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[JabbaDaHutt30]

Avissel wrote...

Yahtzee isn't really a fan of anything

Except Psychonaughts.
And people hated it when he did nothing but praise the game.

people who've actually played psychonauts didn't hate the game.

Modifié par JabbaDaHutt30, 30 mars 2011 - 07:56 .

[JamieCOTC]

I actually like parts of the game, but have to agree w/ every single point he made. Spot on and LOL.

[Woodstock-TC]

a tad naive view .. sorry :-)  But keep it up if you like.
// Sales Manager here .. used to these 'coincidents'  ^^

iTIMMEH wrote...

Woodstock-TC wrote...

as well as for the wired review:
well its kindof cheap to review several weeks after launch and having seen the discrepancy between the professional reviews and the user reviews.... crawling from their holes now 
=> if they would have tested before release it would have been noteworthy

i find these "late" revievs more "bought" than others, as they aim to buy attention and please the crowd sorry.

Unless you can get a review out to coincide with the release you're pandering to the masses? Sure, okay...

Total nonsense.

[Rockpopple]

To clarify: I'm not saying he hated Dragon Age: Origins. I'm saying he gave it a pretty brutal review. I watched that review days ago and thought it was pretty scathing - he not only bashed the game but the genre. He did say he kept playing it, tho.

With this review he was pretty much all on offense, but he did point out that the community was split over it and he did have some good points about the game.

So to me he's saying he's not a big fan of that kind of game anyway. Look at his review of Oblivion, another GOTY. Not that flattering either. It's just his way.

Anyway, this is just a funny review. He always makes me laugh and I thought I'd share it.

[Krrr8or]

I agree with his review of Dragon age 2. Bioware took a good game and catered to the console kids and made the game able to be played by a 10 year old. They did not improve the original game and the storyline was terrible. So all you people who think the game is awesome and anyone who disagrees with you are trolling you make me laugh. I have an opinion so do you. And if anything the "bought" reviews are the ones who priase a sequal that is worse than the original.

[JaegerBane]

Krrr8or wrote...

I agree with his review of Dragon age 2. Bioware took a good game and catered to the console kids and made the game able to be played by a 10 year old. They did not improve the original game and the storyline was terrible. So all you people who think the game is awesome and anyone who disagrees with you are trolling you make me laugh. I have an opinion so do you. And if anything the "bought" reviews are the ones who priase a sequal that is worse than the original.

I agree with the main points of yahtzee's review - the game itself just didn't have any point. It was fun but it was difficult to take seriously, with the constant deluge of murderers running at you and no coherent plot to follow.

I don't think this was about 'catering to the console kiddies', to be honest. Origins was available on consoles too. I think this was more that Bioware didn't really think through what they were doing with the sequel. They spent too much time on pointless crap like sticking horns on qunari and not enough time working on stuff that's actually important, like level design and story.

[Zhijn]

Right or wrong, Yahtzee always give me a good laugh. xD

[Apollo Taren]

You can normally tell when he actually dislikes a game and when he's just slamming the bad parts of a game that he actually likes, or at least finds decent. And then there's Minecraft, where I'm not sure he said anything actually bad about the game.

In this case, I'm pretty sure it's the first, especially considering he said the only good thing about DA2 is the random dialogue while you're running through the city. Honestly, I think he hit it right on the mark.

[LocutusX]

It is indeed a hilarious review, esp. the line about Hugh Grant.

But it's perhaps less funny that many of his comments can be found, in a serious tone, in the "Constructive Criticism" thread where various players are detailing things they didn't like about DA2 which they'd like improved in the next iteration... clearly this yahtzee fellow possesses sufficient lucidity of thought to notice the various problems of DA2 and incorporate them into his otherwise comic review.

[DeathStride]

As usual Yahtzee hit the nail on the head. Also as usual he had a comment or two in there that wasn't really a flaw, just something that annoyed him personally- the potions not being auto-used thing. I know I never turn that on after the one Origins playthrough where I tried and had the characters drain my entire (rather large) potion supply within a few battles. Much better to micro-manage.

My two favorite lines, absolutely hilarious and absolutely true:

"So many questing environments were reused without a single alteration that you'd think that the dungeons had started opening franchises!"

"Not so much a hero's journey, so much as a hero piddles around for a while gobbing off his handsome friend..."

