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[TheJiveDJ]

Ooohh boyy.....*face palms*...I hope BioWare doesn't get upset that people are missing the point entirely. Here goes.

Shep does NOT have to go on trial. He does NOT have to do anything. If you listen to Hackett carefully then you'd all realize that Hackett is asking Shep a FAVOUR.

Shep is doing this of his own accord to act as a scape-goat for "humanities" crimes against the Batarians. Earth's relationship with the Batarians is already strained. Having a rogue human blow up one of their colonies is all the fuel they'd need to start a war.

The whole trial is one big publicity stunt to make it look as if Earth really cares that a Batarian colony was destroyed. It's all politics. Shep is a Spectre and as such, has the right to tell Earth to stuff it but he knows he needs Earth's full attention directed to the reapers.

Modifié par TheJiveDJ, 12 avril 2011 - 05:25 .

[Kijin]

...I can understand that debating lore can be fun, but this is just stupid. The trial is being held on earth because earth is important to humanity. The fact that some of you don't get that is sad. Every human in the galaxy still views Earth as their home, for good reason. No other explanation is required.

[SalsaDMA]

Kijin wrote...

...I can understand that debating lore can be fun, but this is just stupid. The trial is being held on earth because earth is important to humanity. The fact that some of you don't get that is sad. Every human in the galaxy still views Earth as their home, for good reason. No other explanation is required.

If we ignore that you appearantly are unable to convey your feelings without trying to insult people, let me just say tht you are wrong.

A trial is held at the court that has jurisdiction of the things that is to be trialed.

Earth does not have jurisidiction over either either Shepard or non-alliance systems in Batarian space.

That you don't need an explenation for why they contradict lore means you don't care about the story or lore at all. Some of us do.

[Capeo]

TheJiveDJ wrote...

Ooohh boyy.....*face palms*...I hope BioWare doesn't get upset that people are missing the point entirely. Here goes.

Shep does NOT have to go on trial. He does NOT have to do anything. If you listen to Hackett carefully then you'd all realize that Hackett is asking Shep a FAVOUR.

Shep is doing this of his own accord to act as a scape-goat for "humanities" crimes against the Batarians. Earth's relationship with the Batarians is already strained. Having a rogue human blow up one of their colonies is all the fuel they'd need to start a war.

The whole trial is one big publicity stunt to make it look as if Earth really cares that a Batarian colony was destroyed. It's all politics. Shep is a Spectre and as such, has the right to tell Earth to stuff it but he knows he needs Earth's full attention directed to the reapers.

Except that Earth has no jurisdiction over galactic matters or Shepard.  Oh, and except that nobody but Hackett even knows Shepard had anything to do with the relay blowing up and potentially imprisoning the one person that knows more about the Reapers than anybody else in the galaxy, while the Reapers are literally on Earth's doorstep, is incredibly moronic.  If it's a scapegoat they want there's millions of humans out there to choose from. 

[Big I]

I think Arcturus Station or the Citadel would make more sense, but I'm willing to live with Earth. It provides a better point of entry for newcomers to the franchise; if someone hadn't played ME1 or ME2, then instead of saying "wow, we're on Arcturus Station!" they'll say "why is this trial happening on some space station?"



Personally, I wish Shepard could just teleconference his presence into the trial like Saren did for his. Twenty foot tall holographic Shepard sneering down at his accusers would be awesome.

Modifié par LookingGlass93, 12 avril 2011 - 12:23 .

[Zulu_DFA]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

Truth be told we have no clue what happens or where rouge spectors are tried so it could be Citadel/ Council procedures that rouges be tried at their home worlds

Truth be told, we have a perfect clue how the rogue Spectres are handled: The C-Sec ivestigates them, trying to swap it under the rug. So the negatively affected side (in the case in question - the Batarians) must worry about prosecution itself... But it is the Council that determined the verdict.

Destroy Raiden wrote...

even if shep is spacer or colonist he is still human and in galactic terms = Earthling regardless if he was born there or not.

Even if Shepard's was born on Earth, he is not an Earth state's national any more and must be tried (if the Council doesn't care) where the Alliance military personnel is tried for capital offences - in the Alliance's capital, which is the Arcturus Station.

