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[ISpeakTheTruth]

Now that we've had two games with Flemeth I now feel confident saying that Flemeth is to me the most over rated character I've every seen. She basically does nothing in both games except for the very begining, talks in riddles acts big and bad and then... that's about it. Honestly I look at both games and believe they would be better off if she was never involved in the story at all and what she's added to the story is nothing but moderate plot movement that could have easily been solved without her.

Example: DAO instead of Flemeth taking all the glory of saving you just have it be Morrigan- a character that actually matters in the grand scheme of things.

DA2 instead of her showing up to 'save you' just have Hawke and group escape from the Blight on their own.

Look at that two simple things changed and the story isn't altered at all and it doesn't feel weird because there a weird old lady in it that tries to be meaningful. I know people will say "Oh but she's going to be important latter on!!!11!" To which I'll ask then why not introduce her then instead of showing up for 1 1/2 minutes in both games? She was talked about by the Devs for how long when DA2 was being discussed and how the ritual was a HUGE PLOT TWIST... really? It was a plot twist for a lossly established character to show up for a minute and then fly away never to be seen or add anything to the story again?

I'd hate to be the only one that looks at that character and just feels sick at the idea that she's suppose to be important and all I see of her is a worthless add-on that you really don't need at all. Am I the only one that thinks she's over rated?

[Alex Kershaw]

Flemeth = awesome imo

[Kijin]

Flemeth has already influenced much of the plot in the Dragon Age universe.

Flemeth first appears in the Stolen Throne novel, which depicts the adventure of Cailan's father Maric and Loghain, as they struggle to regain Ferelden from the Orlesians. Flemeth tells Maric that Loghain will betray him three times. Throughout the course of the novel, Loghain only betrays Maric twice.

The third betrayal is at Ostagar, when Loghain abandoned Maric's son Cailan, leaving him to die at the hands of the Darkspawn. Flemeth knew that Loghain would abandon Cailan at Ostagar, long before Maric became king.

You might also want to think about the Witch Hunt DLC. In DAO, you can discover Flemeth's Grimoire in the Circle Tower. If you give it to Morrigan, she will tell you that she fears that Flemeth will try to steal her body.

The Witch Hunt DLC takes place after DAO - in it, Morrigan reveals that Flemeth has a far greater plan: " I thought I knew what Flemeth planned. I thought what she craved was immortality. And yet I was wrong. So very wrong. She is no blood mage, no abomination... She is not even truly human. The ritual was but a means to an end, a herald for what is to come."

Flemeth forced Morrigan to go with the Warden, because she knew their adventure would take them to the Circle Tower - and this meant that Morrigan would uncover her Grimoire.

Flemeth is my favourite character in Dragon Age - she is cunning and manipulative. Best of all - nobody knows what her plan is.

[Addai]

I think you mean Flemeth is the most awesomest character? She is moving things behind the scenes. Take her involvement with Maric and Loghain. Loghain couldn't believe that there was a Blight because if he accepted that fact, he had to accept he was a traitor to Maric. So he discounted the Blight's threat and thus we have Origins.

DAO: Flemeth is manipulating the Warden and Alistair similarly. She plants the idea of vengeance in Alistair's mind. She has the treaties and manipulates the Warden into using them and into taking Morrigan, which sets up the DR. She has a similar "unmoved mover" quality in DA2. And yet the writers are restrained in using her as deus ex machina, unless you count saving the Warden and Alistair off of the Tower, in which case she's very much a DEM.

If you go back into Fereldan history, again, she is moving things. In all this, she's a very believable and even tragic figure herself. She's not villain or hero but a mixture of both.

I think she's brilliant. And then there is her VA. 'Nuff said.

[RyuStrife]

Everyone has stated the obvious. We can truly say, Flemeth is THE mastermind of the RPG century. People can only grasp straws at what her character is. The riddles are to elude you and to make you over think your knowledge.

In fact, Flemeth has been pushing everything so far. She is known she has always been the puppeteer in the histories.

[Halo Quea]

Flemeth is most likely to be revealed as an Old God-Arch Demon or Andraste herself.

[Chuvvy]

People forget about the army of Morrigans in the destiny trailer. Flemeth was meant to have a larger roll but got cut either because of time or because they want to sell it as DLC. Maybe both.

[Kelwing]

Can't get enough of Flemeth. She is always around to push/guide/influence key figures to her end goals it seems. Which in the end makes me want to know more about her.

