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[Tazzmission]

himmelgeher wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

himmelgeher wrote...
Oh. I get it. You're retarded.

what are you like 11? go away and go listen to your rebecca black album you barney and friends reject

No. And I think knowing who Rebecca Black is makes you more immature than me (and no, I'm not going to look her up). I think humans are pretty awesome and didn't need alien help (which we never got) to get civilization going. I don't buy into the idea that we've ever been visited buy aliens because it's stupid. Right here, right now, I take the position that if you believe that aliens helped build the wonders of the ancient world, then you are a retard. As in an IQ of 80. What I'm saying is you're stupid.

hey if you wanna see imature go look in a mirror because your little comment torwards me wasnt cool man. if your gona call someone out you better damn well be ready to take some hits

[himmelgeher]

Naltair wrote...

I don't think we need to turn this into a god made aliens or not debate we are already kind of off the trail already.

You expected a thread about aliens to stay on topic. That's cute.

[Naltair]

himmelgeher wrote...

Naltair wrote...

I don't think we need to turn this into a god made aliens or not debate we are already kind of off the trail already.

You expected a thread about aliens to stay on topic. That's cute.

Not on topic but a religious debate will not do anyone any good.

[AdmiralCheez]

Naltair wrote...

Zeus also slept with a bull. He was not exactly a picky dude.

Nonono, he WAS the bull.  Dig it.

[Naltair]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Naltair wrote...

Zeus also slept with a bull. He was not exactly a picky dude.

Nonono, he WAS the bull.  Dig it.

I need to brush up on my mythology

[Praetor Knight]

One funny thing about technology is that the knowledge resides in too few of us and if all you have is paper, papyrus, animal hide, clay and stone to record your history then when those items fade away then that knowledge is lost.

Humanity's greatest loss was the destruction of the Library of Alexandria so anything that the Ptolomies tried to preserve was lost.

I want to believe that the ancient wonders of the world were made my humans and that we had lost that knowledge over the ages.

Imagine if we suddenly lost NASA personnel for any reason, we'd lose all of their knowledge and experience. I imagine that could have happened in our early past as well.

[Lukertin]

Tazzmission wrote...

Lukertin wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
keep in mind the bible states god created us in his image.

Explain Egypt.

what do you want me to explain? ill do my best to answer.

God[s] created man in his image.  Ok.  So why did the Egyptians envision their gods as having animal heads?  Why did the Hindus envision their gods as having multiple arms, or the elephant?  Ancient civilizations worshipped human analogues almost as much as they worshipped the Sun, the Moon, the Stars, and various animals that instilled fear in them or were important to their survival.  If aliens visited and people worshipped these aliens as Gods why would they also worship animals and the Sun

[Pwener2313]

Oh, he was the bull. makes perfect sense, but that is not the case where the minotaur was conceived though.

[ADelusiveMan]

himmelgeher wrote...

Naltair wrote...

I don't think we need to turn this into a god made aliens or not debate we are already kind of off the trail already.

You expected a thread about aliens to stay on topic. That's cute.

Dude. Seriously. Stop being a dick. Nobody did anything to you to provoke the responses you've been giving.

[himmelgeher]

Tazzmission wrote...
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I'm saying it's rediculous to say that humans didn't get where we are on our own. I'm quick to dismiss others when what they're saying is so clearly rediculous. So we don't know how the Egyptians built the pyrimds, or who built stone henge how. You're really saying that the more logical approach is to say "ZOMG ALIENZ DID IT!". That's a rediculous and baseless assertion.

[Naltair]

We have much better preservation methods and redundancies that will preserve much of our knowledge for as long as we have a working civilization.

Unless we go crazy and start nuking each other and destroying the internet.

[Lukertin]

Praetor Shepard wrote...
Humanity's greatest loss was the destruction of the Library of Alexandria so anything that the Ptolomies tried to preserve was lost.

You mean Western Civilization.

India and China have written singular texts with more words and pages than every thing Europe has put out, combined.