Destroy Raiden wrote...

Saren for all we know could've been or would've been tried at Palvin if shep was able to bring him in alive no reference to how spectors are tried for war or interstellar crimes are noted.

Saren was tried in adsentia on the Citadel.

Destroy Raiden wrote...

Trying shep on a space station even a more human dominated one is not safe anyone can blow up a station or cause damage and create havoc and get shep out or kill him during said chaos so the Alliance and the Council won't take that change putting him on Earth even trying him in a bunker would be better then a station and limiting the trial to TV only would be the best options to avoid an assassination attempt or rescue.

The fact the the Arcturus Station hasn't been blown up yet is evidence that nobody can blow it up, although no doubt many wanted to. It is the headquarters of the Alliance Navy, so no doubt it's the most heavly defended and highly secure place in the Alliance space. Earth on the other hand has a lot more civilian traffic, therefore it's easier ot carry out a terrorist attack on it.

Destroy Raiden wrote...

I agree shep being imprisoned on Earth will be tough how exactly do you keep a cyborg in prison short of cryo and even getting him into cryo would be tough.

I'm alittle disappointed Hackett said that the evidence was shotty sure things can be rigged to look bad, files erased or altered, voices added to taken away as kasumi did w/ hocks voice for the pass word, witnesses bribed to be silent or to say lies, ect. so I still have alot of potential railroading to look forward too.

I wanted to save the batarian colony but not because of the guards but the families who didn't do anything even Midior shep could recognize the families of those guards weren't slavers like the ones who attacked him but realistically if shep sent that message would they really have believed him? I mean a human calling in saying hey you've got 2 days to get all your peeps off that rock and throught that gate before I blow it to pieces. Really the governmental bodies if they took the warning seriously would've packed up and forgot to tell everyone else.

That's admirable, but your soft-heartedness about the collaterals is irrelevant to the fact that the trial on Earth and its foreshadowing by Hackett in the "Arrival" are plot holes.

Destroy Raiden wrote...

I wanted shep to go to trial not just for arrival but other acts that could be twisted to make him seem like a bad guy I want BW to make his lawyers put up a great effort maybe a win in argument or two but with all the twisting, lies, manipulation, and suppression through motion the other guys will do the lawyer would have to meet with shep and say it's looking bad I know they're falsifying things but there is no way for me to prove it. I'd like a few turns or days at trial we have a session lasting 20 -30min counts as day 1 speek with lawyer then day 2 another talk then finally day 3 and verdict I just can't decide if they should sentenced him to death, hand him to the batarians so they can decide his fate, or put him into a mental institution because of his reaper rantings. The only real card the sheps lawyer has is to say he's too insane to stand trial and if shep agrees to it he might get asylum in some max security location or if shep refuses he'd get another outcome for conviction.

BioWare wouldn't be able to pull up such a complex thing, given the continuing shooterization of the series, yet acounting for some big variables could have ben easily pulled of with minimal effort of making the very setting of the ME3 openning a bit different.

And just to make it clear once more: a public trial is a plot hole of itself: it's in the Alliance's best interests to deny any responsibility for what happened to th Bahak system.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 12 avril 2011 - 12:50 .

[Pwener2313]

Zulu, you are the single most obssesed person in the forums. You are an inspiration to us all.

[Zulu_DFA]

KingDan97 wrote...

In the end though, all it equates to is "it's not how I would've done it".

Hell yes it's not how I would've done it. Because I wouldn't be deliberatley putting plotholes in my narrative. I'd better drop the plot point entirely, which, seeing how the trial accoplishes nothing now, was the best they could have done with this trial affair.

[Pwener2313]

There is no plothole. The trial isn't even an Alliance one. Plus, there are probably going to be Batarian officials there ready to haul Shepard to a forsaken Batarian prison. If the trial was in Arcturus, it would as if an US soldier torched a third country village killing dozens and the trial was in North America. Then imagine that the Pentagon (who's counterpart in ME is Arcturus) had a trial room. Would they let third country officials inside? No. Would they let Batarians (humanity's sworn enemy) ionside Arcturus Station? No they wouldn't, that would be stupid.

[Zulu_DFA]

TheJiveDJ wrote...

