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[4love]

why wait for info in april,here one for free,MASS EFFECT 3 :Release Date: Q4 2011 "in WINTER"

Modifié par 4love, 08 avril 2011 - 06:41 .

[Jarrett Lee]

cedgedc wrote...


I understand the trepidation of many fans, but think of yourself as part of a community, because that's what this is. If you want Bioware to continue to turn out this caliber of game.. If you want the next investment they make into the Mass Effect universe to be as compelling and moving as this trilogy has been, then you as a fan and member of the community need to do your part of being supportive.

Understand that Bioware will do what it takes to make their game a success. Remember too that they are not just making this game for us, but for people who have yet to be exposed to this trilogy. If they market the game so as to appeal to only existing customers and fans of ME1 & 2 then the best they can hope for is to break even on sales.

This wouldn't encourage any investors to follow up in pursuit of further Mass Effect titles down the line. The series would appear to have peaked and that'd be that.

So what you see as a spoiler, someone looking on with fresh eyes, with
no clue of what's going on just sees something awesome they want to get
involved with. This can't be overlooked.

So I understand the frustration and I may join you in abstaining from reading and viewing all that's made accessible in the months ahead, but I fully support Bioware in pimping out their game to the gaming community!

*applauds*

[Akizora]

Jarrett Lee wrote...

cedgedc wrote...


I understand the trepidation of many fans, but think of yourself as part of a community, because that's what this is. If you want Bioware to continue to turn out this caliber of game.. If you want the next investment they make into the Mass Effect universe to be as compelling and moving as this trilogy has been, then you as a fan and member of the community need to do your part of being supportive.

Understand that Bioware will do what it takes to make their game a success. Remember too that they are not just making this game for us, but for people who have yet to be exposed to this trilogy. If they market the game so as to appeal to only existing customers and fans of ME1 & 2 then the best they can hope for is to break even on sales.

This wouldn't encourage any investors to follow up in pursuit of further Mass Effect titles down the line. The series would appear to have peaked and that'd be that.

So what you see as a spoiler, someone looking on with fresh eyes, with
no clue of what's going on just sees something awesome they want to get
involved with. This can't be overlooked.

So I understand the frustration and I may join you in abstaining from reading and viewing all that's made accessible in the months ahead, but I fully support Bioware in pimping out their game to the gaming community!

*applauds*

Indeed, but it would be helpful if perhaps any official announcements made on the official website were labeled "Spoiler alert" if they contain any spoilers - that would help to sort out the information you may want about gameplay, but not about the story.

[macrotech92]

Hey Jarret, are you guys going to announce all the squad mates that will be back or are you going to keep some of them in secret ?? if you announce that sometime before ME3 launch, also I'm freaking exited!! cant wait to play it, t looks so epic! *sorry for my English*

[Blacklash93]

The main plot has been slowly going down the drain ever since ME2's "humans are special" schtick in my mind, but otherwise I have complete faith that ME3 will be an enjoyable gameplay experience.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 08 avril 2011 - 08:10 .

[MajesticJazz]

Jarrett Lee wrote...

cedgedc wrote...


I understand the trepidation of many fans, but think of yourself as part of a community, because that's what this is. If you want Bioware to continue to turn out this caliber of game.. If you want the next investment they make into the Mass Effect universe to be as compelling and moving as this trilogy has been, then you as a fan and member of the community need to do your part of being supportive.

Understand that Bioware will do what it takes to make their game a success. Remember too that they are not just making this game for us, but for people who have yet to be exposed to this trilogy. If they market the game so as to appeal to only existing customers and fans of ME1 & 2 then the best they can hope for is to break even on sales.

This wouldn't encourage any investors to follow up in pursuit of further Mass Effect titles down the line. The series would appear to have peaked and that'd be that.

So what you see as a spoiler, someone looking on with fresh eyes, with
no clue of what's going on just sees something awesome they want to get
involved with. This can't be overlooked.

So I understand the frustration and I may join you in abstaining from reading and viewing all that's made accessible in the months ahead, but I fully support Bioware in pimping out their game to the gaming community!

