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[Wolfva2]

I had wondered why, with Merril living with me as my mistress for several years, we had no children. "Is she barren? Maybe I took one to many thwacks to the nuts?" It just didn't seem to make much sense that there wasn't a child born at some time. Of course, that could be a game changing dynamic, and how would each character respond if the parent? Isabelle, for instance? Can you see HER as a mother?

I think the addition of a child, if done properly, would make for an extremely complex and much larger game then we ended up with. Fact is, I think we'd still be waiting for it to come out <LOL>. Here's to hoping Bioware does it sometime in the future.

[Sesshomaru47]

No I dislike children in reality, why should my games be infested with the little buggers too?

[Foolsfolly]

Wolfva2 wrote...

I had wondered why, with Merril living with me as my mistress for several years, we had no children. "Is she barren? Maybe I took one to many thwacks to the nuts?" It just didn't seem to make much sense that there wasn't a child born at some time. Of course, that could be a game changing dynamic, and how would each character respond if the parent? Isabelle, for instance? Can you see HER as a mother?

I think the addition of a child, if done properly, would make for an extremely complex and much larger game then we ended up with. Fact is, I think we'd still be waiting for it to come out <LOL>. Here's to hoping Bioware does it sometime in the future.

Isabela is a bit hard seeing as mother, except for that one tiny bit where you give her the fertility symbol gift thingy. I think she's actually sad that she doesn't have a child (alternate interpretation being she's sad because she's infertile).

Merrill would be a devoted mother, she loves her clan maybe too much. Anders would still blow up the Chantry in part because he has a child who may be a mage (thus it makes his action a little more noble, but not much more), Fenris, to be honest I haven't romanced yet (only three playthroughs give me time) so I have no idea but with the non-romance dialogue options he seems to be lost not knowing what to do now that he's not running. Starting a family to replace the one he no longer has may be cathartic.

But Isabela would be a different type of mother wouldn't she? Maybe Hawke's more of the parent in that couple. Who says every couple has to be the same with a child dynamtic? And there's always Aunt Aveline to help out...when she's not all business she's very protective of those close to her.

But yes, it would have some big character changes but what's wrong with that? And the child'd only be around for the rather small third act since you can't really get with a character until Act 2.

[Altima Darkspells]

No, because everyone related to Hawke either ends up missing or dead.

Or they're a jerk. Who wants to bring another jerk into Thedas.

[sammcl]

I'm not sure this could be done effectively without forcing some horrible gameplay. Bethany works because she can come with you and weigh in on conversations. A child has no place doing what Hawke does so your interaction would have to be limited to your home and I just don't think you would feel a connection to a kid that isn't with you constantly. Adults are great because they have a mature mindset and can express their opinions on the complex political issues in Kirkwall. The kid wouldn't have that luxury.

Interesting idea but I can't see it working, Bethany or mage Hawke are sufficient to personalise the mage/templar issue for Hawke. But that doesn't really matter in the long run either, the decision Hawke has to make is much bigger than just his immediate family members.

[MICHELLE7]

To the OP...I think it would have been a great idea storywise...especially if you had chosen Anders as your LI for obvious reasons or even Fenris (being the magic hater he is) just to see how that would affect Hawkes and the LI's character and decisions but programming wise it would be a pill in my opinion and at the rate they are cranking out the games these days it probably would have added a whole slew of extra bugs I could do without. Great idea storywise though...maybe something for the fanfic crowd.

[Lithuasil]

It's quite the interesting Idea, if the game aimed for this kind of dynamic - though it might conflict a little with the whole "everyone is bi" thing, because it would only work effectively in fertile relationships.

[yangthecat]

I found myself wondering about what kind of birth control Hawke was using to not end up with a kid after so much time.
Having a child in the game is a really interesting idea and could add a lot to the story/immersion, if done well.
But then I remember my kids in the Fable series and shudder. It can get awfully annoying to be hounded for gifts every time you go home, lol. If the kid becomes nothing more than an object standing around in your house repeating the same few lines when you click on them, it adds nothing to the experience. So if they ever do add children to your character's life in the future, I hope they put more thought into it than the Fable series does.

