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[Capt. Klef]

Hello everyone,

Well I finished the game on the PS3 and I"m extremely disappointed.

1.  The game was a hell of alot shorter than Dragon Age Origins

2.  the game ends on a cliff hanger with not much of an epic ending like in Origins.

3.  The entire game takes place in ONE city of Kirkwall without exploring the entire northern lands from Fereldan.  You know, how about a visit to Tevinter or Orlais, or how about Antiva.  Places like that where the story line could expand.

4.  The game constantly freezes up.

5.  You can't give away Hawks armor and weapons to other companions that could use it.  Unlike Origins, where you can.

Let see, what else?

6.  Now at the end, there is a war between the mages and the templars.  ThATS IT? THATS HOW YOU END IT. JUST LIKE THAT.  WTF?????????????????????

If I knew then, what I know now, I would of paid $25 for the disappointing game instead of $49. 

If you didn't play it yet, you'll see what I'm talking about.

Modifié par Capt. Klef, 31 mars 2011 - 04:45 .

[Avissel]

You would have paid less for it? So..you mean you would have bought it later?
So even knowing that you don't like it you would have bought it anyway?

[Darth Obvious]

Everyone I know agrees with the OP, and he should also mention the dreadfully repetitive "waves" of enemies in combat. This cheap method to make the game longer just makes it even more boring than it already is, especially once you realize that these waves of enemies will just appear out of nowhere in virtually every fight. YAAAAWWWWWWN.

[Capt. Klef]

NOOOOO what I"m saying is if I knew the game was this disappointing before it was released, (i'm speaking hypothetically, since I'm not actually psychic), I would have either pay much less for it or not buy it at all.

[Lithuasil]

Another whine-thread, because you just couldn't post in any of the others, post in the right forum, or you know, keep it to yourself?

Good job, really.

[Capt. Klef]

kiss my a _ _

[Capt. Klef]

For anyone who thinks the game is thee best thing since apple pie, post elsewhere.

[Darth Obvious]

Just ignore Lithuasil. She apparently loves this game so much that she spends every waking minute of her day HERE on this forum, desperately trying in vain to defend this sh---y game instead of actually playing it. Literally every time I have come here she has been here, for WEEKS.

[Capt. Klef]

Just so everyone knows, I posted HERE, because my thread contains SPOILERRRRRSSSSSS and for those, Like me,who want to VENT. Anyone else who are not feeling what I'm feeling, GO ELSEWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Asdara]

Capt. Klef wrote...

Hello everyone,

Well I finished the game on the PS3 and I"m extremely disappointed.

1.  The game was a hell of alot shorter than Dragon Age Origins

2.  the game ends on a cliff hanger with not much of an epic ending like in Origins.

3.  The entire game takes place in ONE city of Kirkwall without exploring the entire northern lands from Fereldan.  You know, how about a visit to Tevinter or Orlais, or how about Antiva.  Places like that where the story line could expand.

4.  The game constantly freezes up.

5.  You can't give away Hawks armor and weapons to other companions that could use it.  Unlike Origins, where you can.

Let see, what else?

6.  Now at the end, there is a war between the mages and the templars.  ThATS IT? THATS HOW YOU END IT. JUST LIKE THAT.  WTF?????????????????????

If I knew then, what I know now, I would of paid $25 for the disappointing game instead of $49. 

If you didn't play it yet, you'll see what I'm talking about.

Please note, I wasn't going to post... until you told me not to - who made you the boss?

1.) MY game is about the same playtime as one of my original DA:O games before the DLC that came down after the core came (with Shale, cause I got that included).  Maybe you are playing it wrong.  Maybe you are not putting the same amount of effort into finding the little side trips and extra dialog and unmarked quests.

2.) You want to save the world every time you play a DA game?  That would be boring, and also cheapen the act of doing something epic into something that happens every few years in Thedas.  Brilliant plan, write to Bioware about it, see what they say.

3.) You live in a place, you tend to stay local - especially if travel takes a long time, like it would in a world without cars, trains, planes, and so forth.  Plus, Hawke has no reason to be out traveling the world except YOU wanting to see new areas, so I am guessing you'd complain about "no reason for us to be going everywhere" if it was the other way around.  

4.) That's unfortunate.  I've played through 4 times and had to reset for freeze maybe a dozen times, so I don't consider that too too bad, but I've heard others are having more difficulty (I'm on console, PS3, so maybe that's a factor, I don't know).  I am sorry you're in the group that is having problems, excessive freezing always disrupts a good gaming experience.

