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george martin

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ME2 ends with us in posession of the cerberus and our squad mates, and we know full well that the reapers are OTW soon. You guys think that we'll get to keep most of them? Would seem a bit strange if we have different guys to recruit when we already have everyone we need.  Exception being of course Kaidan or Ashley, they better be in the squad for sensible continuity and storyline. I'm realistic though and know that I won't get what exactly what I would want it will be a new game but it would make some sense.

Thane hopefully won't croak yet from suffocation watching him was like watching Jason Bourne. Tali may or may not become an admiral, she should still be recruitable regardless, especially if we have a romance interest with her she had a thing for shep since ME1, it would be out of character for her to just dump him for admiralty, plus everyone likes her a lot. Jack hopefully won't go postal and kill everyone from her mental instability. Grunt still has plenty of people to kill and his jokes about it. Garrus is best buds with Shepard and needs to keep doing calibrations. Zaeed and Kasumi wouldn't have anything else to do and they add some great benefits. Samara is a biotic god she should stick around, or Morinth. Who could possibly go without the singing Mordin? Jacob and Mirand should still be in it they're trying to save humanity. Legion is awesome and he has a huge interest in it, the Reapers can't be too pleased with him.

What do you guys think?

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The problem is that every single one of them could potentially be dead, except Liara, who has more important things to do than running around and shooting things.

HOWEVER, because of the Mass Effect team's devotion to quality and the fans, as well as for continuity purposes (and the fact that deaths in the SM were rather low, anyway), I think we'll be seeing a few familiar faces here and there.

Browse the forums a bit--this has been discussed to death.

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Actually, I really hope Thane does die. I was actually hoping it would happen in a DLC before ME3. When recruited, he had just months to live and just enough time for the SM. It's done, so I want him dead. I don't want a miraculous cure. I want to see the conclusion of that thread. To a lesser extent, I feel the same way about Jack. We've been told she's suffering from neurological degeneration, and it's killing her. In most cases, the pain causes biotics to weaken, but in her case it is causing her to become stronger. While Jack's expiration date is not as well defined as Thane's, she is still dying. So I would be favorably inclined to her having a seizure and dying early in the game. This isn't because I dislike the characters. I just feel if a character is written with a trait like "going to die soon", the character should die soon.

That being said, I don't really want any new squadmates in ME3. If we must have them, just one or two. While I was one of the people arguing for a new squad after ME, I'm reversing my position now. It isn't that I like the ME2 character better than the original. In the first game, I got really sucked into the story. As much as I liked the characters, it just didn't make sense for most of them to return. Liara was an archeologist in protective custody. She should go back to her work. Wrex was in it for the excitement. When everything was over, he'd go back to being a merc. Tali was on her Pilgrimage. After stopping Saren, she should complete it. Garrus wanted to be a Spectre. I thought he'd do it. I just couldn't see them sticking around given their characters.

With ME2, we spent the entire game building our squad. If we have to waste time doing it in ME3, it will probably suck a great deal of the enjoyment out of the game for me. We're probably going to be gathering allies to fight the Reapers. If we have to retread the recruiting of squadmates too, I think the fighting the Reapers will get shortchanged.

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Mr0TYuH wrote...

when recruited, he had just months to live


Wrong.

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They should definitely keep ALL the recruitable characters in mass effect 2. AND TOTALLY bring in Wrex, Liara and/or Kaiden or Ashley. I mean you're saving the entire galaxy. They should put aside whatever business their doing and go to war with you! That would be so awesome. Also, they should probably draw out the characters more (and by that I mean Kasumi). If you downloaded her, make her a squadmate who you can converse with.

What I would also like to see change is maybe making them more distinct. So many times I found myself choosing squadmates where my reasoning was "I like them..I don't really need them though." If they had maybe one more distinct ability it would be awesome. Grunt, Garrus and Zaeed are so incredibly similar. Maybe include a gun? When someone has an assault rifle and a submachine gun I never understood why switch to a submachine gun when an assault rifle is just as effective.

But really though..please please please bring back the mass effect 2 characters. They are so well thought out and there is emotional attachment with some of them.

Modifié par lightsnow13, 01 avril 2011 - 07:13 .


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One important factor that a lot of people are overlooking when it comes to Wrex becoming a squadmate again(besides story), is that Wreav would also have to be made into one for those who killed off Wrex in ME1. That may or may not factor into Bioware's decision.

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The way I see it, we will either start where arrival ended or a while after.
Or it will pick up a while in. Acually I think they will throw us right into the action more likely with the reapers already invading or just about to start.

So I have a hard time seeing why your current crew would leave you.
Thane will most likely see it all through till the end.
Samara said she would fight injustice, hard time seeing her up and leave now.
Grunt would be stupid to leave seeing as this must be like christmas for him.
Garrus will stay no doubt, he's like the Watson to Shepard.
Miranda and Jacob will stay seeing as how they are humans too.
Mordin seems to get a constant erection out of all the collector stuff, I say he stays.
Legion is great, I hope he decides to stay.
Tali, is brilliant, she better stay.
Jack can go die for all I care.
Kasumi was boring as hell, she can go die aswell.
Zaeed however, I hope he get's some deeper story here.

So unless something happends on the way, I guess we get to keep everyone.

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Seboist wrote...

One important factor that a lot of people are overlooking when it comes to Wrex becoming a squadmate again(besides story), is that Wreav would also have to be made into one for those who killed off Wrex in ME1. That may or may not factor into Bioware's decision.


And Wrex is a leader of his people. He has no time to run around galaxy with Shepard anyway. If we get Grogan army to help us, all we get is to chat with him time to time. :(

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 I only need Garrus back :wub:

Just kidding, I hope Bioware solves this without removing them from ME3. Shepard spent a whole game recruiting those squad members, so they should be there at the end.