[Porenferser]

I liked her in Dragon Age 1.
A seemingly harmless old hag, with great power behind the fassade.

In Dragon Age 2 she is pretty much exaggerated.
That look of hers.....Jesus.
Like a MILF from a Japano-Show xD

[RyuStrife]

Halo Quea wrote...

Flemeth is most likely to be revealed as an Old God-Arch Demon or Andraste herself.

I stated that she was an Old-God myself. It explains much more of her abilities and how powerful she is.

[Torax]

If you want really overrated by your standards? Captain Anderson. Flemeth does more than he did.

Modifié par Torax, 01 avril 2011 - 09:24 .

[Chuvvy]

Halo Quea wrote...

Flemeth is most likely to be revealed as an Old God-Arch Demon or Andraste herself.

Flemeth is Sandal, Dumat, OGB, Morrigan, The Maker, Andraste and the red haired kid from lothering.

[Purple People Eater]

Flemeth is a fantastic character. I really liked her in DA2, more so than I did in Origins. Im looking forward to whatever the future holds for her character in the grand scheme of things.

[Slackr730]

If at the end of the Witch Hunt DLC you make your Warden go with Morrigan into the eluvian, then I'm sure he will find out what Flemeth truly wants. There is no reason to jump to conclusions with Flemeth; she is simply too mysterious at this point to figure out, not unlike Kreia with KOTOR 2.

[supakillaii]

Porenferser wrote...

I liked her in Dragon Age 1.
A seemingly harmless old hag, with great power behind the fassade.

In Dragon Age 2 she is pretty much exaggerated.
That look of hers.....Jesus.
Like a MILF from a Japano-Show xD

That's Varric for you <_<

[Porenferser]

supakillaii wrote...

Porenferser wrote...

I liked her in Dragon Age 1.
A seemingly harmless old hag, with great power behind the fassade.

In Dragon Age 2 she is pretty much exaggerated.
That look of hers.....Jesus.
Like a MILF from a Japano-Show xD

That's Varric for you <_<

Saying that every design-descision of the game was Varrics Fault.

What a perfect excuse.....not

Modifié par Porenferser, 01 avril 2011 - 09:34 .

[Darth Obvious]

Flemeth is such a cheap plot device in DA2 that it is almost funny.

[MICHELLE7]

I love Flemeth...wouldn't be surprised if she was secretly pulling the strings of the Warden and Hawke behind the scenes or sitting in a chair at Bioware pulling our strings.

[supakillaii]

Porenferser wrote...

supakillaii wrote...

Porenferser wrote...

I liked her in Dragon Age 1.
A seemingly harmless old hag, with great power behind the fassade.

In Dragon Age 2 she is pretty much exaggerated.
That look of hers.....Jesus.
Like a MILF from a Japano-Show xD

That's Varric for you <_<

Saying that every design-descision of the game was Varrics Fault.

What a perfect excuse.....not

(SINCE TEXT COLOURING DOESN'T WORK)
>BioWare can't have fun with design-decisions with the implementation of Varric

Modifié par supakillaii, 01 avril 2011 - 10:20 .

[WingsandRings]

I think Flemeth kicks ass.

[amat3rasu]

Badass to the extreme, she is! She kind of 'marked' the biggest two Heroes in the Dragon Age timeline. No coincidence.
And I think it feels like it's a good time to say that I hate you Bioware (probably equivalent to a grain of sand's weight) for making me hope Flemeth was gonna come swooping down from the skies dragon form and all: :/ meh...

[Foolsfolly]

She basically does nothing in both games except for the very begining, talks in riddles acts big and bad and then... that's about it.

I can do that too. The sun grows dark but lo here comes the dawn.

[Danjaru]

I liked Flemeth in Origins and the explanation of her in Witch Hunt was the only thing worthwhile in that awful DLC.

But she just seemed like an unnecessary Cameo in DA2 and the game didn't really need her riddles and another set of unanswered questions.

But that said, she's probably one of the coolest characters in Dragon Age lore nontheless..

[Oneiropolos]

I didn't really care about her in Dragon age Origins, but DAII, she drew me in. At first I was like "What the heck have they done with her design?" But especially when you have Fenris on Merrill's recruitment quest, the conversation between Flemeth and him really makes you wonder. I like that she's this mysterious character that we can't quite KNOW whether she's evil or good or just grey.

[Another_Golden_Dragon]

Flemeth is just one thing: A Plot Device.