Serpieri Nei wrote...
Judge585 wrote...
Serpieri Nei wrote...
Judge585 wrote...
Serpieri Nei wrote...
Judge585 wrote...
Serpieri Nei wrote...
Judge585 wrote...
I agree with the OP. I beat Awakening recently after playing DAII, and Awakening brought back all the memories of the poor gameplay mechanics of DA:O to reality. I will likely delete my DA:O install on my PC harddrive seeing that I've already transferred my saves to DAII for the last time. Let's just say that I'm now happily back on my third playthrough of DAII as a rogue.
Only thing about the combat is that its faster, which should be slowed down a bit. Had a friend who thought it was more tactical from the demo he tried so I took my save on the Orsino fight and he Initiated the battle then we grabbed our portables and played some CoD.
Guess who won the fight ?
Here's a hint, he decided not to buy DA:2
When I mentioned "gameplay mechanics," it went beyond just the combat system, which I do think DAII is generally superior. But, that's not the only thing as it also included quest markers on fast travel map, "r" for take all while looting, etc.
So, you're taking an anonymous friend who played only the demo and a single fight (you should really add a spoiler tag) with your save to argue against my opinion of the game? Seriously? For the record, I've beat DA:O twice as mage and rogue, then to DAII as mage, warrior, then to Awakening as mage.
It's clearly not superior since it doesn't require user input . Don't remmeber anybody ever saying they got lost in DA:Origns, they had quest markers in each instance that was not recycled to death. Who needed a fast travel map, when I can get a random encounter for some more fun. Looting is not really innecessary in DA2, since your limited on what can be used for yourself and party, and the other stuff is junk.
Here's the real Kicker, the amount of gameplay on one Origins playthrough equates to about 2-3 playthroughs of DA2 just to come close but who can stand being locked into Kirkwall for that long.
Fine, under your reasoning, why even play the game at all since gaming is not "necessary"? Why not just go out and enjoy the sun? Forget both games and move on with your life.
I didn't get lost in the instances, not sure why you brought that up because I didn't mention it, so don't speak for me. Moreover, I grew up on games like the Bard's Tale series on the PC XT from the 80s (not the Xbox version) where you had to draw a map yourself. What is random encounter fun to you is not the same for everybody, so don't assert it as a fact. Same with looting. Hey, at least you manned up and actually shared your own opinion this time around instead of relying on your unnamed source as proof.
The kicker as you called is not the amount of playthroughs or the hours, but how I enjoyed it. I certainly don't play games to oggle at time played. I play it for the enjoyment and the gameplay. If that's how you judge a game, then that's your prerogative.
btw, I'd hate to be your "anonymous friend." If my "friend" came to my place and ripped a game that he knew I had hopes for and urged me to play a spoilerish section of the game, I'd kick him out. Not because of the aforementioned reason, but because it shows his or her complete and utter disrespect for another's opinion.
My reasoning is pretty simple, games should be played and they shouldn't play themselves but that’s
what you get when a game is too easy. Who cares the combat is faster, if it requires less input from the user.
Never said you got lost, simply pointing out that felt quest markers on the quest map was so great when such indicators where in DA:O as well for the instances and not on the map. No one every pointed out how
they got lost or didn't know where to go. But I think I understand what your trying to convey, some people that can't be bothered to actually read so thosemarkers are handy for them.
Don't like random encounters, so does that mean its fact since your asserting your opinion on the matter. You should really stop making assumptions, you’re putting way too much emphasis on you believe is
to be right. Sorry, I don't like fast travel and I never did care for Whack a Mole either. I must say that I do find you entertaining though, my so called anonymous source can't post on the registered forums but I'm sure he'll find
this interesting. And don't worry about me manning up, my posts are everywhere and many of which have received great input from the community, and quite a few who asked my permission to quote/post them elsewhere. It seems DA:2 may not be as enjoyable or replayable as you think but don't let that stop you I can't wait for your next colorful remark. Actually, I can. Sorry, about bursting your bubble. I wonder if this is the part where you bring ego into this?
Your an interesting person, but your deflection skills are grade school at best. Should I make an assumption, and show you why those that make them only make themselves out to be the first three letters of the word. I'll make it clear for you, DA:0 provided two to three times more content that was not only enjoyable but a challenge.
I'll be fair, I'd hate to be you since you’re so full of contradictions saying one thing then doing the opposite. And let's not forget your unfounded assumptions. My friend already knows the entire story of DA:2, there’s a thing out their called the Internet. Maybe you should look it up.
Oh yes, the ad hominem attacks when you're backed up to a corner; classic. Anybody can do that. See, here it comes: Please go back to school and get a real education (and, yes, that is an opinion for you to infer that you're uneducated). What I conveyed was that not everyone likes random encounters, and, yes, that is a fact no matter how you like it. I don't like random encounters, so that makes it "not everybody." Again, same applies with my looting comment, just reversed. If you can't figure out the difference between fact and opinion, then I suggest you to take a serious look at my third sentence (yes, go read it again). I like how you took a stab at me for implying not wanting to read when you clearly do not. You probably should really appreciate the quest markers, because they are made for people like you. Don't you like the irony?
As to length, as long as a game is over a certain length and covers the story to my satisfaction, it's fine. I'd rather have 20 hours of good gameplay than 60 hours of boredom and endless random encounters. See what I did there?
Right, your friend reads up on a story to an RPG, which is focused on plot development, before he actually plays it. Completely believable; almost as good as the alleged fact that you have anonymous friend based on your disrespectful behavior. Just make up facts along the way, right? Since we're at it, I'm actually a full-time game critic for a living who gets paid millions a year. Jamie Dimon (yes, go Google because that probably flew over your head) is my pal, and I give him input on his day to day operations. I can do it too, and some of those are actually true too.
