Something else I love: Aveline and Donnic. Pretty much everything about them.
Modifié par Deztyn, 01 avril 2011 - 03:51 .
Modifié par Deztyn, 01 avril 2011 - 03:51 .
Modifié par ZombiePowered, 01 avril 2011 - 06:30 .
David Gaider wrote...
From my perspective, I think there's a lot to work on and improve, and certainly we've gotten a lot of criticism from some corners-- much of it deserved, some of it not. We're perfectly capable of criticizing our own work as well (there's not a game I've put out that I'm not painfully aware of the flaws in prior to it shipping), but it's nice to also see that there were parts that some people really enjoyed as well. That is also good to learn from.
So thank you. Interesting read.
LyletheBloody wrote...
Out of curiosity, what criticism has struck you as fair and what has struck you as unfair?
Modifié par David Gaider, 02 avril 2011 - 06:21 .
David Gaider wrote...
LyletheBloody wrote...
Out of curiosity, what criticism has struck you as fair and what has struck you as unfair?
To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure that's a conversation I'm willing to have just yet. We're still in the process of our own post-mortem examinations of what went right and what went wrong, but there are some people that simply wouldn't want to hear that we think anything went right and would interpret even the suggestion of such as us completely ignoring what went wrong.
Which is fair enough. If I were to point at any of the "unfair" criticism it would probably that which paints DA2 only in terms of what someone wanted it to be rather than what we intended to be, which is also fair-- but there's also a lot of emotion involved, and thus insofar as criticism goes I'll simply say that we're reading it and aware of it but it might be a while before we start discussing it.
It's not my intention to draw this thread into a focus for negative comments, however. Just to thank the posters for offering constructive positive feedback as well.
David Gaider wrote...
To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure that's a conversation I'm willing to have just yet. We're still in the process of our own post-mortem examinations of what went right and what went wrong,
ZombiePowered wrote...
Companions were fantastic--I even liked Sebastian, and I'm normally not one to like the incredibly religious. He surprised me though in his thoughtfulness, and how truly conflicted he was over his commitments to Starkhaven and to the Chantry. He was a refreshing change from the legions of Chantry-affiliated pricks.
I especially liked Varric--I hope he appears in future stories with Hawke, be they DLC or expansions. He's so very complicated, but in control of and at peace with those complications, while keeping simple on the surface. He makes for an excellent best friend/most trusted companion. I hope we get more of him. He's such a nuanced character that I think he still has much to offer.
Anders was the best, however. His betrayal was so... unexpected. I legitimately felt betrayed for the first time in a game ever. I didn't see it coming, and I was horrified and astonish at what he did. It was superb, and I felt legitimate remorse as I killed him, even though I knew it needed to be done, that my old friend from Awakening was really no longer himself, that he had ceased to be when he fused with Justice.
I actually felt that one thing Bioware did really well in DA2 was forcing you to reconsider your opinion on many issues. All through the game I kept siding with the mages, even as blood mages ran rampant all over the place. I just convinced myself they were rogue elements, a small minority blown out of proportion. But when I finally saw Orsino, the man I had more or less signed a death warrant for myself and my companions in order to protect, give in to demons and blood magic and justify every accusation I was trying to refute, I had to abandon my stance. I walked into the Gallows courtyard ready to admit Meredith had been right all along, only to find she had been corrupted by something just as bad as the blood magic she so feared. I walked out of that whole city in disgust of everyone except Cullen. The lyrium-induced insanity was a bit of a (unneccesary) cop-out, mostly because it just wasn't hinted at enough. There should have been a quest or two to try and track down the purchaser of the idol. Still, I really liked that the events at the Gallows just jaded me against both groups, that they left a bad taste in my mouth. The cinematics there could have been more polished, and the two betrayals should have been foreshadowed a bit more, but the writing was good, and I loved that Orsino and Meredith in their extreme hate of each other became everything they were fighting to destroy--that their love of their own principles simply became hatred and paranoia of each other and led each to become just as bad as the other. It was a solid ending for their plot line--I just wish I'd known them when they were still fighting for the noble principles they once stood for.
It's not my intention to draw this thread into a focus for negative comments, however. Just to thank the posters for offering constructive positive feedback as well.
Modifié par Bible Doctor, 02 avril 2011 - 08:12 .
David Gaider wrote...
LyletheBloody wrote...
Out of curiosity, what criticism has struck you as fair and what has struck you as unfair?
To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure that's a conversation I'm willing to have just yet. We're still in the process of our own post-mortem examinations of what went right and what went wrong, but there are some people that simply wouldn't want to hear that we think anything went right and would interpret even the suggestion of such as us completely ignoring what went wrong.
Which is fair enough. If I were to point at any of the "unfair" criticism it would probably that which paints DA2 only in terms of what someone wanted it to be rather than what we intended to be, which is also fair-- but there's also a lot of emotion involved, and thus insofar as criticism goes I'll simply say that we're reading it and aware of it but it might be a while before we start discussing it.
It's not my intention to draw this thread into a focus for negative comments, however. Just to thank the posters for offering constructive positive feedback as well.
Modifié par Torax, 02 avril 2011 - 11:09 .