*applauds*

So it is confirmed that Bioware will indeed put out minor plot point spoilers in their marketing? Why?

Judging by the Game Informer article, I can say that I will need to be very cautious when reading ME3 related material because it seems like Bioware is in the "go all out" mode in terms of releasing information.

I understand you're trying to market a game. but it contratics yourself when you take a game that is heavily influenced by story material.....and spoil all of that by putting it in your articles, interviews, videos, and trailers.

Don't tell me that there is still more to see in the game because that is BS. They said that with ME1 and that wasn't the case and they said that in ME2 and that wasn't the case. We pretty much new EVERYTHING about ME1 prior to launch. The only thing we didn't know was that it was the Reapers, not the Protheans to create the Mass Relays/Citadel. In ME2, we knew EVERYTHING about ME2 prior to launch and the only thing we didn't know as that the Protheans are the Collectors and that they are building a Baby Reaper.

I do not want to come into ME3 knowing 60%-80% of the plot leaving only 20%-40% of the plot to be explored. It should be the other way around.

[Almostfaceman]

MajesticJazz wrote...

So it is confirmed that Bioware will indeed put out minor plot point spoilers in their marketing? Why?

Judging by the Game Informer article, I can say that I will need to be very cautious when reading ME3 related material because it seems like Bioware is in the "go all out" mode in terms of releasing information.

I understand you're trying to market a game. but it contratics yourself when you take a game that is heavily influenced by story material.....and spoil all of that by putting it in your articles, interviews, videos, and trailers.

Don't tell me that there is still more to see in the game because that is BS. They said that with ME1 and that wasn't the case and they said that in ME2 and that wasn't the case. We pretty much new EVERYTHING about ME1 prior to launch. The only thing we didn't know was that it was the Reapers, not the Protheans to create the Mass Relays/Citadel. In ME2, we knew EVERYTHING about ME2 prior to launch and the only thing we didn't know as that the Protheans are the Collectors and that they are building a Baby Reaper.

I do not want to come into ME3 knowing 60%-80% of the plot leaving only 20%-40% of the plot to be explored. It should be the other way around.

Just stop reading material on Mass Effect 3.  Problem solved.

[Lunatic LK47]

macrotech92 wrote...

Hey Jarret, are you guys going to announce all the squad mates that will be back or are you going to keep some of them in secret ?? if you announce that sometime before ME3 launch, also I'm freaking exited!! cant wait to play it, t looks so epic! *sorry for my English*

I agree with macro on this. Unlike ME2, I'm actually hopeful that ME3 will be the best game by far in the returning squadmates department. I'm glad I got Garrus back in ME2, but long before this, I thought he was going to get the Virmire Survivor and Wrex cameo treatment.

[javierabegazo]

MajesticJazz wrote...


I do not want to come into ME3 knowing 60%-80% of the plot leaving only 20%-40% of the plot to be explored. It should be the other way around.

I recommend you stay away from the forums, there is no way that we can garuantee that no spoilers will be posted at any point during the ME3 PR campaign by other users. If you want to keep updated on Gameplay features, then bookmark this link, and I'd be wary of clicking on any actual other article because they can't sell ME3 without telling some of the story

Spoiler Free MASTER LINK ME3

This same link is also in green text in my signature

[MajesticJazz]

javierabegazo wrote...

MajesticJazz wrote...


I do not want to come into ME3 knowing 60%-80% of the plot leaving only 20%-40% of the plot to be explored. It should be the other way around.

I recommend you stay away from the forums, there is no way that we can garuantee that no spoilers will be posted at any point during the ME3 PR campaign by other users. If you want to keep updated on Gameplay features, then bookmark this link, and I'd be wary of clicking on any actual other article because they can't sell ME3 without telling some of the story

Spoiler Free MASTER LINK ME3

This same link is also in green text in my signature

See and thats where you are wrong.

GI did an article for Saints Row 3 and Skyrim and NO story elements were given. Those articles talked about graphics upgrades, gameplay/combat upgrades, enviornments, new technology, inspirations from the fans/past mistakes from Oblivion and so on.