In the end, this stupid argument started by my saying something akin to, "I like chocolate cake." You came back and said, "I gave my friend a piece of chocolate cake and he didn't like it. Your choice sucks." The implication through using my quote is that you didn't like my opinion and used a hearsay opinion to back it up. Weak. Don't tell people how to think with shoddy evidence - that's clearly what you wanted to do in "bursting bubbles" - and expect people to like it.
Lastly, I know it's the internet and expectations are low when it comes to grammar and spelling. However, your formatting and grammar are real bad. It hurts my eyes. I'm embarrassed for you, really; and the ass-u-me joke - awful. Sorry, while I might be interesting to you, you're a bore to me. Please use correct spacing and know the difference between "your" and "you're." It's something that spellchecker won't pick up for you, but it's basic grade school grammar, man.
You may go back to your CoD now.
You threw the gauntlet
and shouldn't be surprised that it hit you squarely in the face. You
could at least try not to be so predictable with your grade school tactics but
I think your to busy trying to champion your crusade. Seeing insults where there
is discussion but then again, most people believe the other person is like them
trying to achieve the same goal with similar tactics. The only problem with
this premise is that you only end up defeating yourself. Sorry, I am not your mirror nor do I want to
be.
Your
satisfaction was never up for debate, nor your enjoyment of DA:2 but it does seem
that when others point out the flaws/issues they have. You feel threatened and
lash out in the defense of a game. I would suggest taking your own advice and
go see the sun and when you’re done staring at it let me know how that went.
You really find
it hard to believe that someone is able to learn the story of DA:2 by searching
the internet? How many reviews, youtube videos, blogs, and forums do you think that
are out their dedicated to just video games? Feel free to google Orsino. Oh and
let me know how I made all that up. Cause I would love to take credit for you
tube.
Oh Wow, you’re a
game critic. That must be fun, don’t take this a wrong way but I’ll stick with my
usually reviewers. I find you conflicted and full of assumptions, it’s no
wonder that you lash out when faced with criticism. Just remember, they can’t
hurt you. Be Strong.
In the end, you
decided to challenge the premise of gameplay mechanics but when faced with an
opposing opinion you failed to validate yours. Instead, you spent your time
thrashing about. And for the record I like Vanilla, and he’s more of a pie
person. I do find it interesting that
your only defense is to attack those that don’t agree with you, and spend most
of time convincing yourself that someone disregards your opinion. I think the
real problem is that you don’t follow your own advice, that your unwilling to
look at things objectively or even try to have a discussion.
Don’t like my
formatting and grammar, well sadly English isn’t my first, let alone my second
language. Or like the wealth of information on the internet, people that speak
other languages must not exist. For the record, you are aware that each of your
attacks is not only childish but in this day and age I’m sure you can try
getting some new material. Next time, please try harder and come up with
something that actually required some thought. And I’m afraid you mistook my
interest in you, it is not one of awe but one of ridicule.
I’ll probably go
back to CoD as soon as I’m done with Warhammer. Try not to let your anger get
the better of you, I’m sure you’re a better person then you try to make
yourself out to be.
Are you maliciously using this formatting to confound me? It sucks, but it's not working. LOL I quoted you before you modified your post, so you can see how bad it originally was and what I have to deal with.
Considering you fail at a lot of things and chiefly among them, reading comprehension (I didn't say your mystery friend "couldn't," but questioned why he "would" - flew right over your head again, didn't it?), grasp of logic (for not knowing the difference between fact and opinion and how they apply), ability to detect sarcasm (admittedly, a tad harder in writing but not to the degree you're misinterpreting it), and bad attempts at humor - the mirror line in addition to the ass-u-me line, really? I sincerely hope for your sake and believe that English is not your native language.
For your information, I claimed that only some of those I asserted were true as a demonstration of playing the hearsay game, not all. For all you know, I might be your favorite reviewer because you have no idea who I am. For you to assert otherwise would be an obvious prevarication, but that was the point you seemed to have missed. But, I won't be cruel and continue to accuse you of lying. Hence, I'll let you in on a little secret, I'm not a game critic. So, pick one of the other facts that I might be forthright on.
Since you continue to play being the obtuse one, I never claimed that I didn't want someone to challenge my opinion. I find it disingenuous to use an anonymous source in proving the truth of the matter asserted. In other words, if you originally disputed my opinion with your own opinion, that would've been valid; but, using another's opinion to subtly attack is plain weak. It's fundamentally unfair because I wouldn't be able to challenge the hearsay opinion - in this case, your "friend's." Granted, you later used some of your own opinion, but it was too late and I already figured out your insincere intentions and decied to be trolled for fun (I should really ignore you, the troll, but what the heck, it's the weekend). And, for the record, I stated an opinion and you challenged me first, so don't play the victim card and the lame you're-better-than-this card when the going gets tough.
Not really my fault that English is not your first language. I'm fluent in both French and Mandarin as well, but I don't use that fact as a crutch. Again, man up.
Don't be butt-hurt because I don't find you as "interesting" and "entertaining" (your words, not mine, and now you change your story, oh, you and what you think pass for wit) as you find me. I'm sure at least some of your imaginary friends will still love you and want you to post all kinds of messages on their behalf and want you to play CoD with them.
I do commend you for paying close attention to "your" and "you're" this time around, following my advice. Hey, you do read my posts and take heed! But, to my disappointment, you screwed up the "than/then" difference at the very end...
btw, how do you figure I post these threads without the internet? This is after I mentioned I played with a PC XT back in the days when IBM DOS ruled. I've been here ever since internet started. You fail at logic, sir.
Modifié par Judge585, 09 avril 2011 - 09:42 .