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#26
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Thanks to the OP for letting us know about the update, I've downloaded and installed the new 270 drivers and have seen a massive improvement.

GTX 470 SC, Non-SLI, 8xAA, 16xAF, Set: Very High (All boxes enabled: SSAO, Diffusion, Blur and High Res) and its running like a champ.

There are some minor hiccups here and there, but I suspect that those won't go away until 1.02.

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New 270 driver - 560 GTX-TI (overclock slightly 880 MHZ)

1920x1080 (8xAA, 16xAF, Very High, SSAO, Diffusion, Blur, High Res) - About 28-30 FPS - feels much smoother than before.

1920x1080 (8xAA, 16xAF, Very High, SSAO, Diffusion, Blur, High Res) + DragonAgeNexus extra Texture pack - previously it didnt made a difference but with the new driver - performance dropped to 15 FPS. Looks like those texture were not processed before this patch XD

1920x1080 (4xAA, 16xAF, Very High, SSAO, Blur, High Res) - about 35-40 FPS - very smooth.
1920x1080 (8xAA, 16xAF, Very High, SSAO, Diffusion, Blur, High Res) - about 30-35 FPS - very smooth.

1 ) Noticeable difference - Finally my GPU usage is up to 98% - unlike before :P

2 ) The extra texture pack has a huge impact on performance when using 8xAA

3 ) Stuttering still occurs when I am not holding down the right mouse button - but I think that nVidia did a great job. Hopefully patch 1.02 will fix the rest!

Modifié par ashwind, 31 mars 2011 - 03:43 .


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ashwind wrote...

New 270 driver - 560 GTX-TI (overclock slightly 880 MHZ)

1920x1080 (8xAA, 16xAF, Very High, SSAO, Diffusion, Blur, High Res) - About 28-30 FPS - feels much smoother than before.

1920x1080 (8xAA, 16xAF, Very High, SSAO, Diffusion, Blur, High Res) + DragonAgeNexus extra Texture pack - previously it didnt made a difference but with the new driver - performance dropped to 15 FPS. Looks like those texture were not processed before this patch XD

1920x1080 (4xAA, 16xAF, Very High, SSAO, Blur, High Res) - about 35-40 FPS - very smooth.
1920x1080 (8xAA, 16xAF, Very High, SSAO, Diffusion, Blur, High Res) - about 30-35 FPS - very smooth.

1 ) Noticeable difference - Finally my GPU usage is up to 98% - unlike before :P

2 ) The extra texture pack has a huge impact on performance when using 8xAA

3 ) Stuttering still occurs when I am not holding down the right mouse button - but I think that nVidia did a great job. Hopefully patch 1.02 will fix the rest!

So if I'm using that texture pack, which I am, I shouldn't download this new beta driver? I'm already running on a comfortable 30-35 fps and I was hoping this new beta driver would improve that.

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Coldest wrote...

So if I'm using that texture pack, which I am, I shouldn't download this new beta driver? I'm already running on a comfortable 30-35 fps and I was hoping this new beta driver would improve that.

There's no harm in trying it. When it comes to game performance you'll generally find your mileage may vary anyway and if needed you can always just revert to the previous driver. Definately worth a try considering the performance boosts you could get.

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Running two GTX 460 on SLI, no miracle there but a decent boost

DX11 1920x1080(2xAA, 8xAF, High, SSAO, High Res) - what i ran with OLD DRIVER, ~32-35 fps
DX11 1920x1080(4xAA, 16xAF, High, SSAO, High Res, VS) - VERY smooth now ~44 fps
DX11 1920x1080(4xAA, 16xAF, Very High, SSAO, Blur, High Res, VS) - doubled from 10-15fps to about 20-30fps but still stuttering so not very enjoyable to play

keep up the good work, I know you can do more! <3

Modifié par Perento, 31 mars 2011 - 09:41 .


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Mipharos wrote...

