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Just like you are doing, but thanks for proving my suspicions about you right!
*flees*
You're right, I am dashingly handsome!
*blushes*
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I bet 100 sovereigns that Sebastian is just going to run crying to the nearest chanter's board...
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 05:17
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You're right, I am dashingly handsome!
*blushes*
Retour en haut
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 05:18
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Fruit of the Doom wrote...
I don't think anyone disputed this, however as you've pointed out time and time again, this is only one part of the overall plot. Anders condemns himself at the end when he answers the question "Was this you or Justice?"..... "It was my choice".
Done
Cool story bro, now watch this video and tell me how Anders was in "complete control" the whooole time:
I don't think anyone disputed this, however as you've pointed out time and time again, this is only one part of the overall plot. Anders condemns himself at the end when he answers the question "Was this you or Justice?"..... "It was my choice".
Done
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 05:18
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Pfft, like I'm going to let you get away with saying that.Fruit of the Doom wrote...
vocalemuse wrote...
Just like you are doing, but thanks for proving my suspicions about you right!
*flees*
You're right, I am dashingly handsome!
*blushes*
SO not what I meant.
Anyway, so as not to derail this anymore, Anders blowing up the Chantry and Seb's reaction. Discuss!
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 05:20
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And... THANK YOU for confirming what I said this entire frigging time.Mipharos wrote...
Fruit of the Doom wrote...Cool story bro, now watch this video and tell me how Anders was in "complete control" the whooole time:
I don't think anyone disputed this, however as you've pointed out time and time again, this is only one part of the overall plot. Anders condemns himself at the end when he answers the question "Was this you or Justice?"..... "It was my choice".
Done
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 05:20
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Fruit of the Doom wrote...
vocalemuse wrote...
...yeah, you're not even worth trying to reason with. Judging from your response to that other poster's well written and correct post, I'm done feeding the troll.
He overanalyzed a bit of party banter that wasn't really even related to what we were discussing.
But don't let me hold you back, flee to your heart's content!
Over analyzed? you based your entire theory on a snip of dialogue when he looses it to Justice never once considering where he stopped and where justice took over talking?. Hrm... yeah, so my previous post ends the debate. You get used, Anders buys into what the spirit tells him and gives in.
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 05:21
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vocalemuse wrote...
And... THANK YOU for confirming what I said this entire frigging time.Mipharos wrote...
Fruit of the Doom wrote...Cool story bro, now watch this video and tell me how Anders was in "complete control" the whooole time:
I don't think anyone disputed this, however as you've pointed out time and time again, this is only one part of the overall plot. Anders condemns himself at the end when he answers the question "Was this you or Justice?"..... "It was my choice".
Done
Anytime, I tried to be less "analytical" that time
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 05:21
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Mipharos wrote...
Fruit of the Doom wrote...Cool story bro, now watch this video and tell me how Anders was in "complete control" the whooole time:
I don't think anyone disputed this, however as you've pointed out time and time again, this is only one part of the overall plot. Anders condemns himself at the end when he answers the question "Was this you or Justice?"..... "It was my choice".
Done
Stop taking quotes out of context. In the same breath, he also said that he and Justice were one. Meaning that it was the result of both he AND Justice, not purely his initiative.
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 05:23
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Mipharos wrote...
Fruit of the Doom wrote...
vocalemuse wrote...
...yeah, you're not even worth trying to reason with. Judging from your response to that other poster's well written and correct post, I'm done feeding the troll.
He overanalyzed a bit of party banter that wasn't really even related to what we were discussing.
But don't let me hold you back, flee to your heart's content!
Over analyzed? you based your entire theory on a snip of dialogue when he looses it to Justice never once considering where he stopped and where justice took over talking?. Hrm... yeah, so my previous post ends the debate. You get used, Anders buys into what the spirit tells him and gives in.
Sorry buddy, but pulling silly interpretations from random party banter really doesn't carry the same weight as simply presenting an entire scene within context.
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 05:31
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Fruit of the Doom wrote...
Mipharos wrote...
Fruit of the Doom wrote...
vocalemuse wrote...
