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[Almostfaceman]

leonia42 wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

piemanz wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

piemanz wrote...

No, the system alliance represents earth and all human colonies.

Source?

In any case, EARTH does NOT represent the SYSTEMS ALLIANCE.

No but the sytems alliance is a human alliance and Earth IS the human homeworld.

Yes, and Palaven is the Turian homeworld. So what? When a certain Turian spectre went rogue, he was tried in absentia on the Citadel, and considered to be a Humanity's problem.

So, by that, Shepard should be tried on the Citadel and the verdict should be: Go, Batarians, catch 'em!

In other words, homeworld or not, Earth is irrelevant.

There would have been no problem at all with him being tried on Palaven.  None.  Nada.  Ziltch.

He was a Spectre, his actions HAD to be tried by the Council because he was no longer a member of the turian Hierarchy, just as Shepard ceased to be an active member of the System Alliance when he became a Spectre. It would have made ZERO sense for him to be tried on Palaven for something that had NOTHING to do with the turians. If he was acting on behalf of the the Hieararchy, sure he could have been held accountable there.. after the Council had there go.

Not true at all.  The Council could easily meet on Palaven and try Saren.  They're all part of the same big happy family.  If you can pull the law out of your butt that says a Spectre HAS to be tried on the Citadel, I'll be happy to concede the point.  I say it's just as valid to try the turian on his homeworld as it is on the Citadel.

[AtreiyaN7]

The wiki does say:

The Systems Alliance is the representative body of Earth and all human colonies in Citadel space. Backed by Earth's most powerful nations, the Alliance has become humanity's military, exploratory, and economic spearhead. While the Alliance is relatively new to the galactic community, it has already made a name for itself, gaining humans an embassy on the Presidium. The Alliance is governed by a parliament based at Arcturus Station; the station also serves as the Alliance's capital.

The SA represents Earth's and humanity's interests. While Arcturus Station might be the current Alliance capital, I see nothing wrong with holding the trial on Earth. I mean, it IS our homeworld where the nations that came together to form the SA are based. Even if Earth no longer has a major voice in SA policy-making (beats me), I would guess that it has some symbolic importance as the birthplace of humanity. Why not have this show trial at the heart of our empire? *shrug* I don't really care either way where the trial is held, but holding it on Earth wouldn't really ruin things for me.

EDIT: darn typo - grr!

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 01 avril 2011 - 06:36 .

[Almostfaceman]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

The wiki does say:

The Systems Alliance is the representative body of Earth and all human colonies in Citadel space. Backed by Earth's most powerful nations, the Alliance has become humanity's military, exploratory, and economic spearhead. While the Alliance is relatively new to the galactic community, it has already made a name for itself, gaining humans an embassy on the Presidium. The Alliance is governed by a parliament based at Arcturus Station; the station also serves as the Alliance's capital.

The SA represents Earth's and humanity's interests. While Arcturus Station might be the current Alliance capital, I see nothing wrong with holding the trial on Earth. I mena, it IS our homeworld where the nations that came together to form the SA are based. Even if Earth no longer has a major voice in SA policy-making (beats me), I would guess that it has some symbolic importance as the birthplace of humanity. Why not have this show trial at the heart of our empire? *shrug* I don't really care either way where the trial is held, but holding it on Earth wouldn't really ruin things for me.

Exactly. 

[GreenDragon37]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

The wiki does say:

The Systems Alliance is the representative body of Earth and all human colonies in Citadel space. Backed by Earth's most powerful nations, the Alliance has become humanity's military, exploratory, and economic spearhead. While the Alliance is relatively new to the galactic community, it has already made a name for itself, gaining humans an embassy on the Presidium. The Alliance is governed by a parliament based at Arcturus Station; the station also serves as the Alliance's capital.

The SA represents Earth's and humanity's interests. While Arcturus Station might be the current Alliance capital, I see nothing wrong with holding the trial on Earth. I mena, it IS our homeworld where the nations that came together to form the SA are based. Even if Earth no longer has a major voice in SA policy-making (beats me), I would guess that it has some symbolic importance as the birthplace of humanity. Why not have this show trial at the heart of our empire? *shrug* I don't really care either way where the trial is held, but holding it on Earth wouldn't really ruin things for me.

That's what we're trying to say! All of these people just keep making doom prophecies about stuff being "ruined" because of  (insert item here). It's silly.

