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[Gamer Ftw]

I just can't stand her!
She thinks she is so morally superior to everyone.
She can't even talk to a guy.
AND she is a horrible captain.
she ignores rumors of raped elf woman.
The streets are full of criminals she won't do anything about.
"derp I don't send my guards to fight gangs in dark corners but if you would like to help" No!!!
She calls you a highwayman and attacks you.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XnaK4MAUYo
she watches you like a creepy stalker.
I would like to get rid of her.
If not is there an option to get rid of her as guard captain?

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 01 avril 2011 - 07:27 .

[Addai]

What?! No. You can't kill Aveline. No one can, not even the Maker.

Just don't talk to her or do her quests, if you're that bothered.

[Herr Uhl]

Then tell her to get lost.

[Gamer Ftw]

that doesn't really answer my question.
If i do that she is still guard captain.

[Kawamura]

Maybe if your response to a disliked public official is "I wanna kill 'em", she has a reason to feel morally superior?

[syllogi]

Does she even become Guard Captain if you don't go do her first quests once you're in Kirkwall? I know that she doesn't marry Donnic if you don't do The Long Road, so I assume that her Act One quest can be ignored too.

[hoorayforicecream]

You can't kill Aveline. She will leave your group if you side with the mages and you don't have sufficient friendship or rivalry.

[Sherbet Lemon]

Gamer Ftw wrote...
She calls you a highwayman and attacks you.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XnaK4MAUYo

That was one of the most amazing things I have ever seen.  I'm sorry OP.  I think that made me love her even more.

Modifié par Village Idiot, 01 avril 2011 - 06:07 .

[Gamer Ftw]

attacking hawke makes you love her why?
she is rubbish at her job if she would leave peacefully there wouldn't have to be death by Hawk.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 01 avril 2011 - 06:10 .

[Shepard Lives]

Try to kill her, see how well that goes.

I'll reserve a bed for you in intensive treatment.

Modifié par Shepard Lives, 01 avril 2011 - 06:14 .

[Gamer Ftw]

lol Hawke could beat her.
all she really does is sit in the keep ignoring crime.

[LobselVith8]

What's the difference between having a friendship with Aveline and having a rivalry with her?

[Eirnae]

Wow .. I never thought I'd see this topic pop up.

You can dislike Aveline all you want, far be it from me to tell you what to think or feel.  However, why the urge to kill her?  Why kill anyone just because you don't like them?  If we go by this philosophy, Kirkwall would be nothing but a heap of corpses by the end of Act 1.  Well, alright, a larger heap of corpses.

I'm pretty much with Shepard Lives on this.  See you in intensive care.  I'll ask Merrill to fluff a pillow for you.

[Trophonius]

Those patrols outside and inside of Kirkwall (especially Lowtown, a place that needs supervision most of all), the exposure of an underhanded captain, and trying to reason with the Arishok so that the city doesn't go to hell makes her sh*tty at her job? How? All this time in Kirkwall, she's practically treated it as her new home and its people's well-being constantly in her mind. Being Guard-Captain is something she takes pride in; not because of the title, but because of the knowledge that she has far greater control over the innocent lives she can save.

By no means does she ever go without faults, but neither is she a shining example of someone who lackadaisically executes their job, especially when it's something she loves and devotes her life doing.

[Gamer Ftw]

Like i said I would like her to GTHO does anyone know if you can get her to go back to ferelden after the conversation shown in the above video? If so in what act does she leave?
The streets are full of criminals is arresting them not her job?
Oh the fact that she heard an elf girl was assualted and did nothing? then wants to arrest her brothers for doing something about it?
And why would Hawk lose to her you keep saying that?

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 01 avril 2011 - 06:49 .

[highcastle]

Wow, I'm surprised to see all this hate about Aveline. I don't think she's bad at her job at all. As far as the elf girl you mention, Aveline says she's investigating this crime but there's no conclusive proof. And the girl's brothers took the law into their own hands instead of giving the guards time enough to conduct an investigation. While this whole line is tragic, it's also realistic. If something like this were to happen in real life, you wouldn't be allowed to enact retribution on the offender. You have to let the police do their jobs. I imagine in a feudal setting without forensics, where people like elves are treated as second-class citizens, it's much harder to uphold the law. This isn't a reflection of Aveline, it's a reflection of the times.

I personally adore Aveline, though. She's a strong female character trying to do the best she can in a rather corrupt city. She doesn't send her guards unprepared into the streets after dark because they would get killed. That's not cowardly, it's realistic. Again, there are areas in the cities all over the world where the cops won't go because they would be killed. It's sad, but it's a fact.