...yeah, you're not even worth trying to reason with. Judging from your response to that other poster's well written and correct post, I'm done feeding the troll.
He overanalyzed a bit of party banter that wasn't really even related to what we were discussing.
But don't let me hold you back, flee to your heart's content!
Over analyzed? you based your entire theory on a snip of dialogue when he looses it to Justice never once considering where he stopped and where justice took over talking?. Hrm... yeah, so my previous post ends the debate. You get used, Anders buys into what the spirit tells him and gives in.
Sorry buddy, but pulling silly interpretations from random party banter really doesn't carry the same weight as simply presenting an entire scene within context.
You're right, perhaps his own words will do see video below when asked point blank... Anyhoot, I grow tired of this, its now trolling... you have your opinion, and I will have my own. Enjoy...
www.youtube.com/watch
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 05:36
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Mipharos wrote...
You're right, perhaps his own words will do see video below when asked point blank... Anyhoot, I grow tired of this, its now trolling... you have your opinion, and I will have my own. Enjoy...
www.youtube.com/watch
Not sure which "words" you are referring to. At that point though, you couldn't really trust his word anymore as it was clearly established within the scene I keep having to relink to, that Anders is NOT the dominant personality anymore.
When Hawke pleads with him to not go through with it, it is ANDERS who starts to have second thoughts when Justice suddenly takes over FORCIBLY and makes Anders forget about it.
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 07:33
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I regret my my decision to spare Anders, but given he is my only available healer, didn't know if i might need him. Sebastian swearing vengeance did not help matters, because i actually agreed with him in that instance.
Cool! He swears vengence?! Awesome. Then I should spare Anders... Naaaw, he's still the bigger douche.
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 12:48
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I loved Anders in Awakening, and he's completely different in Dragon Age 2. Everything he says seems to be influenced slightly or massively by Justice, before he was possessed he wasn't even keen on going up against the templars www.youtube.com/watch, but afterwards now it's all he can think about.
It doesn't clear Anders from guilt, but it does make it hard for me to hate him, when he's not fully in control of his actions and even his thoughts when he is are influenced by Justice.
Edit: spelling.
It doesn't clear Anders from guilt, but it does make it hard for me to hate him, when he's not fully in control of his actions and even his thoughts when he is are influenced by Justice.
Edit: spelling.
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Posté 01 avril 2011 - 03:11
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"When Hawke pleads with him to not go through with it, it is ANDERS who starts to have second thoughts when Justice suddenly takes over FORCIBLY and makes Anders forget about it."
Yeah, this is my impression: Anders may SAY it was entirely his idea, but if you read his codex entry that gets put in at the beginning of the chapter, he's increasingly acting different, and seems to be acting more and more like he was when he was proven to be controlled by Vengeance (all blue flamey eyed). You see a really good example with the girl in that one quest, when Vengeance almost kills her but you pull him back. Contrast Anders usual behavior with how Vengeance acted then. It was simple then, but as the codex points out, the line does not seem near as distinct anymore.
I very much believe that Anders is not strong enough to remain completely himself, not when he's got a spirit of vengeance within him. He's going to become less and less the old him, and more and more vengeance as time goes on if something isn't done. If something even can be done. There was already a pretty big change between Awakening and DA2's first act. Then the codex documents even further changes, and you can kind of see it as you progress in the game.
Yeah, this is my impression: Anders may SAY it was entirely his idea, but if you read his codex entry that gets put in at the beginning of the chapter, he's increasingly acting different, and seems to be acting more and more like he was when he was proven to be controlled by Vengeance (all blue flamey eyed). You see a really good example with the girl in that one quest, when Vengeance almost kills her but you pull him back. Contrast Anders usual behavior with how Vengeance acted then. It was simple then, but as the codex points out, the line does not seem near as distinct anymore.
I very much believe that Anders is not strong enough to remain completely himself, not when he's got a spirit of vengeance within him. He's going to become less and less the old him, and more and more vengeance as time goes on if something isn't done. If something even can be done. There was already a pretty big change between Awakening and DA2's first act. Then the codex documents even further changes, and you can kind of see it as you progress in the game.
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