[ADelusiveMan]

Naltair wrote...

Unless we go crazy and start nuking each other and destroying the internet.

Mutually assured destruction. Gotta love it.

[AdmiralCheez]

Naltair wrote...

I need to brush up on my mythology

Hey, it's not something you're quizzed on every day, so I don't blame ya.

I goofed on a few things today as well--Andromeda is NOT the closest galaxy to the Milky Way; there are actually a few smaller galaxies that are much closer, orbiting us, in fact!  I also goofed on my ME lore: the rachni DID, in fact, find the Mu Relay, which is why talking with the queen was so important, since she carried the memory of its location.

Herp derp all around.

[Naltair]

Lukertin wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...
Humanity's greatest loss was the destruction of the Library of Alexandria so anything that the Ptolomies tried to preserve was lost.

You mean Western Civilization.

India and China have written singular texts with more words and pages than every thing Europe has put out, combined.

In fact much of the Western knowledge went to the east to Persia and then came back to Europe.

[Praetor Knight]

Naltair wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

And considering that genetically we can track ****** sapiens sapiens to like ~100,000 years ago, those sunken cities found worldwide leave us with many, many compelling questions and more than our fair share of theories.

And many ancient texts like those Hindu texts deserve greater study, IMHO.

What ancient sunken cities that predate mankind?

Well, not mankind, they predate recorded human history. There are ruins underwater near Greece, India, Japan, the Black Sea region, Cuba and a few others I can't remember off-hand right now.

[Naltair]

ADelusiveMan wrote...

Naltair wrote...

Unless we go crazy and start nuking each other and destroying the internet.

Mutually assured destruction. Gotta love it.

I do love me some MAD.

[Pwener2313]

[quote]Lukertin wrote...

what do you want me to explain? ill do my best to answer.[/quote]
God[s] created man in his image.  Ok.  So why did the Egyptians envision their gods as having animal heads?  Why did the Hindus envision their gods as having multiple arms, or the elephant?  Ancient civilizations worshipped human analogues almost as much as they worshipped the Sun, the Moon, the Stars, and various animals that instilled fear in them or were important to their survival.  If aliens visited and people worshipped these aliens as Gods why would they also worship animals and the Sun

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I can explain this one.....

Just because it says he made us in his own image, doesn't mean he is like us. He doesn't. All those civilizations created what they perceived as higher beings. they chose things that were not like them, because how can something like them be a God if they're not Gods themselves right?

aliens don't exist, let's get that out of the way. We are the only planet with intelligent life in the galaxy(s). Our future is to coloniza these planets in the future for eternity infinitum. They worshipped because they needed to believe in something, and they chose the nearest thing that they could worship.

[ADelusiveMan]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

Naltair wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

And considering that genetically we can track ****** sapiens sapiens to like ~100,000 years ago, those sunken cities found worldwide leave us with many, many compelling questions and more than our fair share of theories.

And many ancient texts like those Hindu texts deserve greater study, IMHO.

What ancient sunken cities that predate mankind?

Well, not mankind, they predate recorded human history. There are ruins underwater near Greece, India, Japan, the Black Sea region, Cuba and a few others I can't remember off-hand right now.

I do believe a sunken city was found off the southern coast of Spain recently. Some are claiming it to be Atlantis.

[habitat 67]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

One funny thing about technology is that the knowledge resides in too few of us and if all you have is paper, papyrus, animal hide, clay and stone to record your history then when those items fade away then that knowledge is lost.

Humanity's greatest loss was the destruction of the Library of Alexandria so anything that the Ptolomies tried to preserve was lost.

I want to believe that the ancient wonders of the world were made my humans and that we had lost that knowledge over the ages.

Imagine if we suddenly lost NASA personnel for any reason, we'd lose all of their knowledge and experience. I imagine that could have happened in our early past as well.

