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[hoorayforicecream]

Torax wrote...

Zevran was always an option in Origins. I never used it but it was there for those that liked the guy. Leliana was the other bisexual. The funny double standard is how 2 males seems to have some people blow a gasket but the 2 female thing not so much. Leliana being all in love with females is great and all candy but suddenly when they ask Zevran "Do you look at everyone like that?" they get appalled and feel like a crime has been committed upon them.

http://tvtropes.org/...nGirlIsHot]Girl on girl is hot.[/url]

[TheSharpenedPen]

Killjoy, you'd make Anders proud. Maybe you and him under the bridge aye?

[Camenae]

Don't feed the troll.

[Addai]

Ha ha. Funny thread, bro.

[DoNotIngest]

Oh, and you have the choice of another heterosexual relationship, which is called "Merrill". If you feel like a pedophile for starting a relationship with a 20-something year old woman, you must really be lonely. Aside from the fact that she has nothing in common with your non-existant "prepubescent moon bats" (Really, what orifice did you pull this out of? The same one crawling with Jockey Lobsters?).

Killjoy Cutter wrote...
C)  Get back under your bridge.

Nice.

[TheSharpenedPen]

Anyway, it is not my hope to convert a morally depraved generation into rational thinking, and if you like being swept up into homosexual love affairs, and that's what makes a medieval role playing game for you, then enjoy. To say that you can avoid these situations when one of the elf's in the brothel, who appears female is actually male, is somewhat disingenuous. What I see is a lack of choice - as I think I've outlined fairly well.

[Gamer Ftw]

TheSharpenedPen wrote...

Anyway, it is not my hope to convert a morally depraved generation into rational thinking, and if you like being swept up into homosexual love affairs, and that's what makes a medieval role playing game for you, then enjoy. To say that you can avoid these situations when one of the elf's in the brothel, who appears female is actually male, is somewhat disingenuous. What I see is a lack of choice - as I think I've outlined fairly well.

YOU CAN SAY NO!
or don't go to a brothel.

[TheSharpenedPen]

Donotingest - Ah more stupid commentary. The elf girl - 'Merrill' is it? (just shows how believable I found the characters in this game that their names really didn't stick) really looks like a tween and hardly has the appearance of a 20 year old. She looks like a jail-bait elf teenager - hardly suitable for a romance option in my view.

[Torax]

TheSharpenedPen wrote...

Anyway, it is not my hope to convert a morally depraved generation into rational thinking, and if you like being swept up into homosexual love affairs, and that's what makes a medieval role playing game for you, then enjoy. To say that you can avoid these situations when one of the elf's in the brothel, who appears female is actually male, is somewhat disingenuous. What I see is a lack of choice - as I think I've outlined fairly well.

I never talked to them in the Brothel. It's a Brothel. I prefer to not give my Kitten any STDs.

[Fenn_]

TheSharpenedPen wrote...

Anyway, it is not my hope to convert a morally depraved generation into rational thinking, and if you like being swept up into homosexual love affairs, and that's what makes a medieval role playing game for you, then enjoy. To say that you can avoid these situations when one of the elf's in the brothel, who appears female is actually male, is somewhat disingenuous. What I see is a lack of choice - as I think I've outlined fairly well.

how does the one who went into a brothal looking to hire a girl take the moral high ground?

Modifié par Fenn , 30 mars 2011 - 08:20 .

[pamkhat]

MJRick wrote...

Funny I didn't end up in a homosexual romance with anyone.

Pro Tip: Dont use the options with the heart when talking to other dudes.

And thread ended.  XD

[TheSharpenedPen]

The heart option - well I clued in to what this meant later on - but in the case of Anders, (and given that I was a mage), I thought I was being supportive in identifying with his plight - instead, this was interpreted as romance. This, however, is a recurring problem with the game - the option you select often has little to do with what your character actually says, or what you meant in selecting it.

[Torax]

TheSharpenedPen wrote...

The heart option - well I clued in to what this meant later on - but in the case of Anders, (and given that I was a mage), I thought I was being supportive in identifying with his plight - instead, this was interpreted as romance. This, however, is a recurring problem with the game - the option you select often has little to do with what your character actually says, or what you meant in selecting it.

As did we all. But guess what? In the 2nd play through we learned what that button meant. Just like in your 2nd play through simply don't talk whoever in the brothel bothered you. The game does have a Mature 17+ rating afterall.

Edited to add. I prefer having the clues at least compared to say the Mass Effect series that was far worse. At least Origins you get the jist kind of what you meant. It was ME & ME2 that has your character saying something longer and at times different than you meant them to. Maybe this is just new to you if you haven't played the ME games.

Modifié par Torax, 30 mars 2011 - 08:25 .

[Gamer Ftw]

There is a little booklet that comes with the game that says what the icons mean.
Heart always means flirt it does exactly what it says.

[TheSharpenedPen]

"how does the one who went into a brothal looking to hire a girl take the moral high ground?"

If you read my post, then you would understand that I felt it was somehow quest related. My point isn't that there's a brothel so much (there were actually such things in the past so no objection there), but rather the fact that you choose an encounter for your character with a female elf and then surprise, it turns out to be a male elf, and then surprise, you had sex with him anyway? Come on can we be real for a moment?

[Jaulen]

TheSharpenedPen wrote...

