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Shepard's Trial on Earth??? You must be kidding me... [with poll]


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Zulu_DFA

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I've rewatched the Med Bay scene on Youtube and it's simply atrocious.

Hackett:

1. I have no idea what happened, brief me.
2. Evidence against you is shoddy.
3. But you'll need to go to Earth.
4. But I'll try to keep them off your back.
5. But I shall fail.
6. On the second thought, keep your report.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 21 avril 2011 - 02:10 .


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Urazz

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SalsaDMA wrote...

I find it funny people are talking about a need of evidence about reapers, yet are quick to dismiss such a need to even be able to indict shepard for anything

More likely that the trial is a farce truth be told and is to be more symbolic than anything.  Shepard is supposed to pretty much serve as a sacrificial lamb to the slaughter to appease the Batarians and prevent a war.  It doesn't matter if there is little to no circumstantial evidence to convict him.  He's basically serving a role to prevent war.

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Urazz wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

I find it funny people are talking about a need of evidence about reapers, yet are quick to dismiss such a need to even be able to indict shepard for anything

More likely that the trial is a farce truth be told and is to be more symbolic than anything.  Shepard is supposed to pretty much serve as a sacrificial lamb to the slaughter to appease the Batarians and prevent a war.  It doesn't matter if there is little to no circumstantial evidence to convict him.  He's basically serving a role to prevent war.

Shep also has more than enough blood on her hands to warrant a trial, without the need for eradicating an entire batarian system.

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AwesomeName wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

Don't the issues pertaining to jurisdiction surrounding Shep's Spectre status become rather immaterial when Shepard knows that her job will be a lot harder if she doesn't take part in the trial? I think Shep knows the difference between laws (words on paper) and something physically tangible, such as war breaking out with the batarians. And I think renegade or paragon Shep would certainly know that if she doesn't attend the trial on Earth, fighting the Reapers would be far more difficult if we're fighting each other at the same time.


Okay, so I've made an assumption here that the trial being on Earth would appease the batarians more than having it elsewhere... but I have no idea really.   Does anyone even know what location would appease them the most?  I can only guess that it's because the batarians have a massive chip on their shoulder with humanity specifically, and so having it on Earth is a symbolic display to the batarians that humanity fully recognises the severity of the act committed in the Bahak system and that they are doing all the steps they can to get justice.



If i was an angry four eyed space monster that needs to whip slaves to feel like a man then a Human did something to make my relay and 300,000 other mosters disappear, well i'd hate for him to be put on trial on Earth where they'd be soft on him because Humans think they are better than us Batarian slavers.

so no, i don't think slavers will be happy either way.

Modifié par Last Vizard, 21 avril 2011 - 01:46 .


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SalsaDMA wrote...

Arcian, that's a pretty shoddy excuse to indict anyone for.

Basicly you are saying: anyone within a solar system where a criminal act occurs could be prosecuted for the act.

Excuse me for saying such a suggestion is bollocks.

My shepard is a Spectre. His primary task is to ensure galactic stability. Following leads and interogate people withholding leads is under that jurisdiction.

If Shepard was on the trail of the human cell that had plans to blow up the system, do you really think the batarians would allow him/her to stroll in and interogate the prisoner? I really doubt it.

Given this, hte logic cause of action for a spectre that wanted to avert a disaster of the level we are talking about here, is to gain access to the prisoner, by any means necesary (which includes killing the guards that are trying to prevent him/her from seeing the prisoner) and secure the prisoner at a safe place to interogate.

Time ran out, though, and things blew up despite shepards efforts.

Which sounds more likely? The above, or that a Spectre on active duty to stabilize galactic peace actively blows up a system?

I know what my shepard SHOULD be telling about what happened if asked by anyone, and the reapers wouldn't figure in that retelling at all.

Unfortunately the writers aren't allowing us to actually decide for Shepard... In a ROLEPLAYING game nonetheless....


Those are very valid points. Shepard could certainly deny everything like Saren did.
But Shepard is this trilogy's hero. He owns his actions. And for practical reasons, you have to connect with certain attitudes of your character. Game cannot simulate every possible flow of story.

And additionally, proving guilt/innocence is precisely the kind of thing this trial is for. Shepard was involved - that is public knowledge. Politicians got upset, so they decided they need a scapegoat. It is simple as that. But people go to extensive lengths to invent story in which this course of action is plothole.

Modifié par celuloid, 21 avril 2011 - 05:23 .