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Modifié par DeathStride, 30 mars 2011 - 09:15 .

[JaegerBane]

DeathStride wrote...
My two favorite lines, absolutely hilarious and absolutely true:

"So many questing environments were reused without a single alteration that you'd think that the dungeons had started opening franchises."

"Not so much a hero's journey, so much as a hero piddles around for a while gobbing off his handsome friend..."

Yeah - pretty good points to make. Too much repetition and not enough substance. But said with Yahtzee's trademark humour

[Gavinthelocust]

I agreed with most of the things he said, but I still love the game.

[TJSolo]

Rockpopple wrote...

As expected, it's not pretty. 

But it's still laugh-out-loud hilarious. (And this coming from a guy who loves the game)

Considering his video review of Dragon Age: Origins wasn't very flattering either, I'm guessing he's not a fan of this particular series. 

EDIT: I know Yahtzee's a comedy reviewer and the whole point of his reviews are to slam games, even if occasionally he falls in love with a game, it's probably not the game most people play. The purpose of this thread IS NOT TO START A WAR BETWEEN THOSE WHO LIKE IT AND THOSE WHO DON'T. That's irrelevant. This is a funny review from a funny guy.

Want to know the difference between the DAO and DA2 review? Yahtzee said he liked DAO in the review and found the story interesting. That right there means he liked it even after all of his trademark roasting.

[nightlordv]

lol that was awesome

[Dan UK]

Yahtzee has a great reviewing skill. Even when you watch reviews of games you personaly loved, you usualy find yourself agreeing with him and laughing!

(not that I loved DA2! I just meant in general! At the start where he says the fans are split, im definatly in the 'rushed job/cash in' side!)

[Faust1979]

 Loving the game and I found the review funny. But what is wrong with just calling it Dragon Age II? is it really worse than calling it Dragon Age: Insert cheesy stereotypical name here

[GodBID]

Wow, he just ripped DA2 a new arse, and he hit it right in the balls with this review rofl

@Faust1979: They could have called it: Dragon Age: Rise to Power because that is in essence what you are doing, this is no follow up game it's a completely new story arch, but since they already had a game with the name Dragon Age: Origins they decided that "Hey let's try and grab some players with the name and just call it Dragon Age 2 even though most of the story has absolutely nothing to do with Origins apart from maybe the last 30 mins of game play"

Marketing 101 herpaderp.

Modifié par GodBID, 30 mars 2011 - 11:12 .

[Faust1979]

GodBID wrote...

Wow, he just ripped DA2 a new arse, and he hit it right in the balls with this review rofl

@Faust1979: They could have called it: Dragon Age: Rise to Power because that is in essence what you are doing, this is no follow up game it's a completely new story arch.

it mentions several things that happened in Dragon Age and it is set in the same world same timeline so it's a sequel to me 

[Paeyne]

No matter what you may think about DA2.. this is hilarious!

[GodBID]

Faust1979 wrote...

GodBID wrote...

Wow, he just ripped DA2 a new arse, and he hit it right in the balls with this review rofl

@Faust1979: They could have called it: Dragon Age: Rise to Power because that is in essence what you are doing, this is no follow up game it's a completely new story arch.

it mentions several things that happened in Dragon Age and it is set in the same world same timeline so it's a sequel to me 

The things being mentioned in DA2 that is part of DAO is so MINIMAL you could have used it in Mass Effect and people would have gone "Okai" and just ignored it, that's how much of a sequel it is, a proper Sequel would have taken place 2 - 3 years after the blight, with the same bloody hero that you imported, ala ME -> ME2 style, but no EAWare decided that hey we have 18 months lets make something that looks like DAO and make a quick buck, Hey don't get me wrong i like both games, they both bring something to the table the other one lacks, but to me this is not a proper sequel, and i think a lot of people agree with me on this.

[Haexpane]

Usually pretty funny reviews, but because it's one of the last bastions of traditional RPGs, the DA2 review is a bit depressing

[LocutusX]

GodBID wrote...

Faust1979 wrote...

GodBID wrote...

