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[Discobird]

MarcAntony wrote...
Edited:  Back to the numbers - 350% damage on a crit is insane!  That is basically unlimited, ya?  Its tantalizing to have such a massive crit multiplier because the gear in the game isn't good enough to really take advantage of it.....unless I'm missing something here. 

I'm still only half-way through my first play through, so anything I say is simply conjecture or pulled from your posts - but my gosh, the thought of capping the full 350% multi is hawwwwt.   That means if your normal swings do 50damage, then your crits/backstabs would be hitting for 175/each     0_0        Sexy

It's not as sexy as sounds because backstabs don't multiply all of your damage, just the base damage of the weapon + your bonus damage from attributes =/. So, for example, the bonus damage from Thorn of the Dead Gods and Exploit Weakness don't get multiplied during backstabs.

For those who are curious, the damage to be multiplied--weapon base damage + attribute bonus--ranges from 24 for the dagger/dagger builds up to about 40 for main-hand attacks from the axe/dagger and LS/dagger str builds.

Modifié par Discobird, 03 décembre 2009 - 09:08 .

[MarcAntony]

Ahh ic ic



Making much more sense now. Whenever I hesitate to say I may be missing something.....its because I usually am



=p



Gracias

[EvilDeity]

Revenants use a shield and the skills that come with it. Does that answer your question?

[Jolly Teaparty]

Lemonio wrote...

but a shield should not affect backstabs

Shield users get a talent making it impossible to flank them.

[Arius777]

 For the dagger/dagger cun rogue would it be better to go assassin/bard instead of assassin/duelist? 

Also, how many points will it need in dex/str?

Modifié par Arius777, 04 décembre 2009 - 05:31 .

[Twenynge]

Edit:  Oops, nevermind.  I'm double dipping on the bonus damage from leveling, as it's already included in O.

Modifié par Twenynge, 04 décembre 2009 - 05:56 .

[Haplose]

Lemonio wrote...

Jolly Teaparty wrote...

Lemonio wrote...

but a shield should not affect backstabs

Shield users get a talent making it impossible to flank them.

so i can't backstab bosses with shields?
lame

You can apply Backstab damage to them, you just won't get bonuses to hit them due to positioning, if I understand that correctly. And they aren't that easy to hit.
My Rogue is backstabbing Revenants just fine. Though he is Dex based and I usually have Wynne cast Heroic Offence buff on him when fighting Revenants.

If you're Cun based, I guess your only option is to stuck +hit buffs: Heroic Offence, Song of Courage, Rally and/or Armour debuff effects.

Modifié par Haplose, 04 décembre 2009 - 07:00 .

[Silensfurtim]

i dont have problem backstabbing revenants with my CUN rogue while using Rally, SoC and Stone Aura.

[De Bartman]

double post

Modifié par De Bartman, 04 décembre 2009 - 10:26 .

[De Bartman]

double

Modifié par De Bartman, 04 décembre 2009 - 10:27 .

[De Bartman]

double post. browser is wrecking havoc

Modifié par De Bartman, 04 décembre 2009 - 10:28 .

[De Bartman]

double.

Modifié par De Bartman, 04 décembre 2009 - 10:27 .

[Silensfurtim]

Stealth is important for a CUN rogue because it will be your escape skill. Remember, as CUN rogue, you have lower DEF and ATTACK compared to DEX rogue. Stealth also gives you a free crit attack whenever you go out of stealth with an attack.

[Alistair Crowley]

Is there a particular reason to avoid getting both dex and cun at the same time, keeping them at about similar levels at the later part of the game?



I'd think that balancing between the benefits of the two might be what I want to do, but I'm not sure.

[Silensfurtim]

if you balance a rogue with similar base stats like 40 DEX/ 40 CUN, the DEX stat will be higher later on because of the item stat bonuses. here is my CUN rogue.



i got +20 DEX bonus from items.

Modifié par Silensfurtim, 04 décembre 2009 - 10:49 .

[plecha]

Silensfurtim wrote...

if you balance a rogue with similar base stats like 40 DEX/ 40 CUN, the DEX stat will be higher later on because of the item stat bonuses. here is my CUN rogue.



i got +20 DEX bonus from items.

+20 dex, +18 con and all the other boni? What the hell are you wearing?

[Alistair Crowley]

I am guessing the +12 con amulet (also -3 will and str) and helm of honnleah for +2 to all stats (sp?).



Key to the city also gives +2 to all stats.



The other stuff I don't recognize just from pictures.

[Silensfurtim]

+2 Assassin
+2 Duelist
+2 Helm of Honnleath
+2 Anduril's Blessing
+6 Felon's Coat
+2 Cadash Stompers
+2 Key to the City
+2 Rose Thorn Dagger
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+20 DEX


+2 Helm of Honnleath
+2 Key to the City
+2 Anduril's Blessing
+12 Blood Gorged Amulet
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+18 CON

Modifié par Silensfurtim, 04 décembre 2009 - 01:32 .

[plecha]

Okay. I was a bit taken by surprise by the huge con bonus... :/

[Alistair Crowley]

Blood gorged amulet looks like it was designed for rogues. Willpower is not that important and str does not matter at all once you have already put on all your armor and wielded the weapons you need.



What is Anduril's blessing? A weapon? A ring?

[Silensfurtim]

What is Anduril's blessing? A weapon? A ring?

its a friggin expensive belt from Circle Tower

Modifié par Silensfurtim, 04 décembre 2009 - 02:55 .

[EvilDeity]

Silensfurtim wrote...

if you balance a rogue with similar base stats like 40 DEX/ 40 CUN, the DEX stat will be higher later on because of the item stat bonuses. here is my CUN rogue.



i got +20 DEX bonus from items.

Which buffs did you have to achieve that hit rate? Rally and Heroic Offence whenever possible?