I think that is just a poor excuse as Bioware is the ONLY developer that does this, For ME1, they were so hell bent on emphasising the fact that choices plays a big role and as Shepard you will be making huge choices. So instead of using a side mission like Major Kyle or the Biotic Hostage situation to show how Shepard makes big choices. They instead use the Wrex confrontation on Virmire, a MAJOR plot point in the story. So before the game came out, we already knew that Wrex was going to confront us. We knew that Saren is conducting research to cure the Krogan on Virmire. So by the time ME1 came out, when the counsil revealed that I must goto Virmire, it wasn't a big surprise to me. When I landed on the planet, I was like "So this is the place where Wrex goes mad".

To add insult to injury, Bioware let it slip that at some point in the game, you'll be making a huge choice regarding Ashley/Kaiden. I mean serious, was that really necessary?

I can see talking about VERY VERY VERY minor plot points to emhpasis the story, like most developers do when they allow the media to see/play their game. But Bioware just goes all out and shows off EVERYTHING. 

The only reason why I took a peek at the GI scans were because I did want to know if Ashley/Liara is coming back as squadmates and I wanted to see if there would be multiplayer which there isnt. Beyond that, I think i've ALREADY learned a little too much regarding ME3 like Shepard escaping to find the Norrmandy which to me, is a bit too much. Therefore I will stick around for now to continue to discuss the GI article, but once more information comes around like the PS3 Mag article on ME3/E3, I really have to leave. I will NOT watch any trailers and if there are videos that I watch, it'll probably only be videos that shows off gameplay mechanics like ME3 Inflitrator class vs ME2 Inflitrator class. Or I'll watch videos on how ME3 will have more focus on RPG mechanics and such. But when it comes to developer videos previewing ME3 in general, I need to stay away.

Bioware makes great stories, but they do a POOR job of keeping them fresh for the consumers to experience on their own.

[Tazzmission]

MajesticJazz wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

MajesticJazz wrote...


I do not want to come into ME3 knowing 60%-80% of the plot leaving only 20%-40% of the plot to be explored. It should be the other way around.

I recommend you stay away from the forums, there is no way that we can garuantee that no spoilers will be posted at any point during the ME3 PR campaign by other users. If you want to keep updated on Gameplay features, then bookmark this link, and I'd be wary of clicking on any actual other article because they can't sell ME3 without telling some of the story

Spoiler Free MASTER LINK ME3

This same link is also in green text in my signature

See and thats where you are wrong.

GI did an article for Saints Row 3 and Skyrim and NO story elements were given. Those articles talked about graphics upgrades, gameplay/combat upgrades, enviornments, new technology, inspirations from the fans/past mistakes from Oblivion and so on.

I think that is just a poor excuse as Bioware is the ONLY developer that does this, For ME1, they were so hell bent on emphasising the fact that choices plays a big role and as Shepard you will be making huge choices. So instead of using a side mission like Major Kyle or the Biotic Hostage situation to show how Shepard makes big choices. They instead use the Wrex confrontation on Virmire, a MAJOR plot point in the story. So before the game came out, we already knew that Wrex was going to confront us. We knew that Saren is conducting research to cure the Krogan on Virmire. So by the time ME1 came out, when the counsil revealed that I must goto Virmire, it wasn't a big surprise to me. When I landed on the planet, I was like "So this is the place where Wrex goes mad".

To add insult to injury, Bioware let it slip that at some point in the game, you'll be making a huge choice regarding Ashley/Kaiden. I mean serious, was that really necessary?

I can see talking about VERY VERY VERY minor plot points to emhpasis the story, like most developers do when they allow the media to see/play their game. But Bioware just goes all out and shows off EVERYTHING. 