Ooohh boyy.....*face palms*...I hope BioWare doesn't get upset that people are missing the point entirely. Here goes.

Oh, boy, BioWare doesn't get upset that people miss points entirely. It counts on it - when putting all them plotholes in the story.

TheJiveDJ wrote...

Shep does NOT have to go on trial. He does NOT have to do anything. If you listen to Hackett carefully then you'd all realize that Hackett is asking Shep a FAVOUR.

Shep is doing this of his own accord to act as a scape-goat for "humanities" crimes against the Batarians.

And that's very questionable that the choice to do that favor or not is withdrawn from the player. Yet, in any case it's irrelevant to the problem that the trial on Earth is going to be plot hole.

TheJiveDJ wrote...

Earth's relationship with the Batarians is already strained.

Like I said, BioWare counts on people mission the point. Earth is a planet. The Batarians are a race. Earth has no and connot have any relationships with the Batarians.

TheJiveDJ wrote...

Having a rogue human blow up one of their colonies is all the fuel they'd need to start a war.

With the System's Alliance, the Capital of which is the Arcturus Station, and which must deny any involvement in the incident ot avoid the war. Possibly try to brand Shepard as a rogue spectre (even if he hasn't been reinstated), and thus a Council's mad dog, not an Alliance's one.

TheJiveDJ wrote...

The whole trial is one big publicity stunt to make it look as if Earth really cares that a Batarian colony was destroyed. It's all politics.

Earth is a piece of molten iron and rock. And the Alliance politicians are imbecilles. Now that they admit that Shepard was one of theirs are they thinking the Batarians are going to care about the stupid trial? Whey will want compesation, probably a couple of million slaves, and the Galaxy will be sympathetic with them.

TheJiveDJ wrote...

Shep is a Spectre and as such, has the right to tell Earth to stuff it but he knows he needs Earth's full attention directed to the reapers.

Earth is a piece of molten iron and rock. Shepard can't have Earth's attention, becasue Earth is a piece of molten iron and rock.  He needs the Alliance's and the Council's attention, none of which is on Earth.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 12 avril 2011 - 01:29 .

[ISpeakTheTruth]

It's not that hard to believe that Shepard would go on trial he did sort of kill 300,000 people. Saren in his wildest days never pulled that off, his Plus its the smart thing to do, the evidence they have is spotty at best so Shepard will be cleared. If he didn't go to the trial than it would apppear that he's guilty to everyone, so to keep unity in the galaxy both a paragon and renagade would go to trial.

Its not a big deal.

[GodWood]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...
It's not that hard to believe that Shepard would go on trial he did sort of kill 300,000 people. Saren in his wildest days never pulled that off, his Plus its the smart thing to do, the evidence they have is spotty at best so Shepard will be cleared. If he didn't go to the trial than it would apppear that he's guilty to everyone, so to keep unity in the galaxy both a paragon and renagade would go to trial.

Its not a big deal.

I think you need to reread the OP

[Zulu_DFA]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

It's not that hard to believe that Shepard would go on trial he did sort of kill 300,000 people. Saren in his wildest days never pulled that off, his Plus its the smart thing to do, the evidence they have is spotty at best so Shepard will be cleared. If he didn't go to the trial than it would apppear that he's guilty to everyone, so to keep unity in the galaxy both a paragon and renagade would go to trial.

Its not a big deal.

Missing the point.

Shepard would never have had to go to trial for the Bahak incident, much less to Earth, if the Hackett didn't say so.

[Kijin]

SalsaDMA wrote...

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Kijin wrote...

...I can understand that debating lore can be fun, but this is just stupid. The trial is being held on earth because earth is important to humanity. The fact that some of you don't get that is sad. Every human in the galaxy still views Earth as their home, for good reason. No other explanation is required.

If we ignore that you appearantly are unable to convey your feelings without trying to insult people, let me just say tht you are wrong.

A trial is held at the court that has jurisdiction of the things that is to be trialed.

Earth does not have jurisidiction over either either Shepard or non-alliance systems in Batarian space.

That you don't need an explenation for why they contradict lore means you don't care about the story or lore at all. Some of us do.