There will be a time, after the complete digital conversion, when someone will pull the plug and all the harddrives will be wiped. Humans will have forgotten how to hold pen to paper, much less grow papyrus. We are more vulnurable than ever.
If we are lucky and what remains of our stone tablets has not been completely obliterated by war and acts of theft or vandalism, historians of our future will still have them to allow us glimpses into what our past was like. That and a lot of plastic solo cups.

[Praetor Knight]

habitat 67 wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

Regarding our attempts to contact intelligent life out in the 'verse, doesn't SETI only track certain radio frequencies? I mean shouldn't we monitor all forms of potential transmissions?

And what if transmissions are being sent, but the signals are encoded or transmitted broad spectrum? One way to thing about broad spectrum is how the Internet compartmentalizes data packets that are disassembled for transmission and then reassembled at its destination.

Could also be that there's a whole lot of satellites up there interfering with the transmissions.

True, there is a fair share of interference from what I've read and heard about.

[Tazzmission]

Lukertin wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Lukertin wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
keep in mind the bible states god created us in his image.

Explain Egypt.

what do you want me to explain? ill do my best to answer.

God[s] created man in his image.  Ok.  So why did the Egyptians envision their gods as having animal heads?  Why did the Hindus envision their gods as having multiple arms, or the elephant?  Ancient civilizations worshipped human analogues almost as much as they worshipped the Sun, the Moon, the Stars, and various animals that instilled fear in them or were important to their survival.  If aliens visited and people worshipped these aliens as Gods why would they also worship animals and the Sun

:sigh: according to some ancient alien theories there is a possibility that the imagrey we see when it comes to the centur, egyptian gods, and etc that maybe et's were creating some form of cross hybrid. now i may believe in the charriots of the gods book but the person who introduced the idea of what im posting is a diffrent guy. now i admit im 50/50 on it but i also cant say it couldnt be possible, imagine after the destruction of the dinosaurs and maybe aliens thought hey heres a planet that can be fixed up, lets create some people and teach them how to rebuild this world. i know it sounds crazy but anything is possible. and dont forget evolution was never entirley proven and scientists have found a new gene in dna wich i forgot what it was called but they say its inactive

Modifié par Tazzmission, 01 avril 2011 - 07:10 .

[himmelgeher]

ADelusiveMan wrote...

himmelgeher wrote...

Naltair wrote...

I don't think we need to turn this into a god made aliens or not debate we are already kind of off the trail already.

You expected a thread about aliens to stay on topic. That's cute.

Dude. Seriously. Stop being a dick. Nobody did anything to you to provoke the responses you've been giving.

Nobody did anything? What they did was insult my species. What they did was tell me that we'd still be flopping around in the mud if it weren't for lizards in the sky. What they did was say that humanity amounts to nothing. You don't get to insult humans and expect me not to have anything to say about it. So yes, if people decide to say that our greatest accomplishments were through alien intervention, I'm going to be a dick about it.

[Naltair]

I disagree with that notion Pwener2313, it seems statistically unlikely that life processes that evolved on Earth could only happen here considering the randomness of life to begin with. I mean the reign of humanity is but a blink compared to the domination of earlier species on this planet, i.e. dinosaurs and their precursors.

It's quite probable that given the literally infinite amount of galaxies in the universe that the universe is probably teeming with life, intelligent life at that.

Edit: The largest hurdle is distance and technological means.

Modifié par Naltair, 01 avril 2011 - 07:13 .

[Praetor Knight]

habitat 67 wrote...

There will be a time, after the complete digital conversion, when someone will pull the plug and all the harddrives will be wiped. Humans will have forgotten how to hold pen to paper, much less grow papyrus. We are more vulnurable than ever.
If we are lucky and what remains of our stone tablets has not been completely obliterated by war and acts of theft or vandalism, historians of our future will still have them to allow us glimpses into what our past was like. That and a lot of plastic solo cups.

All we need is for the Sun to grow weaker for more cosmic radiation to hit Earth, or for our magnetic poles to flip again. And then there are solar flares as well.

Not to mention other forms of potential calamity, and there are few.
But we can persevere