The only reason why I took a peek at the GI scans were because I did want to know if Ashley/Liara is coming back as squadmates and I wanted to see if there would be multiplayer which there isnt. Beyond that, I think i've ALREADY learned a little too much regarding ME3 like Shepard escaping to find the Norrmandy which to me, is a bit too much. Therefore I will stick around for now to continue to discuss the GI article, but once more information comes around like the PS3 Mag article on ME3/E3, I really have to leave. I will NOT watch any trailers and if there are videos that I watch, it'll probably only be videos that shows off gameplay mechanics like ME3 Inflitrator class vs ME2 Inflitrator class. Or I'll watch videos on how ME3 will have more focus on RPG mechanics and such. But when it comes to developer videos previewing ME3 in general, I need to stay away.

Bioware makes great stories, but they do a POOR job of keeping them fresh for the consumers to experience on their own.

 why are you crying so much?

[MajesticJazz]

Tazzmission wrote...

MajesticJazz wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

MajesticJazz wrote...


I do not want to come into ME3 knowing 60%-80% of the plot leaving only 20%-40% of the plot to be explored. It should be the other way around.

I recommend you stay away from the forums, there is no way that we can garuantee that no spoilers will be posted at any point during the ME3 PR campaign by other users. If you want to keep updated on Gameplay features, then bookmark this link, and I'd be wary of clicking on any actual other article because they can't sell ME3 without telling some of the story

Spoiler Free MASTER LINK ME3

This same link is also in green text in my signature

See and thats where you are wrong.

GI did an article for Saints Row 3 and Skyrim and NO story elements were given. Those articles talked about graphics upgrades, gameplay/combat upgrades, enviornments, new technology, inspirations from the fans/past mistakes from Oblivion and so on.

I think that is just a poor excuse as Bioware is the ONLY developer that does this, For ME1, they were so hell bent on emphasising the fact that choices plays a big role and as Shepard you will be making huge choices. So instead of using a side mission like Major Kyle or the Biotic Hostage situation to show how Shepard makes big choices. They instead use the Wrex confrontation on Virmire, a MAJOR plot point in the story. So before the game came out, we already knew that Wrex was going to confront us. We knew that Saren is conducting research to cure the Krogan on Virmire. So by the time ME1 came out, when the counsil revealed that I must goto Virmire, it wasn't a big surprise to me. When I landed on the planet, I was like "So this is the place where Wrex goes mad".

To add insult to injury, Bioware let it slip that at some point in the game, you'll be making a huge choice regarding Ashley/Kaiden. I mean serious, was that really necessary?

I can see talking about VERY VERY VERY minor plot points to emhpasis the story, like most developers do when they allow the media to see/play their game. But Bioware just goes all out and shows off EVERYTHING. 

The only reason why I took a peek at the GI scans were because I did want to know if Ashley/Liara is coming back as squadmates and I wanted to see if there would be multiplayer which there isnt. Beyond that, I think i've ALREADY learned a little too much regarding ME3 like Shepard escaping to find the Norrmandy which to me, is a bit too much. Therefore I will stick around for now to continue to discuss the GI article, but once more information comes around like the PS3 Mag article on ME3/E3, I really have to leave. I will NOT watch any trailers and if there are videos that I watch, it'll probably only be videos that shows off gameplay mechanics like ME3 Inflitrator class vs ME2 Inflitrator class. Or I'll watch videos on how ME3 will have more focus on RPG mechanics and such. But when it comes to developer videos previewing ME3 in general, I need to stay away.

Bioware makes great stories, but they do a POOR job of keeping them fresh for the consumers to experience on their own.

 why are you crying so much?

Because since KOTOR 1, it appears that Bioware believes the only way to market a game is the continiously show of major plot material.

Rockstar did a GREAT job marketing Red Dead Redemption by showing off combat videos, scenery videos, mutliplayer videos, and other related stuff. NOHTING regarding the story outside of the trailers revealed anything about the plot that is why playing the game was such a great experience. 

With ME3, expect 70% of the story to be revealed after E3 comes and goes. Bioware just cant help themselves

[merrick97]

MajesticJazz wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

MajesticJazz wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

MajesticJazz wrote...


I do not want to come into ME3 knowing 60%-80% of the plot leaving only 20%-40% of the plot to be explored. It should be the other way around.