You misunderstand me - I don't care either way. Both options seem perfectly legitimate - I'm not taking sides in this debate. I think that both sides have been wasting their time. I'm all for debating lore (I do so frequently in the DA2 section), but this is by far one of the most asinine debates I have seen. 

Since you're overly sensitive, I'll humour you. If Shepard is to be tried at all, it should probably be in a court martial. The location of the trial and who presides over the trial will change depending on Alliance law. (I am Canadian, and Bioware is a Canadian company, so I'll use Canadian law as a reference). 

In Canada, Court-Martial may occur anywhere in the world. In other words, the Judge has jurisdiction. As long as the case is being presided over by a military judge, the trial can occur anywhere within Canadian territory. This is also true of the United States.

The Alliance could choose to hold the trial at Arcturus. However, they could also choose to have the trial on Earth. Even if the Alliance decided on Arcturus, Sheppard could still appeal that decision and ask that the trial be heard on earth instead, which is his legal right under Canadian law (not so sure if the same can be said of American law). 

The location does not matter. As I said, this debate is pointless. 

Edit: For those who care, see the case of Harold Pringle, a Canadian soldier who deserted during WW2. He was captured, tried, executed and buried in Italy. 

Modifié par Kijin, 12 avril 2011 - 01:50 .

[Zulu_DFA]

Kijin wrote...

The Alliance could choose to hold the trial at Arcturus. However, they could also choose to have the trial on Earth.

Why?

Kijin wrote...

In Canada, Court-Martial may occur anywhere in the world. In other words, the Judge has jurisdiction. As long as the case is being presided over by a military judge, the trial can occur anywhere within Canadian territory. This is also true of the United States.

If an American soldier commits a crime in Iraq, he can be court-matialed at an American military facility in Great Britain. But it's a legitimate question that need to be answered: why not in Iraq, or Bahrain (main American military base in the region), or back on the home base in the U.S.

Kijin wrote...

Edit: For those who care, see the case of Harold Pringle, a Canadian soldier who deserted during WW2. He was captured, tried, executed and buried in Italy. 

For the sake of logistics, naturally. But Earth is one relay jump farther away from anywhere than the Arcturus Station.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 12 avril 2011 - 01:56 .

[SalsaDMA]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

It's not that hard to believe that Shepard would go on trial he did sort of kill 300,000 people. Saren in his wildest days never pulled that off, his Plus its the smart thing to do, the evidence they have is spotty at best so Shepard will be cleared. If he didn't go to the trial than it would apppear that he's guilty to everyone, so to keep unity in the galaxy both a paragon and renagade would go to trial.

Its not a big deal.

Saren only was deemed responsible for Eden Prime and the Attack on the citadel. I'd count that as pretty much worse than blowing up a remote sparsely populated system.

[SalsaDMA]

Kijin wrote...

The Alliance could

Full stop.

The alliance could do nothing of the sort with a large amount of canon shepards unless the council stepped in and said it would be so.

Even if we ignore that the council was never in on the question in regards to the trial before Hackett claimed it would be so (an act he had neither authority to claim, nor intell to suggest Shepard should be the one put on trial), we still have the precedence in ME1 with Saren showing that a spectre trial is conducted by the council at the citadel, and not relegated to the species the spectre came from. We didn't go to the Turian homeworld to discuss Sarens future as a spectre, for example, yet people expect this to happen for Shepard purely because he is human?


What's with all this humancentric poo in storytelling that is supposedly about multiple species in an entire galaxy?

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

It's not that hard to believe that Shepard would go on trial he did sort of kill 300,000 people. Saren in his wildest days never pulled that off, his Plus its the smart thing to do, the evidence they have is spotty at best so Shepard will be cleared. If he didn't go to the trial than it would apppear that he's guilty to everyone, so to keep unity in the galaxy both a paragon and renagade would go to trial.

Its not a big deal.

Missing the point.

Shepard would never have had to go to trial for the Bahak incident, much less to Earth, if the Hackett didn't say so.

The trial is political in nature it has nothing to do with Shepard actually being guilty of anything or not its just a tool to try and ease the anger of the Batarian government.

Hackett is acting as the messager of the Alliance its not him saying Shepard you should go to the trial its the Alliance saying it. You can't have someone fly into a system and then quickly fly out days latter moments before the entire system is cut off and every soul in the system dies.

