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I won't say it will never occur, chances are we will run into simpler organisms first in our own solar system long before we meet advanced intelligent life.

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Junker4ce wrote...

While I hate to bring up a notion brought up in a completely different topic, it has never been actually proven that faster then light travel is possible.
I have no doubt that there are other alien lifeforms living in our galaxy, but because of physics, we may never be able to reach each other.


The flaw in your logic is this - you assume that because we are incapable means other species are as well.

Now I'm not saying FTL exists or that it doesn't. I'm simply saying at this point in human history we simply do not have the knowledge or means to say either way.

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ADelusiveMan wrote...

Junker4ce wrote...

While I hate to bring up a notion brought up in a completely different topic, it has never been actually proven that faster then light travel is possible.
I have no doubt that there are other alien lifeforms living in our galaxy, but because of physics, we may never be able to reach each other.


The flaw in your logic is this - you assume that because we are incapable means other species are as well.

Now I'm not saying FTL exists or that it doesn't. I'm simply saying at this point in human history we simply do not have the knowledge or means to say either way.



actually..... i look at it like theyll tell us what they want us to know. i wouldnt be suprised if the stargate story was true. heck look up project serpo... it may sound like a film but i do believe it...

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Tazzmission wrote...

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it would prove every religion is false and it would destroy what we know and call science. i still believe in ancient alien theory. if you dont know what that is look for a book titled chariotts of the gods. it'll honestly blow your mind and the book came out in the 70's

Actually it wouldn't disprove anything.  That book is full of speculative garbage, there isn't one shred of evidence in there that warrants further thought

you cant disprove it either. i can say the same for the holy bible or quaran and yet i cannot disprove it regardless on how i feel on religion.

I don't need to disprove it, the onus is on the writer of the book to prove his own ridiculous assertions.  Making far-fetched allusions to phenomena which are easily explainable is not proof.

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Tazzmission wrote...

Junker4ce wrote...

While I hate to bring up a notion brought up in a completely different topic, it has never been actually proven that faster then light travel is possible.
I have no doubt that there are other alien lifeforms living in our galaxy, but because of physics, we may never be able to reach each other.



just wanna throw this out there but for all you know the stuff we learn in school could be bull crap.... lets look at it this way, what better way to cover up such a truth is by saying the other planets like mercurey neptune and uranus is not a place for life. what if that was fabricated? what if the stuff we are told about the 9 planets is a lie to cover up multiple alien species?


Becasue the lie would have to be so profound that hundreds of thousands of people would have to be in on it. You'd have to tell me that all of these people would be watched 24/7 so they wouldn't crack under the pressure of keeping a secret that large.
Besides the fact, there are amature astronomers and physicists that you would have to hid this information from, one person stumbles onto the truth and the secrets out.

(The easiest way I could see alien contact being able to be hidden is the Stargate model. No spaceships needed to be hidden from preying eyes.)

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Naltair wrote...
I won't say it will never occur, chances are we will run into simpler organisms first in our own solar system long before we meet advanced intelligent life.

We already have run into simpler organisms in our own solar system.  Lol.

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Lukertin wrote...

Naltair wrote...
I won't say it will never occur, chances are we will run into simpler organisms first in our own solar system long before we meet advanced intelligent life.

We already have run into simpler organisms in our own solar system.  Lol.

I would like to see an article on this, all the ones I have seen have been debunked.

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ADelusiveMan wrote...

The flaw in your logic is this - you assume that because we are incapable means other species are as well.

Now I'm not saying FTL exists or that it doesn't. I'm simply saying at this point in human history we simply do not have the knowledge or means to say either way.


I wasn't saying were incapable. Physics is universal across the universe. (<-redundant sentance, i know) The sad things is that it's possible no species will ever be able to travel FTL.

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Anyone read Rendevous with Rama? In my opinion, that's the most realistic situation that can occur. An Alien craft with absolutely no human interest will enter our solar system, we'll all hold our breath in anticipation as it nears earth (maybe send up a small boarding party), then breath a sigh of disappointment when it leaves our solar system without the slightest acknowledgement of our existence.

Just don't read the other books. They are all trash, heaped with retarded fantasy.

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Lukertin wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Lukertin wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
it would prove every religion is false and it would destroy what we know and call science. i still believe in ancient alien theory. if you dont know what that is look for a book titled chariotts of the gods. it'll honestly blow your mind and the book came out in the 70's

Actually it wouldn't disprove anything.  That book is full of speculative garbage, there isn't one shred of evidence in there that warrants further thought

you cant disprove it either. i can say the same for the holy bible or quaran and yet i cannot disprove it regardless on how i feel on religion.

