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[mr_luga]

This is like, the hardest thing for me to decide in ME2 -.- and im back at the point where I need to decide for ME3 again.

I'm curious what you guys have thought about this, and what choices you've made. I'm late to the party I suppose, but when ME2 initially came out, I was far away from these forums, scared by the spoiler monsters

Re-writing them seems like the "good" choice, since you dont destroy them, and it's a paragon option(Which is why I dont enjoy that system, since it shows you these things)

But I can also see it really backfire in ME3, if the re-written geth merge their "thoughts" with the others, and god knows what they might to do everyone else, with a much bigger army to boot <.<

It's hard as fuu, and im curious what you've guys have thought about it

[E-MailA.K.A.Mr.Fox]

what i do is, in one playthru i re-write, in the other i do the other option just to see what i missed. sometimes i just re-do the same choice as my morals prevent me from being a a renegade, even in a game lol.

[AdmiralCheez]

What it really comes down to for me is this: If I were a geth, would I rather be brainwashed into changing the very core of my beliefs, or would I prefer to die with my freedom?

I think most people would rather die than be brainwashed, but none of us are geth. The hard part is putting yourself in their shoes. On one hand, they strive for consensus and desire to move forward, but on the other hand they want to be able to choose their own future.

It puzzles me to this day. Usually, I just flip a coin.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

After meeting Legion, it's hard for me to imagine having more Legions around would be a bad thing. Without that context, I would have been much more hesitant to go with the rewrite.

At the same time, the fact that he can't build a consensus about what to do would make me feel less guilty if I DID decide to blow 'em up. Still, I mostly rewrite.

[Lukertin]

The heretics are only like 5% of the total geth population. killing them v. keeping them alive is unlikely to have any real long-term consequences

[QwertyQwerty]

If you rewrite it will destroy every heretic geth, even the ones outside the station.
While if you blow up the station you will only destroy the ones inside the station,

[mr_luga]

Okay so basicly, everyone is struggling with this as much as I am >.<

Re-writing them seemed to be for some time as a bad choice, since they left of their own will, and own choice, and re-writing them will in a way tell them that, if you think diffrently, we are going to MAKE you think like we do.

And when the re-written geth comes back with all that knowledge of how that felt, it might make all geth everyone kind of.. Not too super happy.

Where as if I destroy them, the geth I meet in the future, will be more like legion for sure. Becouse geth as they are now, seem to be like Legion, and they seem like good people.

If I re-write, who knows what will happend to them

[Almostfaceman]

Saphra Deden wrote...

You can make a very good case for rewriting them, but I always blow them up. I do it because rewriting them allows the geth to get more out of this deal than you are. They are eliminating an enemy and becoming stronger. Humanity however is merely eliminating an enemy. As such, I prefer to keep the score even by destroying the station.

Actually, because of shared experiences, Legion pretty much says they (the Geth) lose out either way.  If re-written, perspectives besides that of "must worship the Old Machines" are not necessarily bad and thus those perspectives would be lost in a re-write. Those perspectives would also be lost if the Heretics are destroyed.  Either way the Geth lose "non-harmful-may-be-beneficial" perspectives that the Heretics have gained.  I re-write them to (hopefully) gain more hardware in the fight against the Reapers.

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Why are you so concerned with what your enemy wants and not with what benefits you?

Because the battle is won, they are completely at my mercy, and no matter which I choose, they will no longer be a threat.

Note that I do not consider geth in general an enemy--they're a neutral entity.  A wasp's nest out in the woods where nobody goes that will only kick your ass if you go out of your way to disturb it.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 30 mars 2011 - 11:55 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

This particular group of geth chose to go to war with us in the previous game, so I'm damned sure taking my chance to make them pay. Also, your attempt to re-integrate them into the orthodox geth may backfire, which is a risk I'm not willing to take.

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

However they may still have an effect on you. There will still be consequences for this decision. Too many lives stand to be effected for you to selfishly sit there and contemplate the decision soley on the basis of which choice will make you feel better.

It's not about how I feel; it's about the millions of conscious minds aboard that station.

What's more selfish, considering the wishes of the people you have complete control over or wondering how they can be an asset to you?

[heretica]

I actually pity the geth. They just wanted to be free, is it that bad? :/ I chose to rewrite them. They could be a powerful ally.

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Your appeal to conscience betrays your true motives here. It's not about the geth or anyone else, it's about you.

No, it's about your own hypocrisy.  Thinking about what someone other than yourself wants is selfish, but doing things so you can get something out if it is selfless?  What the hell, man?

[mr_luga]

Well this isnt helping me out at all. Though I understand why, hard to really know what works, since, we got no idea of knowing until ME3, we dont know how the Geth will react to a re-write.

I see some belive they will help against the reapers, That sounds a bit too optimistic for me.. Me being a pessimist, start to think instead that, when the re-written geth re-integrate with the rest, will share their experience, and maybe convince the rest of the geth that the reapers are right, or that if the reapers are right, maybe the other races arent good, and they should also be "re-written" the way they were.

I dont know, it's hard.

[Bluko]

This is probably the hardest choice in the game. Glad they give you some time to think it over. Since you are literally forced to choose between two arguably bad things. It's also one of the few cases where a Renegade option seems a legitimate thing to do.

To be honest Legion's loyatly mission seems like it might be more impactful then say the Collector base.

I dread to think what the outcome would be if you didn't do Legion's loyalty mission. Cause that would mean all the Geth in ME3 would be servants of the Reapers. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's probably not a good thing. And I really hope Bioware has some severe reprecussions for those who didn't, cause I really don't want to see this boil down into one of those things that doesn't really matter.

I choose rewrite (I like the color blue more) cause to me it seems better to let them live, then destroy them outright. Also I believe Legion said they would still be aware of their past decisions and that they could possibly learn from the experience. Although does raise the question: What if the Heretics decide to become Heretics again? I get a feeling there may still be renegade Geth in ME3. I dunno just wouldn't be Mass Effect if you didn't shoot up some Geth along the way.