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[Jim_uk]

Moondoggie wrote...

Cd projeckt trolls Bioware yet they used Bioware's Aurora engine to make the first Witcher game. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you XD Silly Polish people

Did Bioware let them use that engine for free? if not then CD Projekt owe them nothing. On the subject of engines, look what CD Projekt managed to do with that old engine and then look at DA2.

[Dreadstruck]

If you followed the first the witcher you know there is a legend of a really strong witcher.. A female one

Newsflash: her name is Ciri, and she's technically not a witcher.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 16 avril 2011 - 07:39 .

[Monica83]

Moondoggie wrote...

fchopin wrote...

I will be over the moon if TW2 is as good as TW1.

So covering the crappy combat system and cliche storyline with porn then? I'm sure there will be more erotic photos of you to collect by bedding women don't worry.

Oh ok... now are in the "SCANDAL!" mode.... Evry morning i take a bath and i see my naked body on the mirror... Should i censore the mirror? We are in 2011 please.. The witcher 2 its improved also in this way.. Romances are much better now... And have a story to follow and........

You are pissed of by this when in DA2 you have a woman that fight in a corset with huge breasts and a perizoma? oh pleease XD

[The Angry One]

Fandango9641 wrote...

Meaning what exactly? Bioware have a right to show less corporate responsibility by virtue of their being a larger development house than CDRP? That, my rage filled friend, is apologist rhetoric and there’s just no way of talking around it I’m afraid.

It is not rhetoric. It is a fact. What I am saying is that were their positions swapped, BioWare would be releasing "enhanced" editions of DA2, and CD Projekt would be sitting in their ivory tower feigning indignation.
This is not "CDP suks BioWare rulz", this is a fact of how the corporate world works.

Monica83 wrote...

Oh ok... now are in the "SCANDAL!"
mode.... Evry morning i take a bath and i see my naked body on the
mirror... Should i censore the mirror? We are in 2011 please.. The
witcher 2 its improved also in this way.. Romances are much better
now... And have a story to follow and........

You are pissed of by this when in DA2 you have a woman that fight in a corset with huge breasts and a perizoma? oh pleease XD

--------------------------------------------------> The point.
You.

In The Witcher the vast majority of women exist solely for Geralt to get his rocks off, and as a reward the player gets pornography cards to further objectify.
If you don't see what's wrong with that, then congratulations, you're part of their target audience.

Modifié par The Angry One, 16 avril 2011 - 07:41 .

[fchopin]

Moondoggie wrote...

fchopin wrote...

I will be over the moon if TW2 is as good as TW1.

So covering the crappy combat system and cliche storyline with porn then? I'm sure there will be more erotic photos of you to collect by bedding women don't worry.

At least there will be someone to bed, i found no such interesting companion in DA2.
 
If you find adult games offensive then maybe you should stay away from the games.

[slimgrin]

Vaern Sul wrote...

The Angry One wrote...


I for one will not play the Witcher 2, I will not play a game that promotes misogyny as titilation.

Regardless of how I am feeling about The Wticher 2 (that is, thrilled), could you please be more specific about this misogynistic attitude of CDProjektRed ? 

Oh and by the way, one really has to hand to you that you live up to your name.

*For clarification, I was not being sarcastic*

CD red has a cavalier attitude toward sex and nudity. Maybe Poles do in general. Maybe there is a larger cultural gap here than people realize. 

[The Angry One]

Fandango9641 wrote...

Well arent you the good little mass market consumer? In any case, thanks for the business breif (you'll forgive me if I ignore every word).

x

You've been doing that all along, because if you didn't you wouldn't have an argument and you'd no longer continue to exist in your fanboy world where CD Projekt can do no wrong.

slimgrin wrote...

Vaern Sul wrote...

The Angry One wrote...


I for one will not play the Witcher 2, I will not play a game that promotes misogyny as titilation.

Regardless of how I am feeling about The Wticher 2 (that is, thrilled), could you please be more specific about this misogynistic attitude of CDProjektRed ? 

Oh and by the way, one really has to hand to you that you live up to your name.

*For clarification, I was not being sarcastic*

CD red has a cavalier attitude toward sex and nudity. Maybe Poles do in general. Maybe there is a larger cultural gap here than people realize. 

Which wouldn't bother me if it was an equal attitude.
It is not. Geralt keeps his pants firmly on at all times.

Modifié par The Angry One, 16 avril 2011 - 07:45 .

[Moondoggie]

Jim_uk wrote...

Did Bioware let them use that engine for free? if not then CD Projekt owe them nothing. On the subject of engines, look what CD Projekt managed to do with that old engine and then look at DA2.