I don't need to disprove it, the onus is on the writer of the book to prove his own ridiculous assertions.  Making far-fetched allusions to phenomena which are easily explainable is not proof.



if thats true than why did the vatican announce to catholics that its ok to believe in aliens? that was announce in 2008.


heres a news cast on that btw




i can also show you a ufo in a painting was jesus was crusified that was found in a monistary in england

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Lukertin wrote...

Junker4ce wrote...

While I hate to bring up a notion brought up in a completely different topic, it has never been actually proven that faster then light travel is possible.
I have no doubt that there are other alien lifeforms living in our galaxy, but because of physics, we may never be able to reach each other.

Bigger obstacle:

Humanity has existed for barely 10,000 years.  Compared to how long this galaxy has existed, If the life of the galaxy to date was reduced to a week we'd have existed for like a second.  If other intelligent life exists what do you think are the chances that their existence will coincide with the time of our existence?


I would say pretty good.:alien:

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ufo in jesus painting that was found



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Naltair wrote...

Lukertin wrote...

Naltair wrote...
I won't say it will never occur, chances are we will run into simpler organisms first in our own solar system long before we meet advanced intelligent life.

We already have run into simpler organisms in our own solar system.  Lol.

I would like to see an article on this, all the ones I have seen have been debunked.


http://www.seonode.c...e-on-meteorite/

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Tazzmission wrote...

ufo in jesus painting that was found



This reminds me of something somewhat similar - The X-Files - Season 6 finale (part 1) - Biogenesis

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guys the universe expanded faster than light when it was made so it is possible we just have no idea how to do it now.

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ADelusiveMan wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

ufo in jesus painting that was found



This reminds me of something somewhat similar - The X-Files - Season 6 finale (part 1) - Biogenesis




chris carter got his ideas from actual findings like this painting but added his own twist to the mix. steven speilberg said when he did close encounters he got the idea of grey aliens from the betty and barney hill case from the 60's? keep in mind betty hill drew a star map wich 10 years later they found 2 planets titled zeta reticullie 1 and 2. i highly recomend that people read the hills case because that was amazing.

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Lukertin wrote...

Naltair wrote...

Lukertin wrote...

Naltair wrote...
I won't say it will never occur, chances are we will run into simpler organisms first in our own solar system long before we meet advanced intelligent life.

We already have run into simpler organisms in our own solar system.  Lol.

I would like to see an article on this, all the ones I have seen have been debunked.


http://www.seonode.c...e-on-meteorite/


Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
(That goes for this link as well.)

http://ca.io9.com/57...ed-this-weekend

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Lukertin wrote...
http://www.seonode.c...e-on-meteorite/

No date on that site, such a find would obviously have scientific journals, it would make the search for life on Mars or the moons of Jupiter/Jovian planets moot, I don't think this is credible.

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Tazzmission wrote...
i can also show you a ufo in a painting was jesus was crusified that was found in a monistary in england

A medieval era painting of an event that alledgedly occured 15 centuries before said painting was made is evidence of alien life.  Ridiculous.  Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is?  Why didn't a single Greek or Roman historian write about UFOs if they were supposedly so commonplace during that time?  People during that era of time were very sophisticated, their knowledge of science & technology was on par with and in areas, exceeded that of, 17th century Europe.  The idea that not a single one of them knew enough about aliens to write about them while a painter who didn't even live during that era of time did is the stupidest suggestion I have ever heard anyone make.

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Tomorrow at noon.

Bangkok time.

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Lukertin wrote...

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Why would they want to visit us?
We screw each other over for ridiculous concepts. (money, religion)
We willingly polute our own backyard and despoil the one and only environment we have to inhabit.


So does every advanced lifeform that exists on this planet, it's silly to assume life wouldn't evolve elsewhere without similar tendencies.


If that is the case, they likely won't have FTL capability either, therefore, we'll never meet.

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ADelusiveMan wrote...

Junker4ce wrote...

While I hate to bring up a notion brought up in a completely different topic, it has never been actually proven that faster then light travel is possible.
I have no doubt that there are other alien lifeforms living in our galaxy, but because of physics, we may never be able to reach each other.


The flaw in your logic is this - you assume that because we are incapable means other species are as well.

Now I'm not saying FTL exists or that it doesn't. I'm simply saying at this point in human history we simply do not have the knowledge or means to say either way.


Any race capable of surviving the stress they put on their own world would likely have no sympathy for us. They would expect us to prove we are worthy of survival and space travel/colonization.

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Tomorrow at noon.

Bangkok time.


what?

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guys your over thinking this, its really simple

look at the map of the visible universe, count the star and the planets..... when your done let me know

and btw unless the nay Sayers can go check every inch in our universe I will be just as right as they are :)

life is everywhere even on Mars (check the new Methane immersion levels they detected really cool stuff)

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this is a video of us airforce, army and scientists that are pushing for full disclosure. listen to what they say and see where we are now....



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