If Shepard didn't have some kind of trial or hearing after that than that would be a plothole.
"Gee Shepard why did that system get cut off and 300,000 people die?"
"I had to do it to stop the evil monsters that only I believe in."
"Oh well then in that case you can go on your merry way."

@Salsa Seren lost his Spectre status for what happened at Eden Prime and would have stood at trial for doing it. Eden Prime did not result in the loss of 300,000 people and didn't result in the entire system being cut off. So what Shepard did could easily be argued as far worse than what Saren did to get kicked out of being a Spectre.

Modifié par ISpeakTheTruth, 12 avril 2011 - 02:12 .

[Zulu_DFA]

SalsaDMA wrote...

We didn't go to the Turian homeworld to discuss Sarens future as a spectre, for example, yet people expect this to happen for Shepard purely because he is human?

Not to mention that the Turian central government happens to be on Palaven, while the Human central government happens to be off Earth. Neither to mention that in the "concentrate on Sovereign" storyline the Humans are actively taking control of the galactic central government.

Homeworld homeworld homeworld. Whiny Quarian sympathizers.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 12 avril 2011 - 02:27 .

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

We didn't go to the Turian homeworld to discuss Sarens future as a spectre, for example, yet people expect this to happen for Shepard purely because he is human?

Not to mention that the Turian central government happens to be on Palaven, while the Human central government happens o be off Earth. Neither to mention that in the "concentrate on Sovereign" storyline the Humans are actively taking control of the galactic central government.

Homeworld homeworld homeworld. Whiny Quarian sympathizers.

The reason why we never heard the details of the legal plans regarding Saren is that we were too busy trying to find him. Also unlike Shepard Saren basicaly says 'Screw you guys I'm going to be killing more people now." If we had caught him alive than who knows where the galaxy would have decided to try him for his crimes. Garrus says that he's after Saren to clear the name of all Turians, its very possible that the Turian government would want to try him and punish him so that they could get their good name back.

[Zulu_DFA]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The trial is political in nature it has nothing to do with Shepard actually being guilty of anything or not its just a tool to try and ease the anger of the Batarian government.

Yeah, and I have the impression that the trails political in nature tend to take place in states' capitals.

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Hackett is acting as the messager of the Alliance its not him saying Shepard you should go to the trial its the Alliance saying it. You can't have someone fly into a system and then quickly fly out days latter moments before the entire system is cut off and every soul in the system dies.

If Shepard didn't have some kind of trial or hearing after that than that would be a plothole.

Only Hackett knew about Shepard's involvement, and the Alliance had been conducting the whole business as a black op even before Shepard was involved, so that it could deny any responsibility. Has Hackett ratted everybody out? Is he a traitor, like Anderson? if so, it's he who needs to be put on trial.

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

"Gee Shepard why did that system get cut off and 300,000 subjects of a notorious rogue state die?"
"I don't know."

fixed.

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

@Salsa Seren lost his Spectre status for what happened at Eden Prime and would have stood at trial for doing it. Eden Prime did not result in the loss of 300,000 people and didn't result in the entire system being cut off. So what Shepard did could easily be argued as far worse than what Saren did to get kicked out of being a Spectre.

But the kicking out has to actually occur in some form of hearing, which Shepard must be given a word in, like Saren was. Which is some kind of trial, and still giving no explanation as to why the next trial, by the Alliance, would be taking place on Earth and not at the Alliance capital / military HQ.

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The reason why we never heard the details of the legal plans regarding Saren is that we were too busy trying to find him. Also unlike Shepard Saren basicaly says 'Screw you guys I'm going to be killing more people now." If we had caught him alive than who knows where the galaxy would have decided to try him for his crimes. Garrus says that he's after Saren to clear the name of all Turians, its very possible that the Turian government would want to try him and punish him so that they could get their good name back.

That is, if Saren would be able walk away from the Council's verdict, the Turian Hierarchy could try and lay their hands on him too, but not before that.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 12 avril 2011 - 02:56 .