I recommend you stay away from the forums, there is no way that we can garuantee that no spoilers will be posted at any point during the ME3 PR campaign by other users. If you want to keep updated on Gameplay features, then bookmark this link, and I'd be wary of clicking on any actual other article because they can't sell ME3 without telling some of the story

Spoiler Free MASTER LINK ME3

This same link is also in green text in my signature

See and thats where you are wrong.

GI did an article for Saints Row 3 and Skyrim and NO story elements were given. Those articles talked about graphics upgrades, gameplay/combat upgrades, enviornments, new technology, inspirations from the fans/past mistakes from Oblivion and so on.

I think that is just a poor excuse as Bioware is the ONLY developer that does this, For ME1, they were so hell bent on emphasising the fact that choices plays a big role and as Shepard you will be making huge choices. So instead of using a side mission like Major Kyle or the Biotic Hostage situation to show how Shepard makes big choices. They instead use the Wrex confrontation on Virmire, a MAJOR plot point in the story. So before the game came out, we already knew that Wrex was going to confront us. We knew that Saren is conducting research to cure the Krogan on Virmire. So by the time ME1 came out, when the counsil revealed that I must goto Virmire, it wasn't a big surprise to me. When I landed on the planet, I was like "So this is the place where Wrex goes mad".

To add insult to injury, Bioware let it slip that at some point in the game, you'll be making a huge choice regarding Ashley/Kaiden. I mean serious, was that really necessary?

I can see talking about VERY VERY VERY minor plot points to emhpasis the story, like most developers do when they allow the media to see/play their game. But Bioware just goes all out and shows off EVERYTHING. 

The only reason why I took a peek at the GI scans were because I did want to know if Ashley/Liara is coming back as squadmates and I wanted to see if there would be multiplayer which there isnt. Beyond that, I think i've ALREADY learned a little too much regarding ME3 like Shepard escaping to find the Norrmandy which to me, is a bit too much. Therefore I will stick around for now to continue to discuss the GI article, but once more information comes around like the PS3 Mag article on ME3/E3, I really have to leave. I will NOT watch any trailers and if there are videos that I watch, it'll probably only be videos that shows off gameplay mechanics like ME3 Inflitrator class vs ME2 Inflitrator class. Or I'll watch videos on how ME3 will have more focus on RPG mechanics and such. But when it comes to developer videos previewing ME3 in general, I need to stay away.

Bioware makes great stories, but they do a POOR job of keeping them fresh for the consumers to experience on their own.

 why are you crying so much?

Because since KOTOR 1, it appears that Bioware believes the only way to market a game is the continiously show of major plot material.

Rockstar did a GREAT job marketing Red Dead Redemption by showing off combat videos, scenery videos, mutliplayer videos, and other related stuff. NOHTING regarding the story outside of the trailers revealed anything about the plot that is why playing the game was such a great experience. 

With ME3, expect 70% of the story to be revealed after E3 comes and goes. Bioware just cant help themselves

Majestic please give us the code for your femshepard.  She will be my new renegade-b*tch playthrough!

[Tazzmission]

MajesticJazz wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

MajesticJazz wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

MajesticJazz wrote...


I do not want to come into ME3 knowing 60%-80% of the plot leaving only 20%-40% of the plot to be explored. It should be the other way around.

I recommend you stay away from the forums, there is no way that we can garuantee that no spoilers will be posted at any point during the ME3 PR campaign by other users. If you want to keep updated on Gameplay features, then bookmark this link, and I'd be wary of clicking on any actual other article because they can't sell ME3 without telling some of the story

Spoiler Free MASTER LINK ME3

This same link is also in green text in my signature

See and thats where you are wrong.

GI did an article for Saints Row 3 and Skyrim and NO story elements were given. Those articles talked about graphics upgrades, gameplay/combat upgrades, enviornments, new technology, inspirations from the fans/past mistakes from Oblivion and so on.