Did CD Projeckt need to use that engine? They could have used many others but chose that one specifically. I wonder why? Perhaps to use Bioware's name to get some support for the game from their fans. "Oh hey they used the same engine that was used for Dragon Age Origins i should check that out" And the like. I think they owe Bioware a lot. But if they want to take cheap pops at Bioware now they have one mildly successfull game out they can go ahead.


Are you really saying The Witcher looks better than Dragon Age 2? I know it's cool lately to nitpick about Dragon Age 2 but come on lol. You're comparing games years apart in graphical advancements. But if you want to wear the rose coloured specs that's fine with me.

[Monica83]

The Angry One wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

Well arent you the good little mass
market consumer? In any case, thanks for the business breif (you'll
forgive me if I ignore every word).

x

You've been
doing that all along, because if you didn't you wouldn't have an
argument and you'd continue to exist in your fanboy world where CD Projekt can do no wrong.

slimgrin wrote...

Vaern Sul wrote...

The Angry One wrote...


I for one will not play the Witcher 2, I will not play a game that promotes misogyny as titilation.

Regardless of how I am feeling about The Wticher 2 (that is, thrilled), could you please be more specific about this misogynistic attitude of CDProjektRed ? 

Oh and by the way, one really has to hand to you that you live up to your name.

*For clarification, I was not being sarcastic*

CD red has a cavalier attitude toward sex and nudity. Maybe Poles do in general. Maybe there is a larger cultural gap here than people realize. 

Which wouldn't bother me if it was an equal attitude.
It is not. Geralt keeps his pants firmly on at all times.

Well exist mods for that!

[The Angry One]

Monica83 wrote...

Well exist mods for that!

Point, missing it.. 

[Moondoggie]

fchopin wrote...

At least there will be someone to bed, i found no such interesting companion in DA2.
 
If you find adult games offensive then maybe you should stay away from the games.

Perhaps i would if they advertised it as porn but they promised me an RPG not a porn game

[slimgrin]

The Angry One wrote...

It is not. Geralt keeps his pants firmly on at all times.

*****Spoiler *****






no he doesn't.

Modifié par slimgrin, 16 avril 2011 - 07:48 .

[The Angry One]

slimgrin wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

It is not. Geralt keeps his pants firmly on at all times.

*****Spoiler *****






no he doesn't.

Prove it.

[fchopin]

Moondoggie wrote...

Perhaps i would if they advertised it as porn but they promised me an RPG not a porn game

Then maybe you should learn the definition of porn as the game will be uncensored for all countries including America.

[Monica83]

Moondoggie wrote...

Jim_uk wrote...

Did Bioware let them use that engine for free? if not then CD Projekt owe them nothing. On the subject of engines, look what CD Projekt managed to do with that old engine and then look at DA2.

Did CD Projeckt need to use that engine? They could have used many others but chose that one specifically. I wonder why? Perhaps to use Bioware's name to get some support for the game from their fans. "Oh hey they used the same engine that was used for Dragon Age Origins i should check that out" And the like. I think they owe Bioware a lot. But if they want to take cheap pops at Bioware now they have one mildly successfull game out they can go ahead.


Are you really saying The Witcher looks better than Dragon Age 2? I know it's cool lately to nitpick about Dragon Age 2 but come on lol. You're comparing games years apart in graphical advancements. But if you want to wear the rose coloured specs that's fine with me.

Yes looks better for many reason:

No ennemy from the sky
No static npc
Live ambient
Nice story
Great areas..
Should i continue?

[Dreadstruck]

You are pretty much missing the whole point of Geralt as a character.
It's easy to dismiss him as a "horny male stud who thinks with his penis", but then again, all that sex card stuff was OPTIONAL, meaning you DIDN'T had to screw half of Temeria and bring flowers to every peasantwoman to get into her pants.
Hell, even in the books Geralt seems kinda prude, unless that certain person literally throws herself at him.

And please, all these assumptions are getting kinda tiresome. Misogynist? And only in Eastern Europe?
Next time I am gonna hear that not including a female protagonist means that CD Projekt/Bioware is oppressing half of the human race via a bigoted and malicious policy.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 16 avril 2011 - 07:52 .

[Moondoggie]

fchopin wrote...

Then maybe you should learn the definition of porn as the game will be uncensored for all countries including America.

Oh they aren't censoring it in America this time? At least you won't need to protest to get the porn put back in again. Because the porn is such an important part of the game XD

[Monica83]

The witcher is not porn guys have a great storyline the game its not all related in take a girl and have fun...

But if you want see only that aspect well its a problem for you

CD-project have passion in what they do...

Look the life on this village its just wonderfull:

Modifié par Monica83, 16 avril 2011 - 07:54 .