[piemanz]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

The wiki does say:

The Systems Alliance is the representative body of Earth and all human colonies in Citadel space. Backed by Earth's most powerful nations, the Alliance has become humanity's military, exploratory, and economic spearhead. While the Alliance is relatively new to the galactic community, it has already made a name for itself, gaining humans an embassy on the Presidium. The Alliance is governed by a parliament based at Arcturus Station; the station also serves as the Alliance's capital.

The SA represents Earth's and humanity's interests. While Arcturus Station might be the current Alliance capital, I see nothing wrong with holding the trial on Earth. I mena, it IS our homeworld where the nations that came together to form the SA are based. Even if Earth no longer has a major voice in SA policy-making (beats me), I would guess that it has some symbolic importance as the birthplace of humanity. Why not have this show trial at the heart of our empire? *shrug* I don't really care either way where the trial is held, but holding it on Earth wouldn't really ruin things for me.

No!, damn you and your facts!, it must be a plot hole!

Modifié par piemanz, 01 avril 2011 - 05:11 .

[Leonia]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Yeah, yeah, keep trying to sell that one.  If I'm interested in the Asari - I want to see the Asari homeworld. It's important.  It's the symbolic capital of their race.  Just like if I'm an Asari, I'd want to see Earth.  It's the captial of humanity.  It's where we're from.  You can't down-play that importance, sorry.

I'm not downplaying it dude. There is a difference between a symbolic capital (Earth) and an actual, functioning political capital (Arcturus Station). Where are the laws passed? Where are they enforced? Earth is important sure, but that doesn't mean the rules are made there. We're talking about a trial and judgement by laws here.

[upsettingshorts]

Regardless of where it is held, I will refuse to acknowledge it at every opportunity. As my Shepard has accepted reinstatement into the Spectres, the Systems Alliance does not have jurisdiction to prosecute. Taking part in the trial would set a precedent that opens all Spectres up to government prosecution, which is antithetical to their mandate.

The Council and the Council alone sits in judgment of the Spectres and their actions.

[Zulu_DFA]

leonia42 wrote...

And the Arcturus Station codex entry:

Arcturus Station is the gateway to Sol, a 5-kilometer diameter "Stanford Torus"-type space station at the trailing Lagrange point of the gas giant Themis. Construction on Arcturus Station began in 2151 and concluded in 2162. It was inaugurated in 2156, and has served as the military and political headquarters of the Systems Alliance from the First Contact War until the present.

When humanity activated the Charon Mass Relay in 2149, it led to Arcturus, 36 light years from Sol, Earth's sun. Arcturus is the third brightest star seen from Earth. It is an ancient red giant from the generation born before Sol. Its worlds are either gas giants or ice chunks. While some rocky debris exists, the metal content is 25% lower than normal. To build Arcturus Station, metallic asteroids were towed through the mass relays to the construction site. Many of these asteroids remain near the station, their mined out areas home to transient populations.

The expense of bringing construct materials into the system was acceptable due to its strategic value. With three primary mass relays in addition to the secondary one to Sol, Arcturus is a major communications and military chokepoint. The Alliance 1st Fleet is based in Arcturus, where it can guard the gates to Sol and react to incursions in the three connected clusters. The Station also hosts the Systems Alliance Parliament and the Systems Alliance Military general headquarters. Its permanent population is approximately 45,000.

Arcturus is actually from the galactic halo, one of a cluster of 52 stars that are "crashing through" the disc of the galaxy. In a billion years, Arcturus will be sailing through the depths of extragalactic dark space.

Humanity is ran by the System Alliance, which is based on Arcturus Station.

Quoted for emphasis.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 01 avril 2011 - 05:26 .

[Almostfaceman]

leonia42 wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Yeah, yeah, keep trying to sell that one.  If I'm interested in the Asari - I want to see the Asari homeworld. It's important.  It's the symbolic capital of their race.  Just like if I'm an Asari, I'd want to see Earth.  It's the captial of humanity.  It's where we're from.  You can't down-play that importance, sorry.

I'm not downplaying it dude. There is a difference between a symbolic capital (Earth) and an actual, functioning political capital (Arcturus Station). Where are the laws passed? Where are they enforced? Earth is important sure, but that doesn't mean the rules are made there. We're talking about a trial and judgement by laws here.

