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CONFIRMED: Mass Effect film is NOT about Saren, Reapers.


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This could actually be a good decision.

- If Shepard was in the movie, a huge percentage of fans would be annoyed at the actor / actress chosen to play him / her. Every player's Shepard is different both in terms of looks and personality, and suddenly the movie would say "this is the real Shepard".

- If the movie focused on the Reapers, how do you condense about 60 hours of game into 6 hours (for a trilogy) of movie? Existing fans wouldn't like it, and new fans wouldn't understand it.

- The first contact war will be an interesting subject for existing fans showing us something we haven't seen before, and a nice introduction point for new fans to get to know the technology and one of the major species.

Only downside I can think of is that I was looking forward to seeing actors like Seth Green and Martin Sheen in the movie. This can't happen now. But that doesn't automatically mean it will be talentless Z-listers.

Bioware *MUST* have some involvement in this movie to ensure that it respects the universe they had created, but this little bit of news about the film's setting does give me a good feeling.

Edit: re: "all films of games suck" ... yes, but think for a moment about why. Good films need strong stories and characters. But most games don't bother with that. Most games are just about the shooty explody stuff and they don't really care about explaining why. Its pretty much "OMG aliens invading go kill them with this big gun". But film producers know that unless you cast Jason Statham in the film, you have to at least try to explain why all the shooty explody stuff is happening. So they tack on a plot and then change things from the games to try and make it fit the plot they've just made up and ... oh look now the film isn't anything like the game that its supposed to be based on which means all the fans of the games hate it. And most film critics don't like shooty explody so they hate it anyway.

Of all the games out there, Bioware's have the strongest stories and characters. So if any game can inspire a good film, its Mass Effect. (I also think a Half Life film would be awesome but this isn't the Valve forums). The film producers don't have to change anything or create anything, the work is already done. Turians already have faces and voices and backstory and personalities. The shooty explody already has a reason.

The only caution would be that sometimes Hollywood likes to think they know best and they change stuff just because they can. Max Payne the game had a pretty good story, but that film changed the story and characters so much that it might as well have not been called Max Payne. This is why Bioware need heavy influence over the film.

Modifié par G00N3R7883, 01 avril 2011 - 02:47 .


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Nice April Fools'!

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Give us a link OP.

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Okay, first this is not an April Fools joke. Would be a bad joke anyway since most people are happy about it. Second, IMDB cannot be freely edited like Wikipedia. A member can submit a modification which can take weeks to appear and only after it is confirmed/checked by the staff at IMDb.

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Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Give us a link OP.



he made this thread yesterday. i dont believe its fake.

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Ty2011 wrote...

Saren was a great story for Mass Effect 1. But the Mass Effect movie isn't going to be a bunch of live action cut scenes from ME1. It's going to be an original production that's within the realm of a film production company's limits. They're not going to recycle what they've already done. That would be crap.


I'm not sure I agree with this. A movie adaption of LotR had been attempted multiple times unsuccessfully, and it took one devoted, appropriately budgeted attempt to finally get it right. The overall story of Mass Effect as it spans three games is nothing short of some of the best sci-fi fiction I've ever seen. It's an incredible story, with some very cool and surprising plot developments that could easily translate into a blockbuster trilogy. I don't think it would cheapen the franchise or dilute the impact of the game series in the least. On the contrary, for non-gamers to see and experience this A+ story we've all been playing through would be nothing short of spectacular. While I do think there is plenty of other material for them to draw from, like the First Contact Wars with the Turians, I'm leary this will be too Halo-esque in concept, and too cliche in execution. The Reaper invasion is unique, compelling, exciting, with a rich enough plot to do well in the theaters. When you have an award-winning story, why risk using an untested story that's much less original in concept?

I'm with the OP on this one, and not getting my hopes up that this will be anything but a movie I end up catching on Netflix eventually.

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I think this is a great idea, if true. It has my full support.

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As much as I hate the idea of a Mass Effect movie (video game movies are all horrible atrocities that generally just stain a game's prestige)... I'm at least relieved that they aren't making it about Shepard and aren't screwing around with the events Shepard was involved in.

I still won't watch it.. I'll still **** and moan over the fact it's being made... but at least I'm a little less bitter about it now.

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good. I dont see the issue. if you dont wanna see it dont

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SupR G wrote...

Mass Effect the movie will, in fact, NOT follow the game's story about Saren and the Reapers. Here's the official summary as written by the film's producers:

"Mankind discovers ancient alien technology that enables faster than light travel. Using stored coordinates, mankind stumbles on a hostile alien race know as the Turians."


Oh yeah bby. First Contact War. Been wanting for that since announcement of the movie.