[Gamer Ftw]

Well prepare the guards and take out the coterie and other gangs It's her job to make the streets safe even Hightown has attacks at night.
after ten years or so in the guard she improves NOT ONE THING.
as for the strong female character part I disagree she attacks Hawk because she disagrees with her.
She seems to be a bit of a self righteous, hypocrite, control freak.
I think the reason she wants to be guard captain is because she's a control freak not that she cares about enforcing the law.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 01 avril 2011 - 08:06 .

[SolidBeast]

And I'm surprised that you people are surprised at someone disliking a character. Some have the option to kill characters they hate for whatever reason and like to use that option, so why wouldn't someone want to kill Aveline? The OP is asking a legitimate question. No need to act baffled by it if you disagree.

[Torax]

highcastle wrote...

Wow, I'm surprised to see all this hate about Aveline. I don't think she's bad at her job at all. As far as the elf girl you mention, Aveline says she's investigating this crime but there's no conclusive proof. And the girl's brothers took the law into their own hands instead of giving the guards time enough to conduct an investigation. While this whole line is tragic, it's also realistic. If something like this were to happen in real life, you wouldn't be allowed to enact retribution on the offender. You have to let the police do their jobs. I imagine in a feudal setting without forensics, where people like elves are treated as second-class citizens, it's much harder to uphold the law. This isn't a reflection of Aveline, it's a reflection of the times.

I personally adore Aveline, though. She's a strong female character trying to do the best she can in a rather corrupt city. She doesn't send her guards unprepared into the streets after dark because they would get killed. That's not cowardly, it's realistic. Again, there are areas in the cities all over the world where the cops won't go because they would be killed. It's sad, but it's a fact.

Actually keep in mind more the situation of the Elves. Generally they are considered inferior. Maybe Aveline may be sympathetic to them? I doubt most her guards are. Most of them all live in the Alienage. Remember Kelder? How well was that going to go? So then one of HER guards basically raped their sister. Why should they have any faith in the system? What track record in your time in Kirkwall gives the Elves any idea that the humans care? Was there even a hint on Humans caring about Elves besides maybe Duncan and Alistair.

Aveline is the one who instigates and provokes the Arishok. It's why you aren't allowed to get rid of her. Aveline also doesn't take the missing women investigation seriously. Lastly judged by all the street cleaning Hawke has to do in all 3 acts? I'm not sure as many of the guards are good at their jobs. I even fought some of them in front of Guards that did absolutely nothing...

[Medhia Nox]

"You're a Highwayman, you stumbled into being Champion." - Aveline

That is completely the truth for this game. I love Aveline even more for having the balls to say it.

[Gamer Ftw]

How am I a highwayman exactly?
denifition of highwayman :a thief who robs travelers on a road.
When did I do that did I miss that scene? 

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 01 avril 2011 - 08:41 .

[maegi46]

Aveline is the reason your mother dies. She knew about the remains you found of Ninette and Emeric's investigation which ultimately lead to his death. She sees him as a "nuisance" and wants you to make him leave her alone. Yeah she does a great job. All but the NOT part. I realize that us clearing out gangs is part of the game and how we level, but from an RPG standpoint, that means she is not doing her job. Those guards outside the cave during Magistrates Orders are doing nothing and have done nothing for years, knowing the magistrates son is a sick serial killer. Because it's elven children? BS. I can't see the logic. In real life that sick basta*d would receive extreme prejudice from any cop and probably never see a jail or a courtroom. We get Aveline into the city...we saved her before that from darkspawn. We indenture ourselves or our uncle does...either way to get her into the city, for a YEAR. While she gets a nice guardsman job. Let's not forget also that she makes sure Carver won't get hired too. I know the arguments will be , but that's how it was written. Yep it is, but it doesn't make her as wonderful as some of you want to paint her as. Then she knows one of her guards raped an elf girl and it lead to their murder. Does she care about the girl being raped? No, only about getting revenge on the elves that dared to defend their sister. How dare they?? I can't help but agree with the OP here.

[DoNotIngest]

I never really liked Aveline; She always seemed like a hypocrite, lecturing me while she dismisses many crimes that lead to major BS later on in the game. I'd probably kill her for fun in Act 3, if I could, as I never use her.

[Rheia]

I don't hate her, and neither do I want to kill her, but I much prefer the rivalry path with her.
Still haven't tried the 'goodbye, captain' option in her 'return to Ferelden' dialog though. Might try to dig up the save and see if she leaves.

I also imagine that if you don't have her rivalry/friendship or personal quests done and you side with mages, she'll oppose you?

[Torax]

Aveline was good at one important thing though. She wasn't willing to give into Meredith. Especially when being pressured to just hand the entire guard over to the Templars.

Modifié par Torax, 01 avril 2011 - 09:07 .