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[Dreadstruck]

Nashiktal wrote...

easygame88 wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

You know, I have not yet been able to finish a playthrough of the witcher. I always get near to the end of act two in the swamp... and I just peter out.

From the way people talk though I should probably try and push through to finish it.

god i hated the swamp....

I know right? Its long, mostly boring, enemies everywhere that might kill you at any time so you have to save often, and the choices seem abrubt and jilted.

I have fun with the witcher, but combat is a weak point for it. I want to play it, but I keep remembering that swamp and I start to dread it...

The swamp was dreadful, I agree. But then again, I thought about all that awesome loot in Vizima and actually pushed myself forward.
(and having a better sword always shows, stat-wise)

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 16 avril 2011 - 09:08 .

[The Angry One]

Romantiq wrote...

A lot of people don't know difference between PORN and EROTICA just as they don't see any difference between YOUR and YOU'RE.

And how is collecting cards in any way meant to be erotic?
It's pure gratuity.

[Seitur]

The Angry One wrote...

Do you expect me to care what you think? Who are you again?

No I do not expect you to care what I think. I am expressing my opinion publily about your opinions.
Who are you again?

Hardly any nudity? Yes, hardly enough that most were censored outside it's Polish release.

It was actually publisher(s) in each regions/countries decision to censor or not to get or not get certain age approval for game. Especially that there is strict law in many countries for limitging access in stores/advertaising  games tagged with 18 years old only+ or/and nudity included.
You havent replied thou to where is porn in Witcher 1 though.

Kudos to you for missing all my points, and again accusing me of political correctness which just proves you haven't read a thing I've said, or are just another dishonest debater I do not care to speak to again.

It is of course your choice to "speak" to me or not again as well as to judge me for beign dishonest or not. Do as you please.

Modifié par Seitur, 16 avril 2011 - 09:12 .

[CroGamer002]

DarthCaine wrote...

This thread is beyond idiotic...

+1

[Monica83]

The Angry One wrote...

Romantiq wrote...

A lot of people don't know difference between PORN and EROTICA just as they don't see any difference between YOUR and YOU'RE.

And how is collecting cards in any way meant to be erotic?
It's pure gratuity.

Collect the card isn't necessary but i suggest you to look at them in some site... Noone of them are voulgar and are great example of sensual fine art

[xkg]

censored outside it's Polish release? It was only US version that was censored.

Besides i find it funny how peeps dont mind killing hundreds of human lifes in a game but when they see ****** in the same game they are going completly mad. oh wow ...

[The Angry One]

Seitur wrote...

No I do not expect you to care what I think. I am expressing my opinion publily about your opinions.
Who are you again?

People call me angry, yet people like you are the ones hurling around insults. Quite interesting really.
And yes. Who are you? What have you contributed in this thread before trying to lecture me about how I debate?

It was actually publisher(s) in each regions/countries decision to censor or not to get or not get certain age approval for game. Especially that there is strict law in many countries for limitging access in stores/advertaising  games tagged with 18 years old only+ or/and nudity included.
You havent replied thou to where is porn in Witcher 1 though.

It is porn by nature of it's gratuity.

Modifié par The Angry One, 16 avril 2011 - 09:17 .

[KJandrew]

Can't i enjoy both games?

[Monica83]

The Angry One wrote...

Romantiq wrote...

A lot of people don't know difference between PORN and EROTICA just as they don't see any difference between YOUR and YOU'RE.

And how is collecting cards in any way meant to be erotic?
It's pure gratuity.

Ok now i understeand you find silly the thing of collect card.. Well its not necessary after all and i don't find this choice very unhappy in fact even in dragon age origins when you have romance with a companion you unlock the medal with writed have a romance with Morrigan for example this is not so terrible.. But maybe in dragon age you accept this because you can do it with a male and a female character.. Again the witcher is based on geralt of rivia.. The card per see are very cute... i like them a lot-- The fact is gratuity things don't means that its a porn...

Modifié par Monica83, 16 avril 2011 - 09:20 .

[slimgrin]

KJandrew wrote...

Can't i enjoy both games?

NOOOOOO!!!!!

well...okay. :happy:

[Marek-B]

Note to myself:

Playing a game which depicts most (in-game) women as sexual objects is a bad thing.

Playing games which encourage you to kill people (in-game) is okay.

But I guess I'm missing the point.

Modifié par Marek-B, 16 avril 2011 - 09:22 .

[Monica83]

KJandrew wrote...

Can't i enjoy both games?

You can ofcourse... I still think DA2 will be better if bioware presented it like a spin off and not as a sequel... In fact dragon age 2 its a total different game and don't have the content to be a sequel... Its a bit rushed.. But its possibile to find it enjoyable not for me of course...

In a very objective way if i must compare DA2 with TW2 the second one have a lot more content..

[Damariel]

slimgrin wrote...

KJandrew wrote...

Can't i enjoy both games?

NOOOOOO!!!!!

well...okay. :happy:

KJandrew ... you're strange man (easy just kidding)

I like Witcher, and I like DA ... Origins

[xSTONEYx187x]

LOL, when I said BioWare has some of the most vile, disgusting and downright horrid "fans" I knew I was correct.

All you have to do is look at the first page.

[aries1001]

On topic a bit: The link to the game 'saviour of queens' are actually, I think a reference to their own game: Witcher 2: Assasins of Kings. They're showing that they're not taking themselves too seriusly... And what is it with developers taking stab, jabs and mocking each other these days?