Thanks to the OP for letting us know about the update, I've downloaded and installed the new 270 drivers and have seen a massive improvement.

GTX 470 SC, Non-SLI, 8xAA, 16xAF, Set: Very High (All boxes enabled: SSAO, Diffusion, Blur and High Res) and its running like a champ.

There are some minor hiccups here and there, but I suspect that those won't go away until 1.02.


How much FPS do you get on the intro battle? Because i also got an 470, not overclocked though and i only get around 20-24 fps. Find it odd since i can run Metro on Max except AA. This game does not look nearly as good and still runs much worse.

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Coldest wrote...
So if I'm using that texture pack, which I am, I shouldn't download this new beta driver? I'm already running on a comfortable 30-35 fps and I was hoping this new beta driver would improve that.


Umm so sorry - I tested it again after rebooting my PC. With the texture pack, I lose about 2 FPS - not a big deal. 

I think you should use the new Driver because:
- 40 FPS with the 267 beta driver (lower setting)
- 30 FPS with the 270 beta driver (All maxed))

The 30 FPS with the new driver is smoother - frame drops is now very minimal and stuttering issue too has improved a lot.

So - new driver offer smoother animation even at lower FPS than before.

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Since everyone posts their frames: is there an easy way to display ingame FPS?

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CMK wrote...

Since everyone posts their frames: is there an easy way to display ingame FPS?


Download fraps

http://www.fraps.com/

Dissapointed. The so called 200 to 300% performance increase is a lie. I only get like 10 more fps. My GTX 470. I get 22- 25 on the intro battle with everything max. No AA and not SSAO gives me around 30 fps. should run this fine, it runs Crysis 2 on max, Metro 2033 on max except AA. And both of these games looks so much better than DA2. If the patch does not fix this performance i will be for the first time in my life, truly dissapointed with bioware.

Modifié par Merwanor, 31 mars 2011 - 11:32 .


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Merwanor wrote...

CMK wrote...

Since everyone posts their frames: is there an easy way to display ingame FPS?


Download fraps

http://www.fraps.com/


Thanks.

GTX 580, i7-2600 @ 3.40 GHz, 8,00 GB DDR3
Everything maxed: ~45 frames

About the same performance as with the inf-moded 267.59 PLUS no more clunky shadows during combat with full AA.

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CMK wrote...

Since everyone posts their frames: is there an easy way to display ingame FPS?

As already mentioned, you can use fraps - personally I use MSI Afterburner which is free (as I also use it to overclock my graphics card - it also can be used to take screenshots/videos, though unfortunately the videos have no sound).

Merwanor wrote...

Dissapointed. The so called 200 to 300% performance increase is a lie. I only get like 10 more fps. My GTX 470. I get 22- 25 on the intro battle with everything max. No AA and not SSAO gives me around 30 fps. should run this fine, it runs Crysis 2 on max, Metro 2033 on max except AA. And both of these games looks so much better than DA2. If the patch does not fix this performance i will be for the first time in my life, truly dissapointed with bioware.

The 200-300% performance increases were for those specific cards (GTX 580/GTX 560 Ti) when compared to the v266.58 WHQL drivers (which were not DA2 optimized at all and provided appalling performance).

I posted this in another thread, but I'll put it here for you too:

A suggestion for you and anyone else with a low DX11 framerate - disable Screen space ambient occlusion and Diffusion depth of field (both of which IMO do not seem to be very nVidia optimized, even with the beta driver). You should find your framerate goes up a fair bit and the game does not stutter.

Edit: Before disabling them, if it is on try turning off vsync - doing this dramatically reduced stuttering for me.

I generally get around 50-60 FPS with the occasional drop to ~40 FPS at 1920x1080 with 4x AA, 16x AF, HQ Textures, HQ Blur. Specs in sig now (as I am tired of typing them out each time :P)

Modifié par BTCentral, 31 mars 2011 - 03:40 .


