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[cedgedc]

Like many of you, I am a big fan of the products Bioware has turned out over the years. However, I am a multiplayer/MMO fan at heart. I love the immersion that Bioware brings to their worlds. When I play the Mass Effect series, or the Dragon Age series, I put myself into my character's shoes- something I can't do in any other games.

Many of you may site other examples, but I'm sure I won't be alone in thinking that in many ways, when it comes to bringing the player into the world, Bioware really takes the cake.

Yet for myself and many players, this effect loses a lot of it's impact when your experience isn't shared directly with other real people. Bioware has done a -phenominal- job with creating npc's that interract and engage with the player wonderfully, but it will never hold a candle to the interractions players share with eachother.

No matter what decisions the player makes, at the end of the day the player knows that decision hasn't effected anyone else. This leaves that initial excitement of having your decisions recognized, shortlived and hollow.

So I issue this plea to Bioware, with the confidence that I am not the only player feeling this way: When are you going to apply your unparralleled skills of world building to the MMO universe?

Bioware has drawn a line in the sand with it's products. They make games to be enjoyed by a mature audience. Let's face it, video games aren't for kids anymore. Those kids that most companies were all catering to years ago, have grown up. We're in our 20's and 30's (for the most part) and we still want to be entertained. Playing some senselessly violent shooter isn't going to do it.

Many of us are tired and utterly unimpressed by MMO's on the market that are supposed to cater to people 13+. Guess what? There is almost nothing that will truly simultaneously engage both a 13 year old and a 25 year old.

I, like many of my fellow gamers, want an MMO that depicts a realistic world. I look at games like Rift, Aion, WoW and I see this unrealistic example of a "war torn world" where it's this faction fighting the good fight against 'evil'. Every town is a warfront and everyone is a warrior or helpless maiden.

Bioware, you seem to realise that to make a real world, it needs to be a place that is filled with corruption, senseless violence and injustice, where the good is often drowned out by darkness and the way to salvation seems all but hopless. Where people aren't united in a single effort, but more often divided, squabbling, and as much a part of the problem as the 'true threat'.

You know, all the stuff we've come to love and cherish about the real world around us!

A lot of gamers are still waiting for that multiplayer experience which combines the quality and immersion of a mature single player rpg, with the social integration of a massively multiplayer game. Bioware is the company that can deliver this.

Thanks for reading.

[Contalion]

ummm.....Bioware is the lead developer on Star Wars: The Old Republic.....which is an MMO that is supposed to come out around the end of this year....its set in the KOTOR universe, around 80 years after KOTOR 2....so...yeah.

[Quaay]

Contalion wrote...

ummm.....Bioware is the lead developer on Star Wars: The Old Republic.....which is an MMO that is supposed to come out around the end of this year....its set in the KOTOR universe, around 80 years after KOTOR 2....so...yeah.

^^this

www.swtor.com/

[cedgedc]

True enough, though I feel that Bioware's best products have been their original IP. Personally I have never even been a Sci-fi fan in the slightest. I wouldn't touch a star wars game with a 10 foot Ethernet cable, but I loved the mass effect series.

[blazin130791]

Well you should play the 2 KOTOR games if you like mass effect. Don't be put up off by the star-wars stigma

[Quaay]

I would love a cross-platform Mass Effect mmo...so pc, 360, and ps3 players could all play together.

[Julie the bogan]

Don't be put off by SWTOR just because it's Star wars, it looks amazing I can't wait to play it.

[cedgedc]

blazin130791 wrote...

Well you should play the 2 KOTOR games if you like mass effect. Don't be put up off by the star-wars stigma

I think the world sortof needs to come together and agree that Star Wars.. has been done. 6 movies, countless novels, comics, cartoons, and video games after video games later... I Think we've reached a point where we can say.. okay, next?

Quaay wrote...
I would love a cross-platform Mass Effect mmo...so pc, 360, and ps3 players could all play together.

In the perfect world would agree, but FFXIV is a fine example of what can happen when you try to go cross platform. You end up with an interface that is too contrived and complicated... Especially if you include pvp, it's hard to account for the advantages and disadvantages of console vs pc players.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Death to the MMO!

ME would be ruined.

[Hathur]

Contalion wrote...

ummm.....Bioware is the lead developer on Star Wars: The Old Republic.....which is an MMO that is supposed to come out around the end of this year....its set in the KOTOR universe, around 80 years after KOTOR 2....so...yeah.

Actually it's taking place over 300 years after Kotor 2.

[cedgedc]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

Death to the MMO!

ME would be ruined.

You mean you don't think it'd be fun to play a game where you can be some criminal overlord based in Omega, able to explore the city in full without limits and grow a character there who isn't necessarily concerned with being savior of the universe?

Who among us wouldn't enjoy that??

[Synobal]

A mass effect mmo would be terrible. Maybe I'm the only person in the world who just doesn't feel like MMOs can offer the experience I'd want from a Bioware game. MMOs are social creatures, not things for story telling.