As for sex, romance, intimate relationship in games, I like it. And might I add that the first two BG games did have -ahem- ladies of the night making passing at you when -cough- passing by in the night. And in BG1 and possibly also in BG2, there were brothels. The first Witcher game did have those sex cards in it; however getting every card (or just some of them) was and is completely optional. And it is actually portraying the woman as the initiator of the romance (or sex) scenes. Nothing pornographic is shown at these moments, just rocking beds, fire flaming up, etc. etc. Afterwards you get a card, memorizing the event. And it is not so that Geralt can count how sex partners he had had, I think. It was done because back in the medieval times, this is how people could remember other people, by having or carrying a portrait of them. Example of how women are the initiator of intimate relationsships in Witcher 1 are a)
Th princess at the Inn and dandelion's affair with a nobleman's daughter...

Small spoiler (plese avoid if you haven't played the witcher and intent to do).
I remember being given a quest to find out why someone's wife, I think, disappeared. (or was it fiancé) Anyway, this women went to a brothel ( i think) because her husband beat her. You have the option to attack the women in the brothel, to return the woman to her husband, or to just let her stay in the brothel.
How is this degrading and objectifying women...

And how is showing strong women that initiate and encourages intimate relationship doing the same?

[fchopin]

KJandrew wrote...

Can't i enjoy both games?

According to some people the answer is NO unless it's a Bioware game.

Modifié par fchopin, 16 avril 2011 - 09:24 .

[The Angry One]

You know, I don't get mad if people disagree with me. Disagree with me all you like. If you like the Witcher, good for you. I hope you enjoy TW2.
When I *do* get mad is when people hurl insults and misrepresent what I say:

For the last time: I am not a prude. I have no problem with nudity or sex. What I do have a problem with is one-sided exploitation.

Modifié par The Angry One, 16 avril 2011 - 09:28 .

[slimgrin]

The Angry One wrote...

 What I do have a problem with is one-sided exploitation.

Welcome to reality.

[Jim_uk]

DKJaigen wrote...

Jim_uk wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

arcsquad12 wrote...

I don't see many people objecting to how Qunari women are subjected in Dragon Age. For the most part, the players just accept that that is the way the Qun works out. Why is it okay for the Qunari to have a rigid caste structure that impunes on individual choice, but the Witcher does not?

First, the Qunari do not treat women as objects to be used.
Secondly, at no point does DA invite you to participate in how the Qunari operate.

The Qunari force women into stereotypical roles which is no better, their attitude towards women mirrors that of the late 19th/early 20th century here in the west.

And yet qunari women are the only ones that can become tamsarans (a priestess) which is highest social rank.

And throughout history nations have had Queens but that doesn't mean women were not oppressed.

[Monica83]

The Angry One wrote...

You know, I don't get mad if people disagree with me. Disagree with me all you like. If you like the Witcher, good for you. I hope you enjoy TW2.
When I *do* get mad is when people hurl insults and misrepresent what I say:

For the last time: I am not a prude. I have no problem with nudity or sex. What I do have a problem with is one-sided exploitation.

I understeand hon but you can't attack a game that is designed around a male character.. If the witcher had a female character will be the same romances and erotic card... But the game is designed around a male character this is only the difference.. This don't means CD_ project guys likes to see woman ad a object nothing of that.. They have only a game with a male protagonist only that...

I laughted on the time Eidos released tomb rider 2 you remember the old lara croft? HUGE breasts.. HUGE butt in short and in a very aderent shirt... But i never taked that too seriously... Most time the right solution is made a cute laught..

Modifié par Monica83, 16 avril 2011 - 09:37 .

[Rovay]

fchopin wrote...

KJandrew wrote...

Can't i enjoy both games?

According to some people the answer is NO unless it's a Bioware game.

And even then you probably risk your life and health.

[Khayness]

So, this thread got bumped again to continue the bashing of a game for 0,1% of it's (optional) content?

Sounds fun!

Modifié par Khayness, 16 avril 2011 - 09:33 .

[Damariel]

Khayness wrote...

So, this thread got bumped again to continue the bashing of a game for 0,1% of it's (optional) content?

Sounds fun!

heh maybe in last 40 threads it was fun but now it's only sad but still ....

Let's play it again!!

Modifié par Damariel, 16 avril 2011 - 09:37 .

[The Angry One]

Fandango9641 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

You know, I don't get mad if people disagree with me. Disagree with me all you like. If you like the Witcher, good for you. I hope you enjoy TW2.

Your first post in this thread.

The Angry One wrote...

I'm going to laugh so damn hard if the Witcher 2 turns out to be as much of a hollow mess as the first one.

Yes, in my opinion it's a hollow mess. From what I've seen and the fact that I personally found it unplayable, on top of all the complaints I've heard that make DA2's opponents look like they positively like the game.

[Oloria]

I'd like to have enjoyed The Witcher. I heard so many good things about it that I ordered the enchanced edition on Steam. To me, its biggest failing point was no custom character creation (and yes, I get that it was a fixed protaganist based on the books).

I tried really hard, but I just cannot relate to playing a male character in cRPGs. I just can't care about them. I've rolled numerous male avatars in MMOs, even other Bioware games, but never manage more than a couple of hours of play. Maybe it's weird mental block specific to me...? I have no similar issues reading books or watching films following a male character. If I could have been a female witcher (as lore-breaking as that might have been) I think I would have liked the game. So long as I could collect male sex cards, of course.

Off topic now, but keeping my fingers crossed that Bioware at least continue to offer gender selection in their future games.