Wow, he just ripped DA2 a new arse, and he hit it right in the balls with this review rofl

@Faust1979: They could have called it: Dragon Age: Rise to Power because that is in essence what you are doing, this is no follow up game it's a completely new story arch.

it mentions several things that happened in Dragon Age and it is set in the same world same timeline so it's a sequel to me 

The things being mentioned in DA2 that is part of DAO is so MINIMAL you could have used it in Mass Effect and people would have gone "Okai" and just ignored it, that's how much of a sequel it is, a proper Sequel would have taken place 2 - 3 years after the blight, with the same bloody hero that you imported, ala ME -> ME2 style, but no EAWare decided that hey we have 18 months lets make something that looks like DAO and make a quick buck, Hey don't get me wrong i like both games, they both bring something to the table the other one lacks, but to me this is not a proper sequel, and i think a lot of people agree with me on this.

Well, let's be honest about this whole numbering thing.

In computer games, putting a "2" or "3" after the original title's name means didly squat.

In the RPG genre, what was the connection between NWN and NWN2? If you've played either, you'd know it was a very tenuous connection. Essentially they both took place near the city of Neverwinter. That's about it. NWN2 was more of a reboot than a continuation.

Outside the RPG genre... what is the connection between Call of Duty 4 and CoD 3? Civilization 5 and Civ4? Tetris 2 and Tetris 1? Ok the last was a joke...

Yes some games do use the "2" or "3" to denote a follow-up sequel, others simply use numbering to denote additional games in the same series. It's not a big deal.

[cljqnsnyc]

Faust1979 wrote...

GodBID wrote...

Wow, he just ripped DA2 a new arse, and he hit it right in the balls with this review rofl

@Faust1979: They could have called it: Dragon Age: Rise to Power because that is in essence what you are doing, this is no follow up game it's a completely new story arch.

it mentions several things that happened in Dragon Age and it is set in the same world same timeline so it's a sequel to me 

What you are describing is a spin off, not a sequel. A true sequel continues the story of it's predecessor. A spin off uses elements from a given source and creates something new. Isn't that exactly what DA2 does? The only reason it was called DA "2" was to cash in on the succsess of DAO. My feeling is they should have kept the original title : Dragon Age: Exodus. This would have allowed the game to stand on it's own strengths and faults.

Imagine "The Empire Strikes Back" without Luke, Leia, Han, etc. Insert an unknown hero on Tatooine who just happened to be nearby when the droids crashed on the planet. Create a story of their adventure. Have your hero run into a few people that knew Luke or Han. Throw in a cameo or 5.  Does that sound like a sequel to "Star Wars?" Set in the same world, utilizing the same timeline does not make it a sequel. That would make it a spin off. 

Modifié par cljqnsnyc, 30 mars 2011 - 11:49 .

[ZombiePowered]

I actually agree with his comment about adding numbers to the end of a title. Why don't video games do this? Books in a series have different titles, same with many movies. I'd like it if developers chose a relevant title for a game. It just adds that little bit more. After all, LotR didn't have LotR 1, 2, and 3, it gave each book its own title. Games should step it up.

[Faust1979]

cljqnsnyc wrote...

Faust1979 wrote...

GodBID wrote...

Wow, he just ripped DA2 a new arse, and he hit it right in the balls with this review rofl

@Faust1979: They could have called it: Dragon Age: Rise to Power because that is in essence what you are doing, this is no follow up game it's a completely new story arch.

it mentions several things that happened in Dragon Age and it is set in the same world same timeline so it's a sequel to me 

What you are describing is a spin off, not a sequel. A true sequel continues the story of it's predecessor. A spin off uses elements from a given source and creates something new. Isn't that exactly what DA2 does? The only reason it was called DA "2" was to cash in on the succsess of DAO. It would have been better of had they kept it's original title DA: Exodus.

Imagine "The Empire Strikes Back" without Luke, Leia, Han, etc. Insert an unknown hero on Tatooine who just happened to be nearby when the droids crashed on the planet. Create a story of their adventure. Have your hero run into a few people that knew Luke or Han. Throw in a cameo or 5.  Does that sound like a sequel to "Star Wars?" Set in the same world, utilizing the same timeline does not make it a sequel. That would make it a spin off. 

what about all the elder scrolls games? sure they have names at the end but they aren't considered spinoffs despite the fact that the games have little in common besides being set in the same world yet they are numbered 1-4 and the three are all considered sequels to the first one