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Everyone is talking about an increase of FPS with the new drivers. Fine.
But IMO whats way more important: Do the new drivers fix the annoying temporary freezing?

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Ross42899 wrote...

Everyone is talking about an increase of FPS with the new drivers. Fine.
But IMO whats way more important: Do the new drivers fix the annoying temporary freezing?

By temporary freezing do you mean stuttering? If so, as long as SSAO/DDOF are off (in my case at least) then yes. If not, no.

If you mean something other than stuttering, I have not experienced that so no idea.

Modifié par BTCentral, 31 mars 2011 - 12:37 .


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What i heard these drivers just start working, if you restart computer after the new drivers are installed.

You cant just install and gibb like with normal drivers.

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Pluppy wrote...

What i heard these drivers just start working, if you restart computer after the new drivers are installed.

You cant just install and gibb like with normal drivers.

I'm not quite sure what you mean?

All I did was run the setup, choose Custom (Advanced) and tick the Perform a clean installation box - this removed my previous beta drivers and installed the new ones - no reboot was required for me (though I always reboot after installing new drivers anyway for good measure).

Modifié par BTCentral, 31 mars 2011 - 01:34 .


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BTCentral wrote...

Pluppy wrote...

What i heard these drivers just start working, if you restart computer after the new drivers are installed.

You cant just install and gibb like with normal drivers.

I'm not quite sure what you mean?

All I did was run the setup, choose Custom (Advanced) and tick the Perform a clean installation box - this removed my previous beta drivers and installed the new ones - no reboot was required for me (though I always reboot after installing new drivers anyway for good measure).


This too.

Lately I haven't been prompted for a reboot on the driver upgrades. I had to rearrange my icons on my dual monitor setup each time but then reboot for good measure. It hasn't asked even without doing the clean install or the upgrade route of late. I haven't seen that "You must reboot" in months with nvidia drivers.

And checked driver version prior to the reboot and it shows the new install number too. But still I reboot because that's how I had to for years and stuck in my ways. lol

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I installed the latest NVIDIA 270.51 beta drivers on my laptop with an NVIDIA GTX 460M GPU.

Windows 7 and DA2 are very stable without any crash.

I confirm that I can get smooth stutter free gameplay of at least avg 30FPS with the following maximum settings :-

1920x1080 (8xAA, 16xAF, Very High, SSAO, Diffusion, Blur, High Res) . Only VSync was turned off since I am not running any SLI GPU.

I also overclocked my GPU slightly with MSI Afterburner.

Now I can really bask in the fantastic visuals of DA2. :)

Enough talk, time for me to get back to the DA2 game.

Modifié par DargaardKeep, 31 mars 2011 - 03:02 .


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DargaardKeep wrote...

I confirm that I can get smooth stutter free gameplay of at least avg 30FPS with the following maximum settings :-

1920x1080 (8xAA, 16xAF, Very High, SSAO, Diffusion, Blur, High Res) . Only VSync was turned off since I am not running any SLI GPU.

Thank you for posting this.

I was wondering how you could use SSAO and Diffusion on a laptop GPU GTX 460 GPU, when I could not even use it without stuttering on my Desktop GTX 460 GPU - it turns out, that if you disable vsync and hold down the right mouse button to move left/right it seems to fix the suttering I was getting.

Modifié par BTCentral, 31 mars 2011 - 03:30 .


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ashwind wrote...

Coldest wrote...
So if I'm using that texture pack, which I am, I shouldn't download this new beta driver? I'm already running on a comfortable 30-35 fps and I was hoping this new beta driver would improve that.


Umm so sorry - I tested it again after rebooting my PC. With the texture pack, I lose about 2 FPS - not a big deal. 

I think you should use the new Driver because:
- 40 FPS with the 267 beta driver (lower setting)
- 30 FPS with the 270 beta driver (All maxed))

The 30 FPS with the new driver is smoother - frame drops is now very minimal and stuttering issue too has improved a lot.