5.) I didn't love that aspect either, but it does make some sense given the fact that you aren't their "leader" or their mother/father to dress them as you see fit.  People want to wear what they want I guess, and since we're all living life in the city of our own choice and not, say, wandering gathering an army for the Blight picking up anything we can find along the way and putting it to use... meh.  We get weapons and accessories - the signature outfits are supposed to make up for lack of customization in look - but I would have liked to see an option mode where they had at least 3 things to wear that I could select - or more notably different outfits as you upgraded them, sure.   On the upside, inventory management doesn't take eleventy billion hours like it used to.

6.) You're obviously in shock, so I'm just going to let that sink in on its own.

Goodluck.  

[RazorrX]

Capt. Klef wrote...

Hello everyone,

Well I finished the game on the PS3 and I"m extremely disappointed.

1.  The game was a hell of alot shorter than Dragon Age Origins

And it had a MUCH shorter development cycle.  How could you NOT know that it would be much shorter?  Less than half the development time of the original game.

2.  the game ends on a cliff hanger with not much of an epic ending like in Origins.

Do you mean the epilog slides?  You realize that according to David Gaider those are just rumor and heresay, and not factual right?  And having Varric say what happened to you is worse than rumor and heresay slides?

3.  The entire game takes place in ONE city of Kirkwall without exploring the entire northern lands from Fereldan.  You know, how about a visit to Tevinter or Orlais, or how about Antiva.  Places like that where the story line could expand.

Again - Look at the dev time for this game vs the time spent on Origins.  Less time = less areas.

4.  The game constantly freezes up.

I had that problem 1 or 2 times max, and then it was because I was alt tabbing for something.

5.  You can't give away Hawks armor and weapons to other companions that could use it.  Unlike Origins, where you can.

You CAN give weapons to companions, just not to Varric.  I liked the concept of the Companion Armor as it let them have thier own look.  I wish that we could have had an appearance tab for ourselves too.  In fact an appearance tab for companions would be cool.  I hated that Morrigan lost her unique look when I gave her better armor.  I liked that Miranda always looked like Miranda in ME2.

Let see, what else?

6.  Now at the end, there is a war between the mages and the templars.  ThATS IT? THATS HOW YOU END IT. JUST LIKE THAT.  WTF?????????????????????

If I knew then, what I know now, I would of paid $25 for the disappointing game instead of $49. 

If you didn't play it yet, you'll see what I'm talking about.

The whole mage-templar war has been brewing for a long time, you were there to see it happen.  (Note that some would say you helped set it off, I think you were just the wrong person at the wrong time, and got caught up in it).

In the end - Look at the development time. 

YES Act 3 should have been at least 2 times longer so that you could have had both sides to explore (templars going bad, good templars, bad mages, good mages, etc.)  

There should have been interconnections to the main players of act 3 all through the game if that was going to be the over all arching storyline.  

There was a LOT of things they should have done, but the created the game in the time it takes them to make a ME sequel.  Welcome to the world of an EA run Bioware.  Shorter Dev times to try and get higher revenue.   On the bright side, we got a sequel REALLY fast, and one that was enjoyable for many (me included), had some very nice improvements to combat, etc.  I think on the whole Bioware did an awesome job considering what they were up against.

Modifié par RazorrX, 30 mars 2011 - 03:06 .

[Aloradus]

Lithuasil wrote...

Another whine-thread, because you just couldn't post in any of the others, post in the right forum, or you know, keep it to yourself?

Good job, really.

You didn't have to click on it, the content is fairly obvious from the title... Are you that clueless?  It’s a public forum anyone who bought the game can post whatever they want.  If Bioware has a problem with criticism they can start to ban people.

[Anariel Theirin]

I agree with a lot of what the OP is saying, but I gotta say---my first playthrough took me a little over 50 hours. (To compare, my first Origins playthrough was 54.) I know a lot of others are saying they finished this game in half that time, or even less. I'm not sure how such a huge difference in play time is happening. I know that I missed some quests (Gamlen and his daughter, for example, and the mage board quests cuz I'm an idiot and didn't realize the "board" she was talking about was right behind her).

I froze up twice in my entire playthrough. It was only twice, but it was still extremely annoying. I don't expect perfection, but I can definitely understand the frustration from it.

