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[IntoTheDarkness]

Or so says the theory of special relativity by Albert Einstein.

An object can travel in the speed of light from one place to anoher, but the object cannot 'intantly appear' on different locations because it defies  law of conservation since in the view of someone the object could disappear and not appear instantly. (even it it did for other observers.)



I wasn't careful with codexs, are there explanations regarding FTL travel? Can someone please post it?




disclaimer: I ain't an expert in the area. I'm only trying to discuss with common knowlege at hand.

reminder: no ignorant "this is just a game! " comment please. I ain't complaining or nitpicking. I just want to discuss the topic that I found interesting. 'This is just a game! why bother?" argement can dismiss discussions of about everything in the game.

[CitizenSnips]

Science Fiction.

_______ ^^^^^^^.


Edit: I will say that current science does allow for the possibility of faster than light travel within objects with enough mass such as a black hole since the laws of time and space break down. Currently, we "don't know" what happens inside of the event horizon of those objects so, theoretically, if black holes connect with each other, we could travel between them instantaneously if we could survive the massive gravitational forces. As far as I can tell, the "mass effect" does exactly that - it effects mass, working on the same princicples of black holes so it's as good an explanation as any in a science fiction setting.

Modifié par mushoops86anjyl, 31 mars 2011 - 09:53 .

[Lukertin]

Why don't you read the pseudo-science in the codex instead of trying to one-up the game developers

[Tazzmission]

its not impossible. we already put a team of people on mars and russia is gona go there in 2015-2020

[GFX1989]

I don't know if it's explained but I assume it's possible through the power of SCIENCE! That's as much explanation as I need.

Modifié par GFX1989, 31 mars 2011 - 09:48 .

[AdmiralCheez]

The nearest star besides the sun is four light years away. In order for this game to take less than a million years to play, physics must be broken.

And boy, you thought LOADING SCREENS were tedious...

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 31 mars 2011 - 09:49 .

[Demigod]

As said above SCFI has forever ignored this and thought of ways round it. All I can suggest is you read the in game codex where I believe biowares way of getting round light speed is explained.

Been a while since i did physics isnt it no object can reach / travel at light speed, but a particle can travel faster?

Modifié par Demigod, 31 mars 2011 - 09:53 .

[maxut85]

I don't really understand your explanation of why faster than speed of light is impossible.

[AdmiralCheez]

Demigod wrote...

Been a while since i did physics isnt it no object can reach / travel at light speed, but a particle can travel faster?

Light is bascially a collection of photons.  Photons are particles.  Light cannot travel faster than the speed of light.  Therefore, particles cannot travel faster than the speed of light.

[Praetor Knight]

IntoTheDarkness wrote...

Can someone please post it?

Well, I'll link for now, but eventually this should be moved to the Spoiler forum.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/FTL
http://masseffect.wi...ps_and_Vehicles


And regarding FTL in the ME universe, maybe what is described is simply what is seen, like gravity not what actually is happening scientifically speaking (which is theoretical for now anyway in contemporary science).

So for all we know what could actually be happening is space-time folding/bending from the eezo drive cores adjusting mass in ships and mass relays.

[CitizenSnips]

An object that can generate enough mass can bypass the laws of space and time entirely according to current theoretical science.

[Whatever42]

Yes, FTL travel is impossible. Bioware does wave some magic dark energy around but dark energy has nothing to do with FTL travel in current scientific theory. In current scientific theory dark energy is called "dark" because we can't detect it. So how do we know it's there? Well, we don't. It's actually just something we made up to explain the wierd expansionary rates of the universe that has us confused And since we figured there was dark matter (again, we really don't know there's dark matter - we just made that up too) we might as well invent dark energy.

I think Bioware used dark energy because the universe is expanding far faster than the speed of light and since it's going faster than the speed of light maybe we can go faster than the speed of light. Of course, the universe really isn't expanding faster than the speed of light because its not actually moving but everything in it, every quark, every atom, every molecule, every planet, every star is moving away from everything else, unless drawn back by other forces. But we see the stars moving away from us faster than the speed of light so we tend to picture it that way.