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Shepard is the highest profile human in the galaxy if he's going to be tried than it makes political sense for him to be on Earth because it is humanities strongest planet and a symbol of them as a people. A political trial liike this isn't going to be held in a military HQ it has to be public thats the whole point of the trial is to show the galaxy that Shepard is being tried for what he's accused of doing

Hackett of course would have informed the Alliance of what Shepard was doing... why wouldn't he? By informing the Alliance of what Shepard has done he hasn't 'ratted' eveyone out he's allowed the Alliance to point at Shepard and say it was all his doing like they are planing to do.

Saying I don't know isn't going to help anything if anything its just going to make him look guilty. Seiously if you saw a guy run into a bus station and then run out two seconds before it blew up would anyone take an 'I don't know' as a valid legal defense?

[Kijin]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Kijin wrote...

The Alliance could choose to hold the trial at Arcturus. However, they could also choose to have the trial on Earth.

Why?

Kijin wrote...

In Canada, Court-Martial may occur anywhere in the world. In other words, the Judge has jurisdiction. As long as the case is being presided over by a military judge, the trial can occur anywhere within Canadian territory. This is also true of the United States.

If an American soldier commits a crime in Iraq, he can be court-matialed at an American military facility in Great Britain. But it's a legitimate question that need to be answered: why not in Iraq, or Bahrain (main American military base in the region), or back on the home base in the U.S.

Well, in Canada Courts-Martial can occur anywhere. And they tend to be tried in the nearest facility. If somebody deserts the military in Italy, then they are tried in the nearest Canadian military base. This was what happened to Harold Pringle. This is also true in the United States: Nidal Malik Hasan, the man responsible for the Fort Hood Shooting, is going to be tried in a court-martial at Fort Hood. 

In both Canada and the United States, the military decides when and where Courts-Martial occur. And now we come to the biggest problem that this argument faces: we have no idea what the Alliance legal system is like. The location and nature of the trial is entirely dependent upon Alliance military law, which we know nothing about. I am assuming that Alliance military law is close to Canadian military law, but that assumption is entirely baseless on my part. You do not possess enough information to state that the trial should occur on Arcturus, since you know nothing about the Alliance's legal system. 

Edit: Go ahead and respond - but be warned that I am done responding in this thread. You can have the last word, Zulu.

Modifié par Kijin, 12 avril 2011 - 02:40 .

[Naltair]

Seems cool to me, I always wanted to go to Earth.

[Zulu_DFA]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Shepard is the highest profile human in the galaxy if he's going to be tried than it makes political sense for him to be on Earth

No, it does not because the capital of the Systems Alliance is not on Earth.

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

because it is humanities strongest planet

Source?

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

and a symbol of them as a people.

Remember Shanxi. Why not try Shepard on Shanxi. Why not on Eden Prime? Does the Alliance want to slap the colonies who work their collective ass off to feed the lazy earthworms, by saying Earth is more important than they? Does the Alliance want the colonies to rebel?

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

A political trial liike this isn't going to be held in a military HQ

So it should be held at the political capital of the state, which, what a coincidence is just on the other side of the bulkhead from the military HQ.

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

it has to be public thats the whole point of the trial is to show the galaxy that Shepard is being tried for what he's accused of doing

No, the trial has to be secret, so that Shepard could not disclose any sensitive information during the trial, like that it was he who blew up the Bahak system and the Alliance was involved in it - the facts that the Alliance needs to keep under the rug, so that the Batarians don't have a pretext to be sympathized with, if they decide to go to war with the Alliance.

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Hackett of course would have informed the Alliance of what Shepard was doing... why wouldn't he? By informing the Alliance of what Shepard has done he hasn't 'ratted' eveyone out he's allowed the Alliance to point at Shepard and say it was all his doing like they are planing to do.

Is it just me, or it is that what Cerebrus is for in the Alliance: blame all sh*t on them? Still, very risky to go public with that. "Facing the music" wasn't part of the initial assignment...

And still no bearing as to why the trial should be on Earth.

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Saying I don't know isn't going to help anything if anything its just going to make him look guilty. Seiously if you saw a guy run into a bus station and then run out two seconds before it blew up would anyone take an 'I don't know' as a valid legal defense?

And if nobody lived to identify the guy? Sure the guy should plead not guilty, and be acquitted due to insufficient evidence.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 12 avril 2011 - 02:55 .