Homophobic - the fear of homogenized milk. No, I disapprove of the lifestyle most certainly, but I'm no more afraid of homosexuals than anyone else. What I object to is my character being forced into homosexual relationships. In the medieval ages, there would be none of this crap going on, and it really kills the authenticity of the game.

Troll.....no one forces you into a homosexual in-game relationship.....gotta pick a heart for that. So that means....you ASKED for it. Although even then, yo ucan always turn them down....(you know, that broken heart icon)

And, I'm supposed to be afraid of homosexuals??? Wow...must have missed that news flash, but then I don't watch Fox News.



It's like you went to a restaurant, and ordered fish, then complained when the waiter brought you fish instead of a steak. Silly man.

[Porphyria]

TheSharpenedPen wrote...

Anyway, it is not my hope to convert a morally depraved generation into rational thinking, and if you like being swept up into homosexual love affairs, and that's what makes a medieval role playing game for you, then enjoy. To say that you can avoid these situations when one of the elf's in the brothel, who appears female is actually male, is somewhat disingenuous. What I see is a lack of choice - as I think I've outlined fairly well.

You do realise that there was what we would today consider to be homosexual behaviour in the middle ages right? I get the impression that you are living in a world where the middle ages was all knights, castles, fair maidens and swooning virgins.

[Jaulen]

TheSharpenedPen wrote...

Anyway, it is not my hope to convert a morally depraved generation into rational thinking, and if you like being swept up into homosexual love affairs, and that's what makes a medieval role playing game for you, then enjoy. To say that you can avoid these situations when one of the elf's in the brothel, who appears female is actually male, is somewhat disingenuous. What I see is a lack of choice - as I think I've outlined fairly well.

Oh no, it's not LACK of choice you're upset with, you only want people to have the choices you THINK they should have.

[TheSharpenedPen]

Anyway, I'm not the only one who feels this way about the game - and believe me I was a die-hard fan of Origins, but I'm one of the few brave enough to just tell it like it is. Most gamers don't use these boards. I don't use these boards myself - I've read through postings a few times, but it was only when I chanced across a posting by Bastal that I got fired up enough to say something.

Most people on these forums are such fan boys (and girls) that the game could propose cannibalistic pedophilia with donkeys thrown in and not bat an eye. The reality is that most of the gamers out there don't post on these forums and that many of them feel as Bastal and I do.

I expected to be on the receiving end of plenty of ire, but really, were these elements of the game necessary and did they contribute or distract from the experience? These are the real questions.

[Fenn_]

TheSharpenedPen wrote...


"how does the one who went into a brothal looking to hire a girl take the moral high ground?"

If you read my post, then you would understand that I felt it was somehow quest related. My point isn't that there's a brothel so much (there were actually such things in the past so no objection there), but rather the fact that you choose an encounter for your character with a female elf and then surprise, it turns out to be a male elf, and then surprise, you had sex with him anyway? Come on can we be real for a moment?

I don't seem to remember a quest that forces you to sleep with one of them.

Modifié par Fenn , 30 mars 2011 - 08:34 .

[UltiPup]

TheSharpenedPen wrote...
 I got involved in one with Anders after telling him something about liking a man with a checkered past - then bammo! Flaming gay city - but even the heterosexual relationships that are available, just scream depraved.

So, you are mad that the little heart icon turned out to be the obvious? You are seriously in a fit that flirting actually leads somewhere? SOUND THE GUARD! LOGIC IS RUINING YOUR LIFE!!!!!

Good god you met a transvestite?! THOSE ARE THE STUFF OF EFFING LEGENDS! You poor poor man, having to go through reality and **** that is quite common. How DARE Bioware actually make character interactions realistic. All the women in the game should be snogging you to glory by now, you GLORIOUS man.






Does anyone else think we have a guy so far into the closet that he found narnia?

[Melca36]

You clicked on the choice to activate it. It just does not happen by itself. 

And by whining about, it only shows your insecurity about your own identity.

[TheSharpenedPen]

"Oh no, it's not LACK of choice you're upset with, you only want people to have the choices you THINK they should have."

That's a load of bull and you know it. Here are two choices I would rather have made for myself: 1. NOT taking Isabella back after having a fling with Zeveren.

2. NOT having sex with the transvestite elf.

3. NOT hitting up Anders for gay action when I simply wanted to express sympathy as a fellow mage.

I'm not trying to rob anyone of choices. I'm illustrating how my choices were robbed in broad day light.

[Jaulen]

Porphyria wrote...

TheSharpenedPen wrote...

Anyway, it is not my hope to convert a morally depraved generation into rational thinking, and if you like being swept up into homosexual love affairs, and that's what makes a medieval role playing game for you, then enjoy. To say that you can avoid these situations when one of the elf's in the brothel, who appears female is actually male, is somewhat disingenuous. What I see is a lack of choice - as I think I've outlined fairly well.

You do realise that there was what we would today consider to be homosexual behaviour in the middle ages right? I get the impression that you are living in a world where the middle ages was all knights, castles, fair maidens and swooning virgins.

Nah, he's just living in some fanatsy world where homosexuals have only existed since the 1970's.....due to the sexual deprevations of the 1960's....you know, all that free love and peace and drugs, man...it like, rent the veil and *pop* abominations known as homosexuals came into being.