So, you're saying I have to go to Washington D.C. every time I violate federal law? LOL, nope.  The Earth granted the Alliance its power, and the laws passed are valid and enforceable in all Alliance territory, which includes Earth.  Are you trying to tell me they don't have Alliance courtrooms on Earth?  

[GreenDragon37]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Regardless of where it is held, I will refuse to acknowledge it at every opportunity. As my Shepard has accepted reinstatement into the Spectres, the Systems Alliance does not have jurisdiction to prosecute. Taking part in the trial would set a precedent that opens all Spectres up to government prosecution, which is antithetical to their mandate.

The Council and the Council alone sits in judgment of the Spectres and their actions.

The problem with this is that the Council will most likely strip you of your status. You were treading thin ice when you working for Cerberus. The Council gave you back the status in "good faith. " Now you blew up a Relay which destroyed a whole star system, murdering over 300,000 people and causing an intergalactic crisis!? Nah, you're screwed buddy.

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 01 avril 2011 - 05:16 .

[Leonia]

Almostfaceman wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Yeah, yeah, keep trying to sell that one.  If I'm interested in the Asari - I want to see the Asari homeworld. It's important.  It's the symbolic capital of their race.  Just like if I'm an Asari, I'd want to see Earth.  It's the captial of humanity.  It's where we're from.  You can't down-play that importance, sorry.

I'm not downplaying it dude. There is a difference between a symbolic capital (Earth) and an actual, functioning political capital (Arcturus Station). Where are the laws passed? Where are they enforced? Earth is important sure, but that doesn't mean the rules are made there. We're talking about a trial and judgement by laws here.

So, you're saying I have to go to Washington D.C. every time I violate federal law? LOL, nope.  The Earth granted the Alliance its power, and the laws passed are valid and enforceable in all Alliance territory, which includes Earth.  Are you trying to tell me they don't have Alliance courtrooms on Earth?  

So for non-Earthborn Shepards, where would they go to be prosecuted?

[mesmerizedish]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Regardless of where it is held, I will refuse to acknowledge it at every opportunity. As my Shepard has accepted reinstatement into the Spectres, the Systems Alliance does not have jurisdiction to prosecute. Taking part in the trial would set a precedent that opens all Spectres up to government prosecution, which is antithetical to their mandate.

The Council and the Council alone sits in judgment of the Spectres and their actions.

Yeah, but Asari aren't female.

[Zulu_DFA]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

piemanz wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

piemanz wrote...

No, the system alliance represents earth and all human colonies.

Source?

In any case, EARTH does NOT represent the SYSTEMS ALLIANCE.

No but the sytems alliance is a human alliance and Earth IS the human homeworld.

Yes, and Palaven is the Turian homeworld. So what? When a certain Turian spectre went rogue, he was tried in absentia on the Citadel, and considered to be a Humanity's problem.

So, by that, Shepard should be tried on the Citadel and the verdict should be: Go, Batarians, catch 'em!

In other words, homeworld or not, Earth is irrelevant.

The Council ran the Saren trial, not the Hierarchy. It made since to hold it at the Citadel. He was a Council Spectre, and he answered to the Council. The Council isn't trying Shep, Humanity is.

"Humanity" can not try anyone.

[GreenDragon37]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

And the Arcturus Station codex entry:

Arcturus Station is the gateway to Sol, a 5-kilometer diameter "Stanford Torus"-type space station at the trailing Lagrange point of the gas giant Themis. Construction on Arcturus Station began in 2151 and concluded in 2162. It was inaugurated in 2156, and has served as the military and political headquarters of the Systems Alliance from the First Contact War until the present.

When humanity activated the Charon Mass Relay in 2149, it led to Arcturus, 36 light years from Sol, Earth's sun. Arcturus is the third brightest star seen from Earth. It is an ancient red giant from the generation born before Sol. Its worlds are either gas giants or ice chunks. While some rocky debris exists, the metal content is 25% lower than normal. To build Arcturus Station, metallic asteroids were towed through the mass relays to the construction site. Many of these asteroids remain near the station, their mined out areas home to transient populations.

The expense of bringing construct materials into the system was acceptable due to its strategic value. With three primary mass relays in addition to the secondary one to Sol, Arcturus is a major communications and military chokepoint. The Alliance 1st Fleet is based in Arcturus, where it can guard the gates to Sol and react to incursions in the three connected clusters. The Station also hosts the Systems Alliance Parliament and the Systems Alliance Military general headquarters. Its permanent population is approximately 45,000.