I think that is just a poor excuse as Bioware is the ONLY developer that does this, For ME1, they were so hell bent on emphasising the fact that choices plays a big role and as Shepard you will be making huge choices. So instead of using a side mission like Major Kyle or the Biotic Hostage situation to show how Shepard makes big choices. They instead use the Wrex confrontation on Virmire, a MAJOR plot point in the story. So before the game came out, we already knew that Wrex was going to confront us. We knew that Saren is conducting research to cure the Krogan on Virmire. So by the time ME1 came out, when the counsil revealed that I must goto Virmire, it wasn't a big surprise to me. When I landed on the planet, I was like "So this is the place where Wrex goes mad".

To add insult to injury, Bioware let it slip that at some point in the game, you'll be making a huge choice regarding Ashley/Kaiden. I mean serious, was that really necessary?

I can see talking about VERY VERY VERY minor plot points to emhpasis the story, like most developers do when they allow the media to see/play their game. But Bioware just goes all out and shows off EVERYTHING. 

The only reason why I took a peek at the GI scans were because I did want to know if Ashley/Liara is coming back as squadmates and I wanted to see if there would be multiplayer which there isnt. Beyond that, I think i've ALREADY learned a little too much regarding ME3 like Shepard escaping to find the Norrmandy which to me, is a bit too much. Therefore I will stick around for now to continue to discuss the GI article, but once more information comes around like the PS3 Mag article on ME3/E3, I really have to leave. I will NOT watch any trailers and if there are videos that I watch, it'll probably only be videos that shows off gameplay mechanics like ME3 Inflitrator class vs ME2 Inflitrator class. Or I'll watch videos on how ME3 will have more focus on RPG mechanics and such. But when it comes to developer videos previewing ME3 in general, I need to stay away.

Bioware makes great stories, but they do a POOR job of keeping them fresh for the consumers to experience on their own.

 why are you crying so much?

Because since KOTOR 1, it appears that Bioware believes the only way to market a game is the continiously show of major plot material.

Rockstar did a GREAT job marketing Red Dead Redemption by showing off combat videos, scenery videos, mutliplayer videos, and other related stuff. NOHTING regarding the story outside of the trailers revealed anything about the plot that is why playing the game was such a great experience. 

With ME3, expect 70% of the story to be revealed after E3 comes and goes. Bioware just cant help themselves

 im betting we will get the opening scene of shepards trial on earth at e3 like we did with his death in me2 a few years ago. i admit i find it odd they would reveal the opening to me3 but its not like they did a full article on the entire game. i mean hell people have cried crabbed and moaned for the vs and they got it reveled in this issue. regardless what the information is wether its a major spoiler or even limited people will always complain. its a no win for the devs when the fans cry and moan when they do or dont get what they want

[BluSoldier]

 Cautious, MajesticJazz, but interested.

[MajesticJazz]

Tazzmission wrote...




 im betting we will get the opening scene of shepards trial on earth at e3 like we did with his death in me2 a few years ago. i admit i find it odd they would reveal the opening to me3 but its not like they did a full article on the entire game. i mean hell people have cried crabbed and moaned for the vs and they got it reveled in this issue. regardless what the information is wether its a major spoiler or even limited people will always complain. its a no win for the devs when the fans cry and moan when they do or dont get what they want

See thats exactly what I'm talking about when I say "Bioware goes too far" in regards to plot points in their marketing.

All they could have said was that Shepard starts the game off on Earth standing trial for his/her actions in Arrival. If they would have left it at that then I would be find and we could all speculate on how things go from there. BUT NOOOOOOOO that wasn't good enough for Bioware so they had to add in more spice by saying that he escapes to find the Normandy and so on. DAMN! Was it really that important to say?

Besides the endings, the beginnings to movies, novels, and videogames is probably one of the more important things to a start and really sets the stage for you to be immersed into the experience. The beginning should have PLENTY of room for mystery and suspision. THAT is how it should be but from Bioware's perspective, it isn't like that.