[Coach]

TOR will ultimately decide for me whether MMO's are up for evolving. But at present, I would not greet the news of a ME MMO with much other than a facepalm. As Captain Picard once said... The line must be drawn here. This far. No farther.

[rayvioletta]

I'd much rather they make more single player games in the Mass Effect universe. preferably one using an Origin system similar to Dragon Age: Origins, with different race/gender/background combinations available. not likely though, but I can hope

[simbjv]

cedgedc wrote...

Destroy Raiden wrote...

Death to the MMO!

ME would be ruined.

Who among us wouldn't enjoy that??

Those who enjoy storytelling more than the social aspect of games. I understand BW is trying to bring that to the genre in full force with TOR, but you just can't match the immersion of a story in a single player game.

[Nicodemus]

MMO's require a lot of investment and a lot of time. Release a half baked MMO (Warhammer) and watch your company go under, that said the MMO market is saturated with the good the bad and the extinct. The good are the ones that have had time to develop over the years and iron out thier problems (EQ, EQ2, Dark Age of Camelot, WoW, etc) the bad are the ones that launched with massive problems and watched thier player base disappear (Warhammer, Age of Conan etc).

You also find that after a while the lore in each and every MMO starts being eaten away, I like the lore in ME as it is, even with some of the retcons and plot holes we see now. I do not want to see Bioware waste time, money and resources on producing something that has the potential to fail. Stick with the single player games and keep things lore consistent.

[theubersmurf]

I have to agree with the OP a bit here. I think ME is ripe for an MMO spin off. The Galaxy is ripe with crap to do, pirates, politics, various shady and noble tasks, the gamut of 'human' morality in modern society for various events in the game, there are countless things for people to potentially go do with numerous worlds to explore. I'm generally not one to get excited about an MMO, but I think Mass Effect is one of the best potential candidates for something like that in a while. Hordes of potential upgrades to be earned, a variety of races and classes to choose from...It's so ripe an opportunity IMO.

I know he wasn't specifically addressing the possibility of a ME MMO, but he did post it here, and I think rightly. And as for story, I like the possibility of writing my own in the ME Universe.

Just my two cents.

[theubersmurf]

Nicodemus wrote...

MMO's require a lot of investment and a lot of time. Release a half baked MMO (Warhammer) and watch your company go under, that said the MMO market is saturated with the good the bad and the extinct. The good are the ones that have had time to develop over the years and iron out thier problems (EQ, EQ2, Dark Age of Camelot, WoW, etc) the bad are the ones that launched with massive problems and watched thier player base disappear (Warhammer, Age of Conan etc).

You also find that after a while the lore in each and every MMO starts being eaten away, I like the lore in ME as it is, even with some of the retcons and plot holes we see now. I do not want to see Bioware waste time, money and resources on producing something that has the potential to fail. Stick with the single player games and keep things lore consistent.

Well, they have SWTOR to warm up with.

[Q4Waveslr]

Hate to break it to you but Bioware will not be doing an original IP MMO for at least another decade, they will not compete with their own massive budget MMO until it is dying.

As to your dislike of the Star Wars IP, it is causing you to miss one of if not Bioware's best games in KoToR.

I suggest you give it a shot, it is on a completely different level from most other Star Wars games with much of it's own lore and story

[Khayness]

I like to have absolute control over my playtime, thank you very much.

MMOs can be fun, but I had enough of them for a lifetime.

[Sleepicub09]

I rather not pay 15 dollars a month.

[Chromie]

cedgedc wrote...

True enough, though I feel that Bioware's best products have been their original IP. Personally I have never even been a Sci-fi fan in the slightest. I wouldn't touch a star wars game with a 10 foot Ethernet cable, but I loved the mass effect series.

Kotor recieved international praise when it came out same as Mass Effect. Kotor was an amazing game and Star Wars is just great. Besides what they are with ToR looks amazing and it's got questing like in DA and ME more detailed companions then ever before in a Bioware game. Combat clearly will be better simply because in an MMo everything should be balanced.

Multiple class story arcs that are somewhere around 200 hours and up according to Bioware times 8 classes. Well that sounds awesome to me.

[Julie the bogan]

Sleepicub09 wrote...

I rather not pay 15 dollars a month.

Cheapest hoby I can think of.

[JamieCOTC]

After ME3, I really don't care what BW does to the ME franchise.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 30 mars 2011 - 04:24 .

[rayvioletta]

Julie Shepard wrote...

Sleepicub09 wrote...

I rather not pay 15 dollars a month.

Cheapest hoby I can think of.

DA:O cost me £30 including Soldiers Peak & Prisoner of Stone DLCs, has lasted over a year now and still not bored of it. a lot less than WoW cost me in the first year even when you throw the other DLCs in. plus hobbies like reading don't cost a lot (depending on what and how many books you buy) and writing costs even less. some hobbies can even be profitable, like working on cars, radios, computers etc