Now to hope it won't get completely Hollywood-ized and that the CGI on turians will be believeable enough. 

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G00N3R7883 wrote...

- If the movie focused on the Reapers, how do you condense about 60 hours of game into 6 hours (for a trilogy) of movie? Existing fans wouldn't like it, and new fans wouldn't understand it.


I'm amazed it took 8 pages for someone to make this point. even if they did 3 hours / movie (assuming each game became it's own movie) there would really be no way to condense such large/long stories into 3 hours of film and have it still be coherent.


- The first contact war will be an interesting subject for existing fans showing us something we haven't seen before, and a nice introduction point for new fans to get to know the technology and one of the major species.


excellent point, the ideal mix of something familiar yet new for the established fanbase, without requiring any previous knowledge of the continuity (eliminating a major barrier for non-ME fans)


Bioware *MUST* have some involvement in this movie to ensure that it respects the universe they had created


Agreed, though as the movie is still so early in development i see no reason to believe that they aren't (IMDB's info can not be taken as being a definitive and accurate account of who is or is not involved in a movie that hasn't even started being made yet, sorry OP)



Edit: re: "all films of games suck" ... yes, but think for a moment about why. Good films need strong stories and characters. But most games don't bother with that. Most games are just about the shooty explody stuff and they don't really care about explaining why. Its pretty much "OMG aliens invading go kill them with this big gun". But film producers know that unless you cast Jason Statham in the film, you have to at least try to explain why all the shooty explody stuff is happening. So they tack on a plot and then change things from the games to try and make it fit the plot they've just made up and ... oh look now the film isn't anything like the game that its supposed to be based on which means all the fans of the games hate it. And most film critics don't like shooty explody so they hate it anyway.


i'd like to add that, if the synopsis provided by the OP is true, this has the benefit of not actually being a "video game movie" so much as a movie set in a universe that was originally created for a video game. a slight but important difference. video game movies suck in large part because they have to chop out HUGE sections of plot, and are forced to change the stories they're trying to tell into something often unrecognizable because of it. a movie focused on the FCW would face no such handicap, as it's a story that's yet to be told (aside from a few lines of codex entry).

Modifié par Black_Warden, 01 avril 2011 - 09:08 .


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So what happened to Ray and Greg being producers? Way to screw over any chance of making sure the movie stays faithful to the established canon.

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Saren fights in the first contact war!

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I have a feeling whether this movie is good or bad, I'm going to end up seeing it in the theatres (if it's released in theatres) more times than I wish to confess. And I'll end up owning it on Blu-Ray. Probably even buy the crappy film-version movie tie-in video game some other publisher creates... after it's marked down to 20 bucks, that is.

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G00N3R7883 wrote...

- If the movie focused on the Reapers, how do you condense about 60 hours of game into 6 hours (for a trilogy) of movie? Existing fans wouldn't like it, and new fans wouldn't understand it.


The same way that you can condense more than 1000 pages of Lord of The Rings in about 9 hours.

ME1 is basically 1. Eden Prime and introduction of the main characters, 2. The Citadel and convincing the Council of Saren's activities, 3. Therum and finding Liara, 4. Noveria and the Rachnis, 5. Feros and the Thorian, 6. Virmire and the confrontation with Saren, 7. Ilos and finding the fate of the Protheans, 8. the battle of the Citadel.

It fills 150 mn of movie with no sweat.

All the rest is just side quests irrelevant to the main plot. Nice for a game to make the experience deeper, completely optional for a movie.

Modifié par maxulic, 01 avril 2011 - 11:29 .


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maxulic wrote...
The same way that you can condense more than 1000 pages of Lord of The Rings in about 9 hours.

ME1 is basically 1. Eden Prime and introduction of the main characters, 2. The Citadel and convincing the Council of Saren's activities, 3. Therum and finding Liara, 4. Noveria and the Rachnis, 5. Feros and the Thorian, 6. Virmire and the confrontation with Saren, 7. Ilos and finding the fate of the Protheans, 8. the battle of the Citadel.

It fills 150 mn of movie with no sweat.

Yea, if you don't care about things like pacing.

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Lukertin wrote...

maxulic wrote...
The same way that you can condense more than 1000 pages of Lord of The Rings in about 9 hours.

ME1 is basically 1. Eden Prime and introduction of the main characters, 2. The Citadel and convincing the Council of Saren's activities, 3. Therum and finding Liara, 4. Noveria and the Rachnis, 5. Feros and the Thorian, 6. Virmire and the confrontation with Saren, 7. Ilos and finding the fate of the Protheans, 8. the battle of the Citadel.

