  I hate to have to tell you this,  but teenagers haven't been the biggest demographic for around 15 years now.  Teenagers have no income of note,  and are more likely to have active social lives than spend time gaming.  I'm sorry,  I know alot of people have a hard time with this,  but Teenagers aren't what drives gaming and attempting to cater to them is folly.

6.  EA doesn't make AAA titles.  They make rapid yearly sequels to accidental hits.  Halo is AAA,  Diablo/Starcraft are AAA,  Grand Turismo is AAA,  Metal Gear is AAA.  NFL,  The Sims,  and an occasional crappy Command & Conquer are not AAA.

Modifié par Gatt9, 31 mars 2011 - 08:00 .

[JKoopman]

blacqout wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

Nice try, troll. But I'm not rising to your bait.

Of course you're not. You're just going to make baseless, unsubstantiated claims that tarnish my character, and then disappear.

You're like a Collector. Hit and run... like cowards.

It's highly amusing that you would call me a troll when you are the only poster in this thread making personal attacks.

I'm personally attacking you by linking to your threads and referrencing your posting history?

It's not defamation of character if it's true.

Modifié par JKoopman, 31 mars 2011 - 08:01 .

[blacqout]

JKoopman wrote...

blacqout wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

Nice try, troll. But I'm not rising to your bait.

Of course you're not. You're just going to make baseless, unsubstantiated claims that tarnish my character, and then disappear.

You're like a Collector. Hit and run... like cowards.

It's highly amusing that you would call me a troll when you are the only poster in this thread making personal attacks.

I'm personally attacking you by linking to your threads?

When you state that i "inexplicibly pretend to be Russian and speak in broken English", yes. Especially when you offer zero evidence in support of the claim. What if i was to say that you only pretend to be American? That would be pretty damn insulting, i should think.

And you can deny it all you like, but the term "troll" is a derogatory one, and applying it to anyone is also an insult.

The fact that you are so quick to launch into petty, vile outbursts, whearas i am always extremely mild-mannered, speaks for itself.

To the objective observer, if one of us appears to be a "troll", it sure isn't me.

[CroGamer002]

JKoopman wrote...

blacqout wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

Nice try, troll. But I'm not rising to your bait.

Of course you're not. You're just going to make baseless, unsubstantiated claims that tarnish my character, and then disappear.

You're like a Collector. Hit and run... like cowards.

It's highly amusing that you would call me a troll when you are the only poster in this thread making personal attacks.

I'm personally attacking you by linking to your threads and referrencing your posting history? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]

It's not defamation of character if it's true.

What about part you keep claiming he's a troll for no good reason?

blacqout wrote...

When you state that i "inexplicibly
pretend to be Russian and speak in broken English", yes. Especially when
you offer zero evidence in support of the claim. What if i was to say
that you only pretend to be American? That would be pretty damn
insulting, i should think.

And for that too.

Modifié par Mesina2, 31 mars 2011 - 08:06 .

[Gatt9]

blacqout wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

There's also the fact that, judging by his signature, he has an alternate account by the name of Val Seleznyov that has previously trolled the hell out of the squadmate armor thread, created such gems as "Can dressing as your in-game character increase your in-game performance?" where he states that dressing up in a **** uniform improves his game performance, and who ofttimes inexplicably pretends to be russian and speak broken english.

You are entering libel territory now.

Yes, i have a BioWare account with the name Val Seleznyov. The reason being i didn't like the name i chose for this one. I only returned to this profile because it is linked to my EA account, and i accidentally registered some promotional codes under my other account that i in turn could not use.

And i am Russian, i'm not sure where you get this "pretends" from. My English however, is borderline perfect. You'll have to provide an example of me speaking in "broken English"... however i'm fairly certain you wont find one, as you have now taken to flat-out lying. Very classy.

And yes... my thinking that the iconic approach to squad attires is better than dull body armour clearly makes me a troll. Anybody that disagrees with you is surely only pretending to hold such an opinion in some weird little attempt to hurt your little feelings.

That is not the way of thinking of a healthy human mind.

I find it very interesting that a Russian would attempt to reference an American law in order to divert attention to his behavior. 

I'm afraid I've gotta go with Shennagins.

Btw,  you really may want to avoid referencing healthy human minds,  generally speaking,  dressing up as your in-game video game character to play a video game alone would be regarded as a distinct sign of a dissociative disorder.