But no, we can't even imagine going FTL. It's as incomprehensible to us as magically summoning flying unicorns that breathe fire.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 31 mars 2011 - 10:00 .

[Halfdan The Menace]

It is possible,did you ever heard of the wormhole theory? plus scientists are developing hyperdrive technology.

[Tazzmission]

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

It is possible,did you ever heard of the wormhole theory? plus scientists are developing hyperdrive technology.

we have the technology but the government wont be able to profit from it like they do from oil sadly. just wanna point that out. i mean for christ sakes we have moon rocks locked up in a nasa building and they wont mine for helium 3? with all the money on the space program youd think they invest in that

Modifié par Tazzmission, 31 mars 2011 - 10:00 .

[kidbd15]

With our current understanding nothing travels faster than light... but there could still be something discovered that changes that. Or you could just say, "A Wizard Reaper did it"

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Face it guys. We can't be 100% sure such travels are impossible. Our scientific knowledge and technology are way too primitive to judge that travels with speeds faster than light are impossible. I wouldn't be suprised that 200 years later people would be laughing at our actual science theories.

[Pwener2313]

Faster then light travel is possible, we just haven't found the technology yet. 50 years ago, touch screens and instant messaging (like what we're doing here) would have been considered absurd and crazy. Right now we can clone and choose the sex of our offsprings. Give it time, this is possibl, we just need to take baby steps. Scientists are already coming up with alternatives and options for it, I did a project on the subject in High School.

[ADelusiveMan]

It's called science fiction, OP. And read the codexes if you are really that curious.

[CitizenSnips]

John Newton wrote...

No, but what about just as fast?

Fast as light travel is still way too slow for galaxy spanning empires. For example, the closest star to our sun is, traveling at the speed  of light, still over four years away. Travelling from one end of the galaxy to the other would take hundreds of thousands, millions, possibly billions of years or more.

[Tazzmission]

kidbd15 wrote...

With our current understanding nothing travels faster than light... but there could still be something discovered that changes that. Or you could just say, "A Wizard Reaper did it"

did you see that 12 year old autistic kid in the news? his IQ is higher than einsteins! id love to see what he thinks on this debate.. the kid is 12 and is in college, he skipped 7 grades

[Lukertin]

Mass effect field refract light negatively, so light travels faster in mass effect fields. (reasoning behind this is light travels slower through more massive objects (eg glass, water), and since mass effect fields decrease mass it would therefore travel faster)
ergo you can accelerate to a speed faster than c.

Modifié par Lukertin, 31 mars 2011 - 10:07 .

[stonbw1]

I'm not a scientist, but there is some school of thought that the universe is expanding (or did)quicker than the speed of light. If you subscribe to the Big Bang theory, the universe was a spec and one millisecond later, it was well, pretty big. And it continues to grow . . .wah, wah, wah

[Whatever42]

maxut85 wrote...

I don't really understand your explanation of why faster than speed of light is impossible.

Well, first you have to understand the concept of space-time. There is no such thing as space. There is no such thing as time. There is only space-time.

Actually, everything moves through absolute space-time at the same rate. The faster you travel through space, the slower you travel through time. Light travels only through space, not through time. So it is the maximum speed you can travel through space.

And there is absolute and relative space-time as well, which does make things confusing (at least for me).

If you are standing still and there is a train approaching you to your right at 100kph and there is a train approaching you from your left at 100kph then to you, each train is going 100kph. However, to each train, the other train is approaching it at 200 kph relative to themselves. 

Now the wierd thing about light is that if a beam of blue light is coming at you from the right and a beam of red light is coming at you from the left, each beam, relative to you, is going the speed of light. However, to the red beam of light, the blue beam is not approaching it at twice the speed of light but just at the speed of light.

Wierd, huh?

[Seraphithan]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Demigod wrote...

Been a while since i did physics isnt it no object can reach / travel at light speed, but a particle can travel faster?

Light is bascially a collection of photons.  Photons are particles.  Light cannot travel faster than the speed of light.  Therefore, particles cannot travel faster than the speed of light.

What about tachyons or are those no longer around?