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[Golden Owl]

Dave666 wrote...






Especially us in the end. We're supposed to be a more advanced civilization but all this human supremacist crap does make me worry about the state of humanites mental health.  There's far too much of that crap in the world.

Thats the truth.

[Zkyire]

Saphra Deden wrote...

thurmanator692 wrote...

It also kinda ****ed over the rest of the world, and even them a little bit in the end

In what way and why should the British care anyway? The rest of world should only concern them in so far as it effects them. If that "****ed over" aspect doesn't hurt Britain then it isn't anything they need to worry about.

Shame, for them, that they gave up their Empire.

*Irish*


The British Empire was a shame for everyone.

[Markinator_123]

I'm sorry people but in Foreign Relations Might makes Right. All races of the races will always be looking after themselves. We only cooperate to further our own goals. There are no friends in foreign relations there are only mutual interests. I'm sure some of you know this but I think you just need a reminder.

Modifié par Markinator_123, 31 mars 2011 - 02:11 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

Saphra Deden wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

*Irish*


The British Empire was a shame for everyone.

I think your opinion on this is a little biased.

As an American my opinion is a little more objective.

Oh, the irony.

[emmanuelsieyes]

1. No nation can be more powerful than a group of nations.
2. All alliances are temporary.
3. All nations will inevitably act in their own self-interest.

Balance of power. Simple.

No race in ME2 is more powerful than a group of other races. Asari have the economic power. Salarians have the best intelligence and unconventional warfare capabilities. Turians have the best straight-up navy, although the humans are expanding quickly.

Ultimately, no race in ME2 can really rule the entire galaxy. The humans don't have the economic power to maintain control over the entire galaxy. The Turian fleet is powerful, however, they took major damage at the Battle of the Citadel. The major limiting factor for galactic hegemony isn't the size of the military -- it's the ability to maintain such a huge military. That's why the Turians haven't taken over everything - they need trade with the Asari to bankroll that fleet.

Humanity, in ME2, is not yet ready to control the entire galaxy. Knocking off the council and replacing it with a human council isn't a stable equilibrium. It only worked because major races were weakened by Sovereign's attack. In the ME universe, humanity is growing rapidly and expanding colonies. However, we don't have the economic base to seriously take on the Turian Hierarchy (ultimately, we'd be fighting the Turians, bankrolled by the Asari Republics).

[Markinator_123]

thurmanator692 wrote...

Markinator_123 wrote...

I'm sorry people but in Foreign Relations Might makes Right. All races of the races will always be looking after themselves. We only cooperate to further our own goals. There are no friends in foreign relations there are only mutual interests. I'm sure some of you know this but I think you just need a reminder.

And that practice in and of itself is disgusting.

Disappointed there are no true heroes? Let me just tell you this. There are NO true heroes. Heroism is only a matter of perspective. If you get somebody trying to be some type of messiah you will only get a fraud at best the anti-christ at worst.

[Dave666]

Saphra Deden wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

*Irish*


The British Empire was a shame for everyone.

I think your opinion on this is a little biased.

As an American my opinion is a little more objective.

I completely agree with you IEatWhatIPoo (what kind of a bloomin' name is that?) and I'm English.  So am I biased?

[Dave666]

thurmanator692 wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

*Irish*


The British Empire was a shame for everyone.

I think your opinion on this is a little biased.

As an American my opinion is a little more objective.

I completely agree with you IEatWhatIPoo (what kind of a bloomin' name is that?) and I'm English.  So am I biased?

I'm American, and i want to Mass Effectify this before Pacifen locks it lol

Point taken.

[darkiddd]

Saphra Deden wrote...

thurmanator692 wrote...

Well there is, it's just a preception. an abstract one at that. very pointless to try and nail it down

Evil is entirely subjective, which makes it quite worthless as a descriptive term.

You use the same old excuse all tyrants in history have said to justify their actions: "there is no good or evil, there is just power... strong and weak... all is relative... there is no truth but different truths and points of view... blah blah blah..." this is the **** that allows some people to justify the most terrible and selfish actions they can do. And like you they may even feel superior to the rest with their relativism as if they had no limitations, sorry but I can't disagree more, if you kill someone without a reason (a good reason) or rape a girl that's just bad however you want to put it, you may not think it's bad because for you there is no evil or good but even a four year old child would know that is a bad action. Even if you are not a religious person there are things that are bad by nature. Your morals are very atrophied.    

[James2912]

If there is evil than nature is evil. baby lions are killed by male lions because it frees up the female to have kids! God is a sick sociopath isn't he?

Or is the lion evil? Or are both creator and creation evil? idk. So much for mushy morality. 

One new question who decides what is moral? God? Man? 

Modifié par James2912, 31 mars 2011 - 03:15 .

[Golden Owl]

thurmanator692 wrote...


I'm not a naive little uber-paragon looking for the good guys, i know how the world works. It's just stupid is all.

I agree thurmanator...and probably being an antagonist here, but my further thought on that is, 'For such a self proclaimed intelligent species, I'm still waiting for us to prove it, by moving beyond instinctual, primal behaviour'.

[xzxzxz701]

Saphra Deden wrote...

James2912 wrote...

One new question who decides what is moral? God? Man? 

The people who can back up their morality with force.

I find that words and action work just as well, if not better. Force is not always needed.