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[PrinceLionheart]

Another Arrival Ending thread. So Shepard, for justfiable reasons, nuked over 300,000 batarian citizens. At this point, shouldn't Samara be compelled by her code to kill Shepard for his actions? Samara boss fight for ME3?

[Herr Sovereign]

 Nah, I let Morinth kill Samara. Don't have to worry about that 

[Dominus]

Samara understands that it's not necessarily dishonorable - it's saving as many trillions of lives at the cost of hundreds of thousands. Samara wouldn't respond emotionally, leave that to morinth.

[PrinceLionheart]

DominusVita wrote...

Samara understands that it's not necessarily dishonorable - it's saving as many trillions of lives at the cost of hundreds of thousands. Samara wouldn't respond emotionally, leave that to morinth.

Uh, Samara makes it pretty clear that her code is black and white. She even told the story of hunting down Nilhus because she witnessed him killing an innocent, and blatantly stated she didn't care what his reasons were.

[ADLegend21]

She's killed innocents to get to Morinth because they helped her, because her code compelled her. Shepard was compelled to blow up the relay to stop the reaper menace which Samara knows about so She's got nothing to worry about in terms of Samara.

[Thargorichiban]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

DominusVita wrote...

Samara understands that it's not necessarily dishonorable - it's saving as many trillions of lives at the cost of hundreds of thousands. Samara wouldn't respond emotionally, leave that to morinth.

Uh, Samara makes it pretty clear that her code is black and white. She even told the story of hunting down Nilhus because she witnessed him killing an innocent, and blatantly stated she didn't care what his reasons were.

Fortunately Shepard couldn't bring teammates so Samara never found out...

And coincidently it was that day that Shepard instituted a free bar at Kasumi's hangout.

[Mavkiel]

Or she could just figure since its only bartarians they deserve it(Why can't she be a wee bit raciest?). Or she could just reason it out. Reapers arrive in their space = dead bartarians(or mutated freaky ones). Thus killing them was an act of mercy. Oh and pass the marshmallows.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

ADLegend21 wrote...

She's killed innocents to get to Morinth because they helped her, because her code compelled her. Shepard was compelled to blow up the relay to stop the reaper menace which Samara knows about so She's got nothing to worry about in terms of Samara.

Incorrect. Samara killed murderers to get to Morinth. When she's telling the story about her trying to kill Nylis she says that he got away but puting an innocent life in danger and she could either catch him or save the innocent her code forced her to save the innocent.

Shepard allowed hundreds of thousands of innocents to die to try and stop his enemy... if I'm not completely wrong he might have done the exact opposite of what her code would tell her to do.

[Siansonea]

I think Samara would question Shepard at length about it. She knows Shepard, he's not some faceless merc who won't tell her the name of a ship. She might end up deciding that according to the Code, she now has to kill Shepard, but I think it wouldn't come to that. The Justicar Code is very specific, it may be that Shepard's attempt to warn the batarians would be an extenuating circumstance. And it may be that Shepard agreeing to stand trial would satisfy the Code. The Code serves to punish the unjust, not punish those who submit to established forms of justice.

Who else thinks it's odd that there were only 300,000 batarians in that system? Must not have been worth much if so few batarians wanted to be there.

[graciegrace]

Shephard tried to save the innocents if you so chose it. It was impossible however, as the transmission was cut out regardless of what you chose to do.

[Robhuzz]

scyphozoa wrote...

Uhh, Batarian Hegemony promotes legal slavery. I think Samara would wipe out Batarian culture single-handedly if she could.

^This! Death to the Batarians!

[Schattenkeil]

Thargorichiban wrote...


Fortunately Shepard couldn't bring teammates so Samara never found out...

And coincidently it was that day that Shepard instituted a free bar at Kasumi's hangout.

... and since they were all too drunk no one realized how long it took to fly to the next mass relay.

It's a classic to rpgs. The same kinda stuff that every group of D&D heroes pulls off when they gotta "question" the prisoner with a paladine along.

Modifié par Schattenkeil, 30 mars 2011 - 07:56 .

[diskoh]

There's no such thing as an innocent batarian.

[Baihu1983]

Difference here is Shep tried to save them and if he had not done what he did Samara would be dead anyways. Plus she clearly wants to bang my Shep.

[NKKKK]

Herr Sovereign wrote...

 Nah, I let Morinth kill Samara. Don't have to worry about that 

This

Also, no, Samara is a bigger Renegade than Shepard, she'd do it as well.

Modifié par NKKKK, 30 mars 2011 - 07:56 .

[ADLegend21]

Siansonea II wrote...

Who else thinks it's odd that there were only 300,000 batarians in that system? Must not have been worth much if so few batarians wanted to be there.

According to the codex entry the Batarians were Terra forming the planet, that's why there were so little of them, and they were mostly slaves and workers.

[JamieCOTC]

Samara will be fine w/ it. You don't get renegade points for blowing up the system, so it'll all be cool. In other news, Samara wants to kill my renegade Shep for being rude.

[Thargorichiban]

Schattenkeil wrote...

Thargorichiban wrote...


Fortunately Shepard couldn't bring teammates so Samara never found out...

And coincidently it was that day that Shepard instituted a free bar at Kasumi's hangout.

... and since they were all too drunk no one realized how long it took to fly to the next mass relay.

It's a classic to rpgs. The same kinda stuff that every group of D&D heroes pulls off when they gotta "question" the prisoner with a paladine along.

That or...

*points off in a random direction* Is that a bad man threatening an innocent puppy?!

*Paladin* I wouldn't fall for -

*Player rolls a natural 20 on bluff*

Paladin* ... Damn it... I'll save you Sir Droopy!

*Other players proceed to torture their way to answers*

[100k]

Robhuzz wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

Uhh, Batarian Hegemony promotes legal slavery. I think Samara would wipe out Batarian culture single-handedly if she could.

^This! Death to the Batarians!

Hell yeah! I never thought I'd loath any race more than the Geth (Legion changed that), but the Batarians deserve to be slaughtered. F-ing savages.

[Niulus Kriyk]

If a Reaper and an army of Collectors didn't kill the Commander why makes you think Samara could?

Like Zaeed said on Archangel mission "That's goddamn suicide!" for Samara.

[Dominus]

It's open to interpretation. I'm not wrong, or right. This is a "what if" thread, she isn't going to actually do anything against me because it wasn't added.

[Seraphithan]

Shepard didn't murder the Batarians, they were collateral damage. We don't know what the Code says about collateral damage, so it could go either way I guess.

[Bad King]

diskoh wrote...

There's no such thing as an innocent batarian.

facepalm

[ElectricZ]

Didn't Samara effectively give herself a pass when joining Shepard, telling him until the mission was done that "his code was her code?"

Not sure what that means for Shepards who did Arrival after the Collector Base mission, but it seems like he's got a green light to do pretty much anything as long as she's bound to him.

Be one helluva "decision" point in ME3, though, if you have to face down a pissed off Justicar who used to be your friend as a result... That's the kind of no-win decision I know Bioware can pull off when they put their minds to it...