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[Kijin]

Talladarr wrote...

I think not. When playing Origins I beat it with all three classes and almost every origin story, but what I noticed, and what pissed my off so much, was that certain damage boosters that SHOULD work against the Archdemon(those runs that add damage Vs Darkspawn and the +10 damage vs Dragons form Yusaris and Duncan's Dagger) have NO effect on the Archdemon, meaning it neither counts as a Dragon NOR a Darkspawn, therefore it COULD easilly have a soul.

Uh, no - Bioware disabled the damage boosters to increase the difficulty of the fight. This is something Bioware does all the time. Had they left those damage modifiers on, the final fight would have been much easier than it already was. 

Another point - Lorvincent was arguing that Darkspawn have no soul and he's right. Nobody is denying the fact that the Archdemon has a soul - it has a soul of an Old God. 

[Talladarr]

Kijin wrote...
Another point - Lorvincent was arguing that Darkspawn have no soul and he's right. Nobody is denying the fact that the Archdemon has a soul - it has a soul of an Old God. 

"An Archdemon is an Old God, awakened and tainted by Darkspawn. Believe that or not, history says that it's a fearsom and immortal thing, and only fools ignore history." ~~ Flemeth, DA:O, right after Ostagar.

[lorvincent]

Talladarr wrote...

Kijin wrote...
Another point - Lorvincent was arguing that Darkspawn have no soul and he's right. Nobody is denying the fact that the Archdemon has a soul - it has a soul of an Old God. 

"An Archdemon is an Old God, awakened and tainted by Darkspawn. Believe that or not, history says that it's a fearsom and immortal thing, and only fools ignore history." ~~ Flemeth, DA:O, right after Ostagar.

The archdemon is infected by the taint, but nobody considers it actually one of the darkspawn.  The reason for this is because it still has its own will, and self awareness, which darkspawn (at the time of Origins), lacked.  The explanation for why only Grey Wardens can kill an Archdemon is because, if killed, the Old God's soul flies to the closest tainted creature.  Without the Wardens present, that would always be darkspawn: Souless creatures fully capable of harbouring a Old God's soul.  But when a Warden slays the Archdemon in close combat, they are the physically closest tainted being to the Archdemon.  When the two souls collide, both souls are extinguished.

Once again, this has all been stated.  Quote as you like, but if you do not buy the statements, play Awakening and go check out the Silverite Mine experiment room.  That is what we like to call empirical evidence.

Modifié par lorvincent, 03 avril 2011 - 09:07 .