Modifié par Gatt9, 31 mars 2011 - 08:07 .

[JKoopman]

Mesina2 wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

blacqout wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

Nice try, troll. But I'm not rising to your bait.

Of course you're not. You're just going to make baseless, unsubstantiated claims that tarnish my character, and then disappear.

You're like a Collector. Hit and run... like cowards.

It's highly amusing that you would call me a troll when you are the only poster in this thread making personal attacks.

I'm personally attacking you by linking to your threads and referrencing your posting history? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]

It's not defamation of character if it's true.

What about part you keep claiming he's a troll for no good reason?

No good reason? I've offered a dozen reasons why he's a troll. If you refuse to see it, that's your business. I hope you and blacquot are very happy together in your relationship.

[blacqout]

Gatt9 wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Wikipedia is not an infallible font of wisdom, as i'm sure you all know. I wouldn't put too much stock on metacritic ratings either. They gave Treyarch's masterpiece, Quantum of Solace, something lie a 60%, which is frankly preposterous.

And there are a whole lot of other variables to take into account. Such as the ever changing demographics of gamers. EA have evolved with the market, and cater to all of them, and the games that some demographics love, simply don't make for spectacular titles in the eyes of more traditional gamers.

Typically, the AAA titles EA publish are of exceptional quality. That's a much better fairer to judge them than on their whole catalogue.

1.  The average gamer is >35 years old,  in fact,  the video gaming market has existed for only about 30 years.  The demographic who were young when video games were created are still alive and well today.

2.  EA has not evolved with the market.  EA has down quite the opposite.  They release the same couple of games over and over and over and over.  Occasionally they accidently have a hit title which they then run into the ground as quickly as possible by fast cheap sequels with less and less of what made the original popular.

3.  EA has been severely mismanaged for years.  They ceased to be relevant over a decade ago.  Truth is,  the only reason EA still exists today is because of the NFL Monopoly.  Outside of that,  they've pretty much got nothing. 
4.  EA doesn't cater to anyone,  they release endless sequels of a couple games and fail to bring anything new to the market. 

5.  The "Traditional" gamers are the biggest demographic,  as I recognize you're using the word as a synonym for "Old".  I hate to have to tell you this,  but teenagers haven't been the biggest demographic for around 15 years now.  Teenagers have no income of note,  and are more likely to have active social lives than spend time gaming.  I'm sorry,  I know alot of people have a hard time with this,  but Teenagers aren't what drives gaming and attempting to cater to them is folly.

6.  EA doesn't make AAA titles.  They make rapid yearly sequels to accidental hits.  Halo is AAA,  Diablo/Starcraft are AAA,  Grand Turismo is AAA,  Metal Gear is AAA.  NFL,  The Sims,  and an occasional crappy Command & Conquer are not AAA.

1. I'm not sure why you consider this relevant, but okay. No argument from me.

2. That's simply not true. EA publish as wide of a variety of games as anyone, catering to all tastes.

3. That's simply not true. Their FIFA series is equally as popular.

4. That's simply not true. You may not like it, but the sports fans that love their yearly releases are video gamers too, and they're being well and truly catered to.

5. I'm sensing that you have a bit of an issue with age. I haven't said anything to suggest that "only teenagers play games". I'm a 25 year old man myself.

6. FIFA is a AAA. But you clearly didn't read what i wrote. I said "published". Mass Effect 2 is an AAA title. BFBC2 is an AAA. Medal of Honor is an AAA.

Your little shopping list doesn't really address any of my points. I'm not sure why i responded.

[Relix28]

www.youtube.com/watch

Speaking of Russians...

[blacqout]

Gatt9 wrote...

I find it very interesting that a Russian would attempt to reference an American law in order to divert attention to his behavior. 

I'm afraid I've gotta go with Shennagins.

Btw,  you really may want to avoid referencing healthy human minds,  generally speaking,  dressing up as your in-game video game character to play a video game alone would be regarded as a distinct sign of a dissociative disorder.

I'm sorry, but i have literally no idea what you are talking about. How did i reference an "American law in order"?

BTW, i appreciate the personal insult. I'm not sure what i have said to upset anybody so much, but feel free to stop.

[Pacifien]

Guys, if you feel someone is a troll, going on about it in the thread means you're contributing to the spam that you're accusing someone else of instigating. Report posts to moderators via PM. And whatever this thread might have been about initially, it's certainly become more of a personal argument now. Locked.