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Question: Should Hawke Have Had A Child?


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#126
Bayz

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Saw the topic title and reminded me of Princess Maker...

I would actually raise a little bad ass Hawke, problem is my LI is Isabela and AFAIK she is well..."barren" (according to the wiki)

Also my female warden would give children to Alistair if the taint don't mess with that (which I don't think it does as apparently it doesn't with males or so Alistair assumes). Having thousands of bastards affirms the Mac Tir blood line in Ferelden for ages...

Yeah I kinda like the idea of having the Amell\\Hawke genepool spreading all about Thedas (completely missing the point).

Modifié par Bayz, 31 mars 2011 - 11:38 .


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Nukenin

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No.

#128
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Just Hawke aging kind of bothers me. I don't play video games to age, have children or go to work. I play video games to kick some darkspawn ass and sometimes to bed pirate ladies. That's where I draw the line anyway.

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Hawke should have many children.  He is a great hero

Care must be taken to keep the implementation plausible and light.  It will not do to be changing the diapers of a doll every day before you step out your front door.

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Why? So they can die like the rest of Hawke's family?

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Yes. This should have happened. I think Bioware forgets that sex sometimes leads to babies, even when dark, evil rituals -aren't- performed. 

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Satyricon331

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Such a game wouldn't interest me in the slightest. There is nothing that could salvage such a game for me.

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mikx82

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oh! too bad for you satyr. sorry for our noise..

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Dan-mac RI

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It would have been interesting sure. Fortunately, I have only romanced the mages which means they can train him/her. Though I must admit if your choice in mentors is a blood mage(I don't think blood magic is evil just dirty) and a more friendly than average abomination then it's a tougher decision but I would still make the same choice; learn from your father/mother.(or both, though I haven't played mage Hawke yet)

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Auroras

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I adore this idea. :D

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The Angry One

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The problems for me is that for a female in DA2 the options for a father are an abomination or an elf.
I don't want the offspring of an abomination, thank you and I like elves but the whole elf + human = human thing irritates me no end.

Modifié par The Angry One, 01 avril 2011 - 03:35 .


#137
BubbleDncr

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Lord Gremlin wrote...

Liliandra Nadiar wrote...

Lord Gremlin wrote...

LadyVaJedi wrote...

If a female hawke romanced Anders and didnt kill he does make statement about having children.

I don't remember that...


Here

Thanks, now I remember that moment.


Yea....guess my Warden forgot to mention to Anders how its hard for Warden's to have kids...oops.
*adds that to the list of reasons Anders should hate me for making him a Warden*

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Satyricon331

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mikx82 wrote...
oh! too bad for you satyr. sorry for our noise..


There's no need to be so touchy.  He asked for opinions, and I gave mine.  I'm not judging people for thinking it'd be fun.  So please, grow up before you have a kid. 

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The Angry One

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BubbleDncr wrote...

Yea....guess my Warden forgot to mention to Anders how its hard for Warden's to have kids...oops.
*adds that to the list of reasons Anders should hate me for making him a Warden*


Maybe he knows and thinks Justice will help.
Yeah I don't have a clue how that would work, but still.

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Satyricon331 wrote...

Such a game wouldn't interest me in the slightest. There is nothing that could salvage such a game for me.


Red Dead Redemption, you have a wife and kid. Never annoying, it's purpose for Marston's actions, and even though they're in a small portion of the game you feel like they're a family. I never got that feeling with the Hawkes. There's no sibling banter between the three....probably because they're two before you know it.

It doesn't have to be the Fable style children, Fable doesn't do character they do....The Sims as NPCs. You give the kid a toy gun, give him a thumbs up, and then every 10 minutes 100 dollars disappears from your wallet to keep everyone happy. That's tedious and impersonal.

The problem with DA2 is that the story does not affect Hawke. Mage/Templar fight means nothing if everyone's dead, and even if Bethany/Carver's still alive why do you care? Because the game says they're your sibling? The game didn't even give you a "Tell your Sibling Your Mom Just Died" moment. The closest was with Warden Bethany and all she said was, "I know."

Real gripping emotional moment there. I mean the woman that sacrficed so much to keep you hidden for 18 years of your life died and you don't give a third word?

The child is just one suggestion on how to keep the story personal and have the Templar/Mage fight mean something to Hawke. Another, even easier, option would have been to keep the siblings around and make them full-fledged characters. Then when the moment happens the Hawke family's divided and Hawke has a problem on what to support.

It would have been nice.

Instead the arugment feels more aimed at players who played the first game. It's like a rebuttal because it was so easy to support mages in the first game. You had one mad man who tortured and forced people to become Abominations and then a bunch of fully armed, trained, and armored grown men hiding and talking about genocide instead of doing their jobs.

Who do you support? There's also the fact that letting blood mages go or helping them in the Mage board quests never turns on you. Just try to find a moment where helping a Blood Mage doesn't bite you in the ass in the second game.

It's decent for the player, but...Hawke? It means nothing to Hawke and it easily could have, Hawke's family have mages in it. They're hiding in the boring wilderness because of that fact. But by the time Act 2 comes around the only way the game can bring up the issue and make it personal is to have a mage kill your mom.

Feels like there were better ways to make this issue personal to Hawke for a much longer period of the game. Something that makes the fight mean something so the ending had weight.