It fills 150 mn of movie with no sweat.

Yea, if you don't care about things like pacing.


Well you have to be about 13 years old to think that the entire game would be in the movie. Feros and Noveria were not really necessary in the scheme of things, and there's so many more instances of content placed purely for gameplay rather then to just move the story forward. When you cut out all the fat, trim it down, you can have a perfect plot and pacing is all in the editing. A story doesn't pace itself.

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SupR G wrote...

Lukertin wrote...

maxulic wrote...
The same way that you can condense more than 1000 pages of Lord of The Rings in about 9 hours.

ME1 is basically 1. Eden Prime and introduction of the main characters, 2. The Citadel and convincing the Council of Saren's activities, 3. Therum and finding Liara, 4. Noveria and the Rachnis, 5. Feros and the Thorian, 6. Virmire and the confrontation with Saren, 7. Ilos and finding the fate of the Protheans, 8. the battle of the Citadel.

It fills 150 mn of movie with no sweat.

Yea, if you don't care about things like pacing.


Well you have to be about 13 years old to think that the entire game would be in the movie. Feros and Noveria were not really necessary in the scheme of things, and there's so many more instances of content placed purely for gameplay rather then to just move the story forward. When you cut out all the fat, trim it down, you can have a perfect plot and pacing is all in the editing. A story doesn't pace itself.

And you have to have the reading comprehension of a pole to think my statement evaluated your suggestion

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that Avi guy also produced "the Bratz movie". brilliant

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Lukertin wrote...

SupR G wrote...

Lukertin wrote...

maxulic wrote...
The same way that you can condense more than 1000 pages of Lord of The Rings in about 9 hours.

ME1 is basically 1. Eden Prime and introduction of the main characters, 2. The Citadel and convincing the Council of Saren's activities, 3. Therum and finding Liara, 4. Noveria and the Rachnis, 5. Feros and the Thorian, 6. Virmire and the confrontation with Saren, 7. Ilos and finding the fate of the Protheans, 8. the battle of the Citadel.

It fills 150 mn of movie with no sweat.

Yea, if you don't care about things like pacing.


Well you have to be about 13 years old to think that the entire game would be in the movie. Feros and Noveria were not really necessary in the scheme of things, and there's so many more instances of content placed purely for gameplay rather then to just move the story forward. When you cut out all the fat, trim it down, you can have a perfect plot and pacing is all in the editing. A story doesn't pace itself.

And you have to have the reading comprehension of a pole to think my statement evaluated your suggestion


To think your statement evaluated my suggestion? What does that even mean.

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I'm cautiously optimistic, but like any other movie out of Hollywood I meet it with some skepticism. If done right it can be a great movie that conveys both sides of the conflict and the turmoil without resorting to the whole stereotype "unknown evil enemy attacks humanity and we valiantly defend ourselves and come out victorious against all odds."...Yes I do realize the irony of it since Mass Effect is basically just that only done better and more interactive so it doesn't count :P

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If this is true, than I am extremely disappointed.

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maxulic wrote...

G00N3R7883 wrote...

- If the movie focused on the Reapers, how do you condense about 60 hours of game into 6 hours (for a trilogy) of movie? Existing fans wouldn't like it, and new fans wouldn't understand it.


The same way that you can condense more than 1000 pages of Lord of The Rings in about 9 hours.

ME1 is basically 1. Eden Prime and introduction of the main characters, 2. The Citadel and convincing the Council of Saren's activities, 3. Therum and finding Liara, 4. Noveria and the Rachnis, 5. Feros and the Thorian, 6. Virmire and the confrontation with Saren, 7. Ilos and finding the fate of the Protheans, 8. the battle of the Citadel.

It fills 150 mn of movie with no sweat.

All the rest is just side quests irrelevant to the main plot. Nice for a game to make the experience deeper, completely optional for a movie.


Precisely. Which is why, in a perfect world, i would love to see Peter Jackson direct this.

Believe me, if it worked (beautifully, I might add) for The Lord of the Rings, it could work for Mass Effect.

Modifié par sympathy4saren, 02 avril 2011 - 03:12 .


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As a matter of fact, could somebody please contact Peter Jackson? Seriously?

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I'm actually glad. I don't want to see Commander Shepard in a Mass Effect movie. That would bother me to no end. No matter who they chose, they could never make a Shepard that would have satisfied me. So why even bother? Better to just leave that alone.

My only hope is that they bring in Joker anyway. I mean, a live-action Seth Green as Joker? That would be enough of a connection to the games that I would go to see it with no reservations.

Modifié par CastonFolarus, 02 avril 2011 - 03:17 .