Take this for example:

With ME1 we knew the ENTIRE beginning. We knew that Shepard is supposed to participate in a Normandy shakedown run to find a prothean becon on Eden Prime. We later found out that things on Eden Prime are a lot more serious than expected as there is an attack that we find out about via the transmission. We later find out how Jenkins die. We find out that we meet Ashley there. We find out about Saren's purpose on Eden Prime. We find out that Nihlus(sp?) dies by Saren. We find out that Shepard falls withn grasp of the becon and has a weird vision. 

ALL of that was known prior to ME1's launch and it wasn't because some guy got an early copy from Kmart 2 weeks before launch and spoiled it for everyone, but because Bioware allowed the media to report this about 3-5 months before launch. So during my first playthrough on Eden Prime which then took nearly 2 hours to complete (later playthroughs Eden Prime was done in like 20 minutes), there WAS NO mystery left. I felt like I was simply just going through the motions to get to the next part rather than being fully immersed into the story. That immersion didn't come until I hit the Citadel as that wasn't ruined for me but it should have started on Eden Prime.

Same thing happened for ME2.
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With that being said, I do not want this to happen again with ME3. I already know that Bioware is going to allow the media to do a hands-on preview for the first 2 hours of the game or so in which all of it will be ruined like ME1's Eden Prime beginning so I am going to stay away from that.

Again, I'm going to stick around now to continue to discuss the GI information, but after that, I'm done. I will not look at ANY ME3 screenshots or ANY trailers. I will look at concept art and thats it. Come E3, I'll just focus on the Star Wars: The Old Republic, Battlefield 3, Forza 4, SSX4, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, and NCAA Football 12 information.

I do not trust Bioware in keeping a fresh experience like I can with Eidos Montreal keeping Deus Ex: Human Revolution a fresh experience.

[jmood88]

Blacklash93 wrote...

The main plot has been slowly going down the drain ever since ME2's "humans are special" schtick in my mind, but otherwise I have complete faith that ME3 will be an enjoyable gameplay experience.

The whole series revolves around how humans are special and how one particular human is even more special than everyone else but don't let facts get in the way of your complaining.

[MajesticJazz]

jmood88 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

The main plot has been slowly going down the drain ever since ME2's "humans are special" schtick in my mind, but otherwise I have complete faith that ME3 will be an enjoyable gameplay experience.

The whole series revolves around how humans are special and how one particular human is even more special than everyone else but don't let facts get in the way of your complaining.

Wrong!

For ME: Revelations and ME1 the whole story was that humans ARENT special and that they are newcomers to a much more established galactic community. Humans aren't the center of the universe but just one small piece within it.

It wasn't until ME2 that Humans suddenly became so important such as the Reapers specifically targeting human colonies and whatnot.

[The Shadow Broker]

Jarrett Lee wrote...

It seems though that if we don't say enough about story, people jump to negative conclusions quickly. At any rate, we'll keep a lid on stuff

You dont have to worry about giving too much when ME2 came. We fans were going nuts asking you guys about giving us info about the collectors; and i still remember like yesterday that collectors teaser and the pumphype for months. The only spoiler i should have skiped knowing, was that shepard dies in the first 5 minutes and normandy was destroyed..to know that while playing without spoilers would have been memorable.

Also congrats about ME2 launch trailer because it was epic.

This time around i suggest to not give up too much about main plot or crucial moments(like the normandy destruction one..) but you can give us some new customization-hability features or peraps new mako/scaning mode without giving too much about new plot outcomes.

as for attracting new fans, just show some destruction+Reaper/space fight+ big guns + good combat system and they will interested. High ratings will do the rest.

[Sable Phoenix]

Jarrett Lee wrote...

Thing is what makes ME awesome is the story - its packed with major and minor plot points. Selling it as awesome only by talking about basic game features can be difficult - but we may see a move towards that this time.

If that's the case, how do you explain Mass Effect 2?  The game was a departure from both the lore and the storyline of the first game and did nothing appreciable to advance the knowledge of or ability to stop the Reapers.  The only part of it that couldn't have been skipped entirely and left us in exactly the same position to start Mass Effect 3 was Lair of the Shadow Broker, a DLC add-on.