[sheppard7]

Too bad the pandering prevents this unless Bioware could somehow explain a sperm/egg donor in that time period if you played Hawke to be gay/lesbian. And they really cut corners already with the story as a whole with "how did that happen" type things showing up all over the place. They couldn't use adoption either because then it wouldn't be Hawke's blood for this idea to work.

This idea would normally be something I'd support but with the fact it would open more holes in this story than what is already there, I can't.

[Bfler]

If I remember right in DA childs of an human and an elf are human. In case of Merrill this would be an approach for some story-wise trouble with her clan.

Modifié par Bfler, 31 mars 2011 - 12:53 .

[Dark Specie]

I like the idea, but the way things worked in DA2, Bioware would likely have seen to that your child died in childbirth, or was killed in the Templar/Mage confict or something...

It may be an idea for later games though - if we can have a girlfriend who moves in with us, why not possibly a child as well? The boy/girl would only have a few rare appearences though, and would, looks-wise, be based on the PC's girlfriend/boyfriend - except perhaps the eyecolour, which would be the same as the PC's.

They would have to see to that it's hard to get the child by mistake though (the choice to have a child and/or whether to use some kind of protection or not), to please the naysayers.

[Alexein]

"Congrats hawke!..... Who's the father?"

[Talladarr]

Zevran x]

[Northern Sun]

No Hawkespawn please.

[MKDAWUSS]

Given the nature of this game, if Hawke had a child, you'd've seen that child die...

Or, you'd've been railroaded into having an abortion and seeing the forums ablaze...

Modifié par MKDAWUSS, 31 mars 2011 - 01:34 .

[Maria Caliban]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Not to mention that with how the rest of Hawke's family gets treated the kid would have a life expectancy of about two main quests.

This.

When BioWare shows interest in a family dynamic that doesn't end in separation and death, I'll be all for the PC having a kid.

[Dark Specie]

Maria Caliban wrote...
When BioWare shows interest in a family dynamic that doesn't end in separation and death, I'll be all for the PC having a kid.

Amen to that.

[highcastle]

I suppose I don't mind this suggestion if it's optional. But I don't want a child forced on us. It's probably just stupid personal reasons. I'm at that age and of that gender where people who don't know me nearly well enough to ask these questions start saying, "Hey, are you thinking of starting a family soon?" I suppose I just don't want my video game asking me the same question.

Plus, if you bring a kid into this, you have to figure out how it work for those of us who choose the same-sex romances. The only way I think it could work for everybody would be with a found kid (like the child in Lothering, instead of bringing him to the Chantry, the Warden scoops him up to look after him himself). But even then I foresee more complications than uses.

Again, if it's optional, I don't object. I don't want to quash anybody's choices when that's exactly what people like do when it comes to same-sex romances. If it's there for those who want it but it's not forced on you, great. I think it could add another level of connection for those who are so inclined. I personally have no stake in it, but mine is not the only opinion out there.

[Talladarr]

highcastle wrote...
Plus, if you bring a kid into this, you have to figure out how it work for those of us who choose the same-sex romances. The only way I think it could work for everybody would be with a found kid (like the child in Lothering, instead of bringing him to the Chantry, the Warden scoops him up to look after him himself). But even then I foresee more complications than uses. .

Hey, I did did a relationship with Isabella (you know, being all lsebain like) and when we ran into Zevran thr three of us had the most intriguing little fun time after will killed those Crows ;D

[jaybee93]

Northern Sun wrote...

No Hawkespawn please.

And now all I can hear in my head is Alistair saying, "Hawkespawn, straight ahead!"

[ToJKa1]

Funny how this keeps popping up, several times before the game was released, and now after it too. Also in Bethesda's forums for Skyrim. I can see how it possibly could enhance the story, but i doubt it could be implemented in a way that would not feel fake and/or cheap (especially by Bethesda, writing is not their strong suite, to put it politely ).

[Lithuasil]

Writing *is* one of bethesdas strongest suits, they're just dam good at hiding it :|

[Augustei]

Yeah having a child would be awesome.. need to continue on the Hawke legacy man!

[AedenHawke]

I can never imagine Hawke or Shepard being dads, i get goosebumps when doing so lol.

[Dragoniter]

We tried soooo HARD, but Fenris didn´t get pregnant. Maybe it´s the lyrium.... :innocent: