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[Destroy Raiden_]

Yeah big explosive title but bare with me....

Vigil said people fled and went to others they trusted they were taken in by these people but what those fleeing to them didnt' know was that these supposedly nice people were infact already controlled by the reapers they either killed or gave to the reapers any refugees they had.

I would be disappointed if this didn't come to be so in ME3 people betraying one another due to indoctrination and I think Asari are the ones for the job.

No other race can link their minds and nervous systems to another. We've seen several examples were Asari are easily manipulated or can become the manipulators.

Let's see some of our cases

Consort - Manipulator acting as an oracle. Something is obviously wrong with her girls the one human says she felt called to come back indicating strong other worldly connections with the consort. She says herself she is something to everyone yet no one knows what that something is till she sees them. She is indoctrinating them both client and workers. She would be a sleeper agent or more active agent ongoing for the reapers.


Mornith - She shows us what Ardak Yakshi are capable of they possess minds and can make people love pain and give her mindless devotion sound familiar? More indoctrination she's not a disease she's a weapon just waiting for the right person to come along who knows the manual. These people would most likely get exposed to the sound wave of a reaper and become indoctrinated or willingly join up sense the reapers will allow them freedom to consum at will.

Girl working for Rachni - Sure I don't know her name but those of us who saved the Rachni Queen meet this girl she seems out of it and when pressed about where the Queen is she says she has no active clue the Queen sealed off this information from her and once she needs to know it she will and will return to the Queen similar to being called by the Queen. She shows that a sleeper agent is very possible she lives her life doing works for the Rachni willingly but part of her memory his hidden from her and will be unsealed later when its time. Reaper sleeper agents could essentially be programmed to live a normal unassuming life then when the reapers call they turn onto their true forms and start doing what is needed.

Asari Corpse on Noveria - We all saw on Noveria how the Rachni Queen used an Asari Corpse to translate for her even dead the Asari are still useful. Way to scare the pants off your enemy! They kill one she falls over gets right back up bullet holes and all and starts shooting at you! if that won't give your enemies fear nothing will you'd have to rocket launcher all the time to stop the from going Shibito on you!

Vigil said that those species who fulfilled their purpose were left to starve and die what if earlier versions of the Asari were kept, modified, and essentially unleashed into the new growing universe they are one of the oldest and mysterious species to date they also have the potential to make great weapons for the reapers time and time again we see how easily they fall to the reaper or other mental influences it would be relatively easy to use that weakness against them if they haven't already.

Ok so let's start the debate and keep it friendly people!

[CmdrKankrelat]

Holy crap I hope not, the asari are my favorite race! But, the way you lay it out, I'd never have thought of it before, but it's a very compelling case. Combine your consort idea with the theory floating around out there that the Citadel is a massive indoctrination device, and you have a perfect storm there. If this were to happen in-game, especially the zombie-troops part, I'd be thrilled, since that'd be great storytelling and a good job of bringing in details from earlier games. Then again, I'm really hoping the rachni thing will work out and they'll help us. I'd be shocked if it didn't.

[Katamariguy]

I can smell the paranoia.

[Zulu_DFA]

Embrace control, Shepard

[Destroy Raiden_]

Aw Zulu I really thought you'd comment. You of all people should be able to see the potential. I mean you dissected sheps trial and the realistic charges that could apply. Come on nothing? I'm not trying to be a jerk but I was interested in hearing your take or do you think some other species could fit the bill? I'm sad only 3 people so far...

[JG The Gamer]

Harbinger doesn't think too much of the asari. And I quote:

“Asari; reliance upon alien species for reproduction shows genetic weakness.”

[Devbo22]

I'm not sure. Assuming the previous cycle was normal, it takes the Reapers centuries to wipe out the galaxy. Unless we are fighting reapers for 200 years in ME3, I don't think there would be enough time for people to be indoctrinated, planted as sleeper agents all over the galaxy, and then to betray their community. We might see a little bit of betrayal and such, but I don't think we will see it on a grand scale. The reapers are probably desperate now and will need new strategies to combat a hopefully aware by this point galaxy.

Modifié par Devbo22, 01 avril 2011 - 03:54 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

Asari aren't fit to be an enemy on a large scale; they just not threatening enough, and you can't really get eager to fight a bunch of asari as would with a group of humans, krogan, batarians or turians.

[Mars Nova]

I wouldn't be surprised if there ends up being some connection between the asari and the Reapers. There's too much evidence for there not to be, unless it's a red herring.

[James2912]

oh boy, no the asari aren't a bunch of traitors. The council might sell out hummanity as a whole though in order to supposedly save their own necks.

[arc00ta]

While it would make a good plot twist, it seems about as likely as Harbinger assuming direct control of Shepard thanks to his implants.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Opinions peeps?

[TheSweetGirl]

I think it would be a good plot twist. Despite the Reaper's views on them, they could use their abilities against the galaxy. The Asari are manipulative and Aria hints on being more to their species than what people think.

I would love to see it.

[Gentleman Moogle]

At this point, I don't think we'll be seeing a "puppet race". There's no need for it. The Reapers are here, and they are the End. They are massive galaxy-cleansing machines that have been killing advanced organic life for longer than most stars have been in existence. They have no need of "avatars" or "puppet armies"... Not ones that aren't husks, anyways. Now that they're in-country, I think they'll wind up doing what they do best; killin' things that breathe.

[Pwener2313]

Indoctrination can't bring people from the dead, just brainwashes them. that's what Dragonsteeth is for. I would indeed like for a race to ally with the Reapers actually.

[ciaweth]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Indoctrination can't bring people from the dead, just brainwashes them. that's what Dragonsteeth is for. I would indeed like for a race to ally with the Reapers actually.

My guess is hanar will do this.  My guess is based upon this CDN entry (one of the official BioWare ones).

[Thargorichiban]

I'd be more interested in knowing whether an Asari could conceivably conceive with a Reaper partner.

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Eh?

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Eh? Embrace that eternity and such? They have some organic sludge in them, I'm sure some Asari somewhere could hit that... But if that was the case... *gasp* Doesn't that mean an Argat-Yashi (sp?) could kill a Reaper all on her lonesome?

[Shockwave81]

JG The Gamer wrote...

Harbinger doesn't think too much of the asari. And I quote:

“Asari; reliance upon alien species for reproduction shows genetic weakness.”

How ironic, given the Reapers' intentions in Mass Effect 2...

[Destroy Raiden_]

Bump cuz this subject is starting to resurface again.

[corporal doody]

this topic is lose

[amcnow]

I honestly think it's more likely the Batarians would be that race. The seeds of contempt for the galaxy are already there. At this point, it may be easy enough for the Reapers to pursuede the Batarians to willingly help them in exchange for being spared (with their fingers crossed, of course).

With that said, the OP does make some good points for the Asari. I wouldn't be surprised if the Reapers used both. The Humans are the most vocal about the Reapers; but only a small group (Cerberus) are making all the noise. That means most Humans would be more concerned with a Batarian raid, especially after the events of Arrival. The Batarians could be used to pre-occupy the Humans while the Asari (with their silver-tongues and promiscuity) befriend and betray everyone else.

[corporal doody]

amcnow wrote...

I honestly think it's more likely the Batarians would be that race. The seeds of contempt for the galaxy are already there. At this point, it may be easy enough for the Reapers to pursuede the Batarians to willingly help them in exchange for being spared (with their fingers crossed, of course).

With that said, the OP does make some good points for the Asari. I wouldn't be surprised if the Reapers used both. The Humans are the most vocal about the Reapers; but only a small group (Cerberus) are making all the noise. That means most Humans would be more concerned with a Batarian raid, especially after the events of Arrival. The Batarians could be used to pre-occupy the Humans while the Asari (with their silver-tongues and promiscuity) befriend and betray everyone else.

??  source please

[Lvl20DM]

I wouldn't be surprised if some members of all species take to worshiping or joining the Reapers. Even humans (and without indoctrination). They do represent an almost god-like level of power.

If any species sides with the Reapers, I'm going to guess it'll be the Batarians. Their leadership would be susceptible to indoctrination given their hatred for the rest of the galaxy. I'm partial to this idea, but that's partly because I want a Batarian squad-mate.

[tonnactus]

The asari could be an artificial race.Melding with other aliens(and they find them attrative somehow,even salarians),all have biotics...
Sounds strange enough.

[2kgnsiika]

The only cycle we really know about is the Prothean one, so we really don't know what the Reapers do to species they deem unfit for ascension. Most likely, of course, they'll just kill them.