Arcturus is actually from the galactic halo, one of a cluster of 52 stars that are "crashing through" the disc of the galaxy. In a billion years, Arcturus will be sailing through the depths of extragalactic dark space.

Humanity is ran by the System Alliance, which is based on Arcturus Station.

Quoted for emphasis.

That still doesn't explain why having the trial on Earth "ruins the trial".

[GreenDragon37]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

piemanz wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

piemanz wrote...

No, the system alliance represents earth and all human colonies.

Source?

In any case, EARTH does NOT represent the SYSTEMS ALLIANCE.

No but the sytems alliance is a human alliance and Earth IS the human homeworld.

Yes, and Palaven is the Turian homeworld. So what? When a certain Turian spectre went rogue, he was tried in absentia on the Citadel, and considered to be a Humanity's problem.

So, by that, Shepard should be tried on the Citadel and the verdict should be: Go, Batarians, catch 'em!

In other words, homeworld or not, Earth is irrelevant.

The Council ran the Saren trial, not the Hierarchy. It made since to hold it at the Citadel. He was a Council Spectre, and he answered to the Council. The Council isn't trying Shep, Humanity is.

"Humanity" can not try anyone.

Yes they can. The Systems Alliance is Humanity.

[Almostfaceman]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

And the Arcturus Station codex entry:

Arcturus Station is the gateway to Sol, a 5-kilometer diameter "Stanford Torus"-type space station at the trailing Lagrange point of the gas giant Themis. Construction on Arcturus Station began in 2151 and concluded in 2162. It was inaugurated in 2156, and has served as the military and political headquarters of the Systems Alliance from the First Contact War until the present.

When humanity activated the Charon Mass Relay in 2149, it led to Arcturus, 36 light years from Sol, Earth's sun. Arcturus is the third brightest star seen from Earth. It is an ancient red giant from the generation born before Sol. Its worlds are either gas giants or ice chunks. While some rocky debris exists, the metal content is 25% lower than normal. To build Arcturus Station, metallic asteroids were towed through the mass relays to the construction site. Many of these asteroids remain near the station, their mined out areas home to transient populations.

The expense of bringing construct materials into the system was acceptable due to its strategic value. With three primary mass relays in addition to the secondary one to Sol, Arcturus is a major communications and military chokepoint. The Alliance 1st Fleet is based in Arcturus, where it can guard the gates to Sol and react to incursions in the three connected clusters. The Station also hosts the Systems Alliance Parliament and the Systems Alliance Military general headquarters. Its permanent population is approximately 45,000.

Arcturus is actually from the galactic halo, one of a cluster of 52 stars that are "crashing through" the disc of the galaxy. In a billion years, Arcturus will be sailing through the depths of extragalactic dark space.

Humanity is ran by the System Alliance, which is based on Arcturus Station.

Quoted for emphasis.

Representative body of Earth, dude.  Bone up on your government.  Representatives are dudes who represent - guess what - mainly Earth.  Earth has like 11 billion people on it.  So who has the power?  Earth.  They simply conduct government business on Arcturus.  Does this mean they moved all Alliance courtrooms to Arcturus?  Nope.  Does it mean Arcturus judges are better than earth judges?  Nope.

[piemanz]

leonia42 wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Yeah, yeah, keep trying to sell that one.  If I'm interested in the Asari - I want to see the Asari homeworld. It's important.  It's the symbolic capital of their race.  Just like if I'm an Asari, I'd want to see Earth.  It's the captial of humanity.  It's where we're from.  You can't down-play that importance, sorry.

I'm not downplaying it dude. There is a difference between a symbolic capital (Earth) and an actual, functioning political capital (Arcturus Station). Where are the laws passed? Where are they enforced? Earth is important sure, but that doesn't mean the rules are made there. We're talking about a trial and judgement by laws here.

So, you're saying I have to go to Washington D.C. every time I violate federal law? LOL, nope.  The Earth granted the Alliance its power, and the laws passed are valid and enforceable in all Alliance territory, which includes Earth.  Are you trying to tell me they don't have Alliance courtrooms on Earth?  

So for non-Earthborn Shepards, where would they go to be prosecuted?

Earth.No matter if you're a colonist earth is still your spiritual home.Remeber we're not talking about a normal person here we're talking about commander shepard saviour of the citadel and first human spectre, this is going to be a huge deal.