[randName]

The Angry One wrote...
And maybe if that legendary Witcher appeared or was a playable character and got handed cards with naked men, I might authorise myself to give a damn.

I think people care too much about the cards - since they don't have animations for any of the sexual encounters, save rocking beds, or plaster falling from the ceiling, and I simply see the cards as trying to give it a bit more than just a black screen.

There is no need to collect any of these, like you don't have to unlock all the achievments in ME and DA for all romances done, and I've never felt compelled to do so, rather I roleplay Geralt as I feel like it, sometimes he will give in, sometimes not, depending on which way I cast him (he is a fairly limted character).

Geralt himself never says any detrimental things about women on automation, now you can make him, but any instance when I've seen that you can, and I've tried it the women lash back and tells him to go and **** himself.

So outside the visual character design I see no problem with sexism from either CPDR or that you yourself have to suffer as you play the main character (all sexual blackscreens with the following card are optional) and in general the women are as strong as the men in the game, just rarely warriors/fighters (save two I think).

The world in it self is filled with it on the other hand, and women will utter lines like "I can't talk to you because my husband forbids it" and in an other woman frankly tells you that her husand punched one her teeth out just yesterday (she says this everytime you ask), but these I see more as the world showing that there is a gender divide, and only those women that grab for power, either like Triss through magic, or Shani through knowlage, or the two fighters through skill - have made it out from the opression of their sex by the world they live in, and they are all selfmade, and all are strong characters on their own.

And I'd like to see a DLC, an expansion, or a spin-off featuring Triss.

[Jim_uk]

Moondoggie wrote...

Jim_uk wrote...

Did Bioware let them use that engine for free? if not then CD Projekt owe them nothing. On the subject of engines, look what CD Projekt managed to do with that old engine and then look at DA2.

Did CD Projeckt need to use that engine? They could have used many others but chose that one specifically. I wonder why? Perhaps to use Bioware's name to get some support for the game from their fans. "Oh hey they used the same engine that was used for Dragon Age Origins i should check that out" And the like. I think they owe Bioware a lot. But if they want to take cheap pops at Bioware now they have one mildly successfull game out they can go ahead.


Are you really saying The Witcher looks better than Dragon Age 2? I know it's cool lately to nitpick about Dragon Age 2 but come on lol. You're comparing games years apart in graphical advancements. But if you want to wear the rose coloured specs that's fine with me.

If they paid Bioware then they're a customer of Bioware and own them nothing, do you feel you owe Bioware because they let you buy their game? As for the Engine, DA2 is not on the same engine it is supposed to be a newer one, one not capable of a tactical camera if Bioware are to be beleived. As for graphics I'll just leave this here...

[The Angry One]

Avalla'ch wrote...

You are pretty much missing the whole point of Geralt as a character.
It's easy to dismiss him as a "horny male stud who thinks with his penis", but then again, all that sex card stuff was OPTIONAL, meaning you DIDN'T had to screw half of Temeria.
Hell, even in the books Geralt seems kinda prude, unless that certain person literally throws herself at him.

I'm talking about what occurs in the game, optional or not. Not Geralt as a character.

And please, all these assumptions are getting kinda tiresome. Misogynist? And only in Eastern Europe? Next time I am gonna hear that not including a female protagonist means that CD Projekt/Bioware is oppressing half of the human race via a bigoted and malicious policy.

And if they released a game with a female protagonist where most of the male population is not only treated like garbage for "gritty realism" but there for titilation and pornographic card collection, you would have a point.

Fandango9641 wrote...

Put the coffee down and have yourself a little kip.

Sometimes I regret giving myself this name. Other times like now I'm glad I did, as it's a constant source of amusement when people like you hide behind it.

Modifié par The Angry One, 16 avril 2011 - 07:55 .

[Moondoggie]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Boo hoo hoo.  They show nude women but not nude men in The Wicher II.  It's not fair.

*cries* Give me some tissue!

 

And here we have CD Projeckt's target audience. In real life he cannot get women so he cries into his pillow and then plays The Witcher where all manner of digital females give him photos of their breasts. Good ol target audience.

[fchopin]

Moondoggie wrote...

fchopin wrote...

Then maybe you should learn the definition of porn as the game will be uncensored for all countries including America.

Oh they aren't censoring it in America this time? At least you won't need to protest to get the porn put back in again. Because the porn is such an important part of the game XD

As you appear to be afraid of a nude body i would advice not to get the game.

[The Angry One]

Monica83 wrote...

The witcher is not porn guys have a great storyline the game its not all related in take a girl and have fun...

But if you want see only that aspect well its a problem for you

CD-project have passion in what they do...

Look the life on this village its just wonderfull:

Well, I have my principles that obviously you lack.
I only hope you don't carry this logic into the real world.