So - new driver offer smoother animation even at lower FPS than before.

Thanks!

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Has anyone else started getting random crashes and strange graphical bugs since using these new beta drivers? I see so much praise on these forums about the improved performance, but I think I may have to go back to the previous beta drivers. I'm using a gtx 580 btw. I was playing at about 40fps, which is fine I suppose, with the previous beta drivers, 4xaa 4xaf very high settings. I was hoping to be able to max out AA/AF with the new drivers, but they only seem to have made things worse for me - which is strange seeing as everyone here is only experiencing improved performance. The fps may have increased a little bit, but there are random lines drawn on people's faces and through their bodies and I crash MUCH more often. Any advice on getting these new drivers to work?

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Merwanor wrote...

CMK wrote...

Since everyone posts their frames: is there an easy way to display ingame FPS?


Download fraps

http://www.fraps.com/

Dissapointed. The so called 200 to 300% performance increase is a lie. I only get like 10 more fps. My GTX 470. I get 22- 25 on the intro battle with everything max. No AA and not SSAO gives me around 30 fps. should run this fine, it runs Crysis 2 on max, Metro 2033 on max except AA. And both of these games looks so much better than DA2. If the patch does not fix this performance i will be for the first time in my life, truly dissapointed with bioware.



I wish people would stop comparing game performance with other game engines. Unless they are running the exact same engine (i.e. Unreal 3.5) then you are not making a valid comparison.


Your FPS sound about right for that card. I have a 570 and am slightly better.

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BTCentral wrote...

CMK wrote...

Since everyone posts their frames: is there an easy way to display ingame FPS?

As already mentioned, you can use fraps - personally I use MSI Afterburner which is free (as I also use it to overclock my graphics card - it also can be used to take screenshots/videos, though unfortunately the videos have no sound).

Merwanor wrote...

Dissapointed. The so called 200 to 300% performance increase is a lie. I only get like 10 more fps. My GTX 470. I get 22- 25 on the intro battle with everything max. No AA and not SSAO gives me around 30 fps. should run this fine, it runs Crysis 2 on max, Metro 2033 on max except AA. And both of these games looks so much better than DA2. If the patch does not fix this performance i will be for the first time in my life, truly dissapointed with bioware.

The 200-300% performance increases were for those specific cards (GTX 580/GTX 560 Ti) when compared to the v266.58 WHQL drivers (which were not DA2 optimized at all and provided appalling performance).

I posted this in another thread, but I'll put it here for you too:

A suggestion for you and anyone else with a low DX11 framerate - disable Screen space ambient occlusion and Diffusion depth of field (both of which IMO do not seem to be very nVidia optimized, even with the beta driver). You should find your framerate goes up a fair bit and the game does not stutter.

Edit: Before disabling them, if it is on try turning off vsync - doing this dramatically reduced stuttering for me.

I generally get around 50-60 FPS with the occasional drop to ~40 FPS at 1920x1080 with 4x AA, 16x AF, HQ Textures, HQ Blur. Specs in sig now (as I am tired of typing them out each time :P)


There is a new beta version of Afterburner, it adds sound recording for videos now.
http://downloads.gur...nload-2604.html

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I've started experiencing some kind of microlag with the new beta drivers ... not sure what to call it. Sometimes, no matter how high or low the graphics settings, the game starts to twich a bit. Like it freezes up for a fraction of a second, and then does so every other second or something like that. Which makes it look "twitchy". Seems to happen mostly in Hightown, for some reason, and it always goes away when I go to another area.

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This driver set was a massive improvement in performance over the last beta set. I now get 60-80FPS almost everywhere now with a 480GTX.

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i have a 460 gtx se and run the game with the new beta driver with everything maxed out except for AA and still got 40-50 FPS but you should have like 60 fps on this game have you started a new game thats where all the updates apply to not games created before patch 1.02