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Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

Mr0TYuH wrote...

when recruited, he had just months to live


Wrong.


No, your wrong. Thane tells you that he has only 9-12 months to live.

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Step 1: Spend an entire game recruiting a team and getting the PC emotionally attached to the characters
Step 2: Say that players who lost their squad in ME2 will have a hard time in ME3
Step 3: Cameo them all

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Kekkis wrote...

Seboist wrote...

One important factor that a lot of people are overlooking when it comes to Wrex becoming a squadmate again(besides story), is that Wreav would also have to be made into one for those who killed off Wrex in ME1. That may or may not factor into Bioware's decision.


And Wrex is a leader of his people. He has no time to run around galaxy with Shepard anyway. If we get Grogan army to help us, all we get is to chat with him time to time. :(


Maybe he will get the krogan to all join in the fight? That way he could be an example for his people by joining shepard and leading them to war

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With Arrival retconning things at the last second I have a feeling Bioware will handwave all variables but Loyal and Alive to appease their most stubborn of fans.

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Bamboozalist wrote...

Step 1: Spend an entire game recruiting a team and getting the PC emotionally attached to the characters
Step 2: Say that players who lost their squad in ME2 will have a hard time in ME3
Step 3: Cameo them all

Step 4: Image IPB Problem, fanbase?

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lightsnow13 wrote...

Maybe he will get the krogan to all join in the fight? That way he could be an example for his people by joining shepard and leading them to war


I'd rather see Liara, VS, and Wrex all as NPCs that you regularly chat with and discuss what is going on in the battle against the reapers, like maybe have the Shadow Broker's ship be the hub base for them to come together and focus on fighting the battle. Not only would that give us interaction with them but it would make them feel like important parts of the story rather than just Shepard's squadmates.

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So, there's seven LIs in all. I assume they will all come back. I'd like to see Wrex and Legion again, though as much as I hate to admit it I don't think Wrex will be a squadmate again considering they made it semi canon for him to be dead.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Bamboozalist wrote...

Step 1: Spend an entire game recruiting a team and getting the PC emotionally attached to the characters
Step 2: Say that players who lost their squad in ME2 will have a hard time in ME3
Step 3: Cameo them all

Step 4: Image IPB Problem, fanbase?


I laughed harder than I should have.

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Bamboozalist wrote...

I'd rather see Liara, VS, and Wrex all as NPCs that you regularly chat with and discuss what is going on in the battle against the reapers, like maybe have the Shadow Broker's ship be the hub base for them to come together and focus on fighting the battle. Not only would that give us interaction with them but it would make them feel like important parts of the story rather than just Shepard's squadmates.

This is actually a pretty good idea, but wouldn't work for everyone.  Some people make good allies (information brokers, warlords), while others make good in-field specialists (assassins, soldiers).

I'd love to see a little bit of both.  Just... let's not sideline all seventeen possible squadmates to small and pitiful cameos, okay?

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Why stop at just Liara, VS, and Wrex? why not make the killables get the same treatment? After all, they aren't in every save while Liara and VS are yet you would punish Liara/VS fans and reward the killables Fans?

Talk about eatting your ill gotten cake and than stealing Ice Cream from an Orphan!

Modifié par Elite Midget, 01 avril 2011 - 07:38 .


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Honestly if they wipe out my team and make me recruit a whole new one I'm going to be pissed as all hell.

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More pissed than Liara/VS Fans would be if they get shafted again while the Killables still come back despite them having no plot armor compared to Liara/VS?

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Elite Midget wrote...

Why stop at just Liara, VS, and Wrex? why not make the killables get the same treatment? After all, they aren't in every save while Liara and VS are yet you would punish Liara/VS fans and reward the killables Fans?

Talk about eatting your ill gotten cake and than stealing Ice Cream from an Orphan!


I was unaware making Liara, the VS, and Wrex actually important to the story and regularly appearing through the game punished their fans...

oh wait "Elite Midget" I forgot logic no longer applies.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Bamboozalist wrote...

Step 1: Spend an entire game recruiting a team and getting the PC emotionally attached to the characters
Step 2: Say that players who lost their squad in ME2 will have a hard time in ME3
Step 3: Cameo them all


Step 4: http://revuh.nl/foru...1/trollface.gif Problem, fanbase?



I laughed harder than I should have.

LMFAO

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

I'd love to see a little bit of both.  Just... let's not sideline all seventeen possible squadmates to small and pitiful cameos, okay?


ME1 squad - Story important, regularly appears through out the game, tons of interaction
ME2 squad - Your Squad.

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Bamboozalist wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Why stop at just Liara, VS, and Wrex? why not make the killables get the same treatment? After all, they aren't in every save while Liara and VS are yet you would punish Liara/VS fans and reward the killables Fans?

Talk about eatting your ill gotten cake and than stealing Ice Cream from an Orphan!


I was unaware making Liara, the VS, and Wrex actually important to the story and regularly appearing through the game punished their fans...

oh wait "Elite Midget" I forgot logic no longer applies.


Oh wait, it's Bamboo! Of course I should have expected such a weak response.

It's simple. You want Liara/VS, despite their Plot Armor, to stay out of the Squad while you're all for bringing back the killables instead of doing the same thing for them. Which I add has 0 merit when you factor in that Liara/VS has plot armor and the killables don't.

So why the double standard, Bamboo? Do you enjoy demanding the return of the killables, instead of making them important NPCs, while demanding that Liara/VS get regulated to NPC status with no Squaddie return chance despite their plot armor?

Than again, you were always the type that only thought about what 'you' want and not what would be something 'everyone' would be able to accept. Which is fair treatment for all Squaddies not biased treatment for your favorites.