Modifié par piemanz, 01 avril 2011 - 05:20 .

[upsettingshorts]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

The problem with this is that the Council will most likely strip you of your status. You were treading thin ice when you working for Cerberus. The Council gave you back the status in "good faith. " Now you blew up a Relay which destroyed a whole star system, murdering over 300,000 people and causing an intergalactic crisis!? Nah, you're screwed buddy.

My Shepard was an active Spectre when he did that, will be able to make his case as to why, and if the Council still decides to revoke his status it would have to be legally retroactive - another huge precedent that would be antithetical to the Spectres mandate - for that status to be overruled.

That doesn't stop the Council themselves from holding that Shepard accountable, and even executing him.  It's just that the Systems Alliance still doesn't have jurisdiction.  It would be a show trial to appease the Batarians.  Nothing more.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 01 avril 2011 - 05:20 .

[Almostfaceman]

leonia42 wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Yeah, yeah, keep trying to sell that one.  If I'm interested in the Asari - I want to see the Asari homeworld. It's important.  It's the symbolic capital of their race.  Just like if I'm an Asari, I'd want to see Earth.  It's the captial of humanity.  It's where we're from.  You can't down-play that importance, sorry.

I'm not downplaying it dude. There is a difference between a symbolic capital (Earth) and an actual, functioning political capital (Arcturus Station). Where are the laws passed? Where are they enforced? Earth is important sure, but that doesn't mean the rules are made there. We're talking about a trial and judgement by laws here.

So, you're saying I have to go to Washington D.C. every time I violate federal law? LOL, nope.  The Earth granted the Alliance its power, and the laws passed are valid and enforceable in all Alliance territory, which includes Earth.  Are you trying to tell me they don't have Alliance courtrooms on Earth?  

So for non-Earthborn Shepards, where would they go to be prosecuted?

That's simple, Admiral Hackett has already supplied you with that answer.  Earth.

[GreenDragon37]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

The problem with this is that the Council will most likely strip you of your status. You were treading thin ice when you working for Cerberus. The Council gave you back the status in "good faith. " Now you blew up a Relay which destroyed a whole star system, murdering over 300,000 people and causing an intergalactic crisis!? Nah, you're screwed buddy.

My Shepard was an active Spectre when he did that, will be able to make his case as to why, and if the Council still decides to revoke his status it would have to be legally retroactive - another huge precedent that would be antithetical to the Spectres mandate - for that status to be overruled.

That doesn't stop the Council themselves from holding that Shepard accountable, and even executing him.  It's just that the Systems Alliance still doesn't have jurisdiction.  It would be a show trial to appease the Batarians.  Nothing more.

Didn't Anderson say that when they "renewed" your status that it was mostly just for show? A sign of good faith? Yada-yada?

Reguardless, they make you do it anyway. You follow the orders of the Council. If the Council wants you there (especially since Humans have a seat/control the Council) they can make you do it.

[Zulu_DFA]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

And the Arcturus Station codex entry:

Arcturus Station is the gateway to Sol, a 5-kilometer diameter "Stanford Torus"-type space station at the trailing Lagrange point of the gas giant Themis. Construction on Arcturus Station began in 2151 and concluded in 2162. It was inaugurated in 2156, and has served as the military and political headquarters of the Systems Alliance from the First Contact War until the present.

When humanity activated the Charon Mass Relay in 2149, it led to Arcturus, 36 light years from Sol, Earth's sun. Arcturus is the third brightest star seen from Earth. It is an ancient red giant from the generation born before Sol. Its worlds are either gas giants or ice chunks. While some rocky debris exists, the metal content is 25% lower than normal. To build Arcturus Station, metallic asteroids were towed through the mass relays to the construction site. Many of these asteroids remain near the station, their mined out areas home to transient populations.

The expense of bringing construct materials into the system was acceptable due to its strategic value. With three primary mass relays in addition to the secondary one to Sol, Arcturus is a major communications and military chokepoint. The Alliance 1st Fleet is based in Arcturus, where it can guard the gates to Sol and react to incursions in the three connected clusters. The Station also hosts the Systems Alliance Parliament and the Systems Alliance Military general headquarters. Its permanent population is approximately 45,000.