I actually really love saving the world in games. I'm not opposed to a game doing something different than having you save the world, of course, but I definitely don't find the concept boring! However, speaking only for myself here, I think the whole "lack of epic" feeling isn't so much the fact that you're not saving the world in this game, it's that you don't have a clearly defined goal of any sort. For example, in the God of War series, you're not saving the world, but you know what your goal is, and it's a big one. You spend your time in the game doing various things to work toward that goal, so your purpose is defined. That gives it that "epic" feeling, I think. (Yeah, I know GoW isn't an RPG, but it was the first thing that came to mind that was epic, yet didn't have you saving the world.)

[Aloradus]

There are serious story flaws in this game, many people have discussed them to exhaustion... Fanboiz however will always go along blindly because it somehow lowers their experience to admit something is wrong.

People defend Spider man 3, people defend the first star wars movies... Ive even heard people defend the dungeons and dragons movie lol

[Capt. Klef]

OK, for those who do understand what I'm saying , the game ends with a war between the mages and the templars without resolution. At the end you see Leliana and the Seeker talking about finding hawk and his/her companions. THE GAME ENDED WITH A CLIFFFFFFFFF-HANGERRRRRRRR. Like a movie that keeps you hanging until a sequel comes out a few years later. Does anyone understand what I'm saying??????????? If not, I'm done replying to this

[Gamer Ftw]

The 1000th board saying the same thing at what point does this become spamming?

[Darth Obvious]

Anariel Theirin wrote...

I agree with a lot of what the OP is saying, but I gotta say---my first playthrough took me a little over 50 hours. (To compare, my first Origins playthrough was 54.) I know a lot of others are saying they finished this game in half that time, or even less. I'm not sure how such a huge difference in play time is happening.

It is a huge difference.

DAO took me about 75 hours on my first playthrough, only skipping a few quests. It took my friends and my brother at least that long as well. The fact is that many of the main quests were quite long, and there were many more long conversations to be had with characters in the game.

DA2 took less than half that amount of time (about 35 hours), only skipping a few minor quests. This seems very consistent with others' experiences as well.

The difference is easily noticeable.

[Avissel]

I understand what you are saying.

Ending on Cliffhanger has been something all forms of media have been doing since...pretty much the invention of the concept of entertainment.

[ginzaen]

So basically you want a bias opinion - which matches yours? grow up please.

[Capt. Klef]

SEEE THATS EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

[Anariel Theirin]

Darth Obvious wrote...

Anariel Theirin wrote...

I agree with a lot of what the OP is saying, but I gotta say---my first playthrough took me a little over 50 hours. (To compare, my first Origins playthrough was 54.) I know a lot of others are saying they finished this game in half that time, or even less. I'm not sure how such a huge difference in play time is happening.

It is a huge difference.

DAO took me about 75 hours on my first playthrough, only skipping a few quests. It took my friends and my brother at least that long as well. The fact is that many of the main quests were quite long, and there were many more long conversations to be had with characters in the game.

DA2 took less than half that amount of time (about 35 hours), only skipping a few minor quests. This seems very consistent with others' experiences as well.

The difference is easily noticeable.

Yes, and I'm a bit baffled by it.  It took one of my brothers 30 hours to beat it, my other brother around 40, and me, over 50.  The only difference is that, for the brother who took 30 hours, he didn't have the DLC (which barely added an hour or two extra anyway).  I have no idea how I got the 50 hours, but I have seen a few (rare) other people on here saying it took them about as long.  Mostly everyone is saying exactly what you are--that it's significantly shorter.  

[Capt. Klef]

EXACTLY!!!

[Capt. Klef]

EXACTLY!!!

[Capt. Klef]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

The 1000th board saying the same thing at what point does this become spamming?

Whatever your talking about...

[Capt. Klef]

Darth Obvious wrote...

Anariel Theirin wrote...

I agree with a lot of what the OP is saying, but I gotta say---my first playthrough took me a little over 50 hours. (To compare, my first Origins playthrough was 54.) I know a lot of others are saying they finished this game in half that time, or even less. I'm not sure how such a huge difference in play time is happening.

It is a huge difference.

DAO took me about 75 hours on my first playthrough, only skipping a few quests. It took my friends and my brother at least that long as well. The fact is that many of the main quests were quite long, and there were many more long conversations to be had with characters in the game.

DA2 took less than half that amount of time (about 35 hours), only skipping a few minor quests. This seems very consistent with others' experiences as well.

The difference is easily noticeable.

YES, YESSS, that's exactly what i'm saying.  Finally someone understands