Arcturus is actually from the galactic halo, one of a cluster of 52 stars that are "crashing through" the disc of the galaxy. In a billion years, Arcturus will be sailing through the depths of extragalactic dark space.

Humanity is ran by the System Alliance, which is based on Arcturus Station.

Quoted for emphasis.

That still doesn't explain why having the trial on Earth "ruins the trial".

Becasue it makes no sense to have the trial anywhere but the Citadel or the Arcturus Station, the only two power centers that may be responisble for Shepard's actions (depending on the exact circumstances and Shepard's official standing).

Like I said, having the trial on Earth is just like a left-handed salute. Looks cool, but is utterly ridiculous.

[Leonia]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

Yes they can. The Systems Alliance is Humanity.

Damn, and here I thought Cerberus was humanity.

For the record, I still think the Citadel is where the trial should be conducted. The batarians won't trust the SA to conduct a fair trial in their own territory and many Shepards are still Spectres. Shepard has other crimes besides just the 300,000 dead batarians to answer for and not all of them relate to the System Alliance.

At the same time, I don't think we can rule out Arcturus Station as a distinct possibility, especially in the case of the Council revoking Shepard's Spectre status. They may just have to try Shepard when procedings with the SA are done. If they get the chance.

Has everyone forgotten about the death of Spectre Vasir?

Modifié par leonia42, 01 avril 2011 - 05:26 .

[upsettingshorts]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

Didn't Anderson say that when they "renewed" your status that it was mostly just for show? A sign of good faith? Yada-yada?

Because you were operating in the Traverse, yes, they were not going to do anything more beyond reinstaing you.  However, legal status is legal status. 

GreenDragon37 wrote...

Reguardless, they make you do it anyway. You follow the orders of the Council. If the Council wants you there (especially since Humans have a seat/control the Council) they can make you do it.

And if the Council says anything on it, then that's the way it is - they are the bosses, as I've been saying.  If they say nothing, or protest, I'll do just what I describe.  Since they haven't said anything, I'm going to... well, continue to think they haven't said anything.  Because they haven't.  

[GreenDragon37]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

And the Arcturus Station codex entry:

Arcturus Station is the gateway to Sol, a 5-kilometer diameter "Stanford Torus"-type space station at the trailing Lagrange point of the gas giant Themis. Construction on Arcturus Station began in 2151 and concluded in 2162. It was inaugurated in 2156, and has served as the military and political headquarters of the Systems Alliance from the First Contact War until the present.

When humanity activated the Charon Mass Relay in 2149, it led to Arcturus, 36 light years from Sol, Earth's sun. Arcturus is the third brightest star seen from Earth. It is an ancient red giant from the generation born before Sol. Its worlds are either gas giants or ice chunks. While some rocky debris exists, the metal content is 25% lower than normal. To build Arcturus Station, metallic asteroids were towed through the mass relays to the construction site. Many of these asteroids remain near the station, their mined out areas home to transient populations.

The expense of bringing construct materials into the system was acceptable due to its strategic value. With three primary mass relays in addition to the secondary one to Sol, Arcturus is a major communications and military chokepoint. The Alliance 1st Fleet is based in Arcturus, where it can guard the gates to Sol and react to incursions in the three connected clusters. The Station also hosts the Systems Alliance Parliament and the Systems Alliance Military general headquarters. Its permanent population is approximately 45,000.

Arcturus is actually from the galactic halo, one of a cluster of 52 stars that are "crashing through" the disc of the galaxy. In a billion years, Arcturus will be sailing through the depths of extragalactic dark space.

Humanity is ran by the System Alliance, which is based on Arcturus Station.

Quoted for emphasis.

That still doesn't explain why having the trial on Earth "ruins the trial".

Becasue it makes no sense to have the trial anywhere but the Citadel or the Arcturus Station, the only two power centers that may be responisble for Shepard's actions (depending on the exact circumstances and Shepard's official standing).

Like I said, having the trial on Earth is just like a left-handed salute. Looks cool, but is utterly ridiculous.

I still don't see the problem. I really don't. If the Alliance higher-ups want the trial on Earth, they can do it. Looks like they are doing it. Simple as that.

[Zulu_DFA]

leonia42 wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

Yes they can. The Systems Alliance is Humanity.

Damn, and here I thought Cerberus was humanity.

No, Cerberus is Systems Alliance! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/w00t.png[/smilie]

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 01 avril 2011 - 05:28 .