The Angry One wrote...
KJandrew wrote...
The Aroshok wasn't given the postion of
Arishok as a child. He was asigned the position of a warrior when he was
a child and he rose in position inside that caste because he was the
most effiecient
That would mean he superceeded his role.
So apparently Sten and the Arishok are both liars.
Porenferser wrote...
Think what you want, but we are still talking about COMBAT-SKILLS here.
And the *slowmotion* argument doesn't count, this is just a stylistic/gameplay device.
sheppard7 wrote...
If Meredith was able to handle the Arishok so easily, then why didn't she already have the job done without Hawke?
Lithuasil wrote...
sheppard7 wrote...
If Meredith was able to handle the Arishok so easily, then why didn't she already have the job done without Hawke?
Because she, and less then a dozen templars, are busy handling *the entire rest of the qunari forces in kirkwall* and still manage to arrive mere seconds after the arishoks death?
sheppard7 wrote...
Lithuasil wrote...
sheppard7 wrote...
If Meredith was able to handle the Arishok so easily, then why didn't she already have the job done without Hawke?
Because she, and less then a dozen templars, are busy handling *the entire rest of the qunari forces in kirkwall* and still manage to arrive mere seconds after the arishoks death?
Um... she was there before the showdown with the Arishok. She was outside plotting with Hawke but Hawke went inside to battle him. If Meredith was so overpowered over the Arishok, she should have stepped up and went inside to own him while Hawke kept the Qunari at bay.
Lithuasil wrote...
sheppard7 wrote...
Lithuasil wrote...
sheppard7 wrote...
If Meredith was able to handle the Arishok so easily, then why didn't she already have the job done without Hawke?
Because she, and less then a dozen templars, are busy handling *the entire rest of the qunari forces in kirkwall* and still manage to arrive mere seconds after the arishoks death?
Um... she was there before the showdown with the Arishok. She was outside plotting with Hawke but Hawke went inside to battle him. If Meredith was so overpowered over the Arishok, she should have stepped up and went inside to own him while Hawke kept the Qunari at bay.
Or maybe the deemed "the rest of the qunari army, that just realized their defenses were breached" a bigger threat then one lout mouthed idiot and a dozen of his guards?
The Angry One wrote...
You mean the same group that Orsino takes out some of to distract them then runs the hell away? That group?
sheppard7 wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
You mean the same group that Orsino takes out some of to distract them then runs the hell away? That group?
He didn't run in mine. Did you get a mod to do that for you?
sheppard7 wrote...
Funny how you guys say the henchmen are suddenly a big threat but then you turn around to say they are not then they are again. Now, are they weak or not? Let's get that straight then we can move on. Either way once you stop the flip flopping then it will support the Shok being awesome or Meredith being overrated. Pick one.
KJandrew wrote...
There's about four Qunari chasing him. So Meridith needs 12 templars to take on 4 of them?
No but Meridith is just outside with her Templars do could she not just go in and kill the Arishok and then deal with the others?The Angry One wrote...
KJandrew wrote...
There's about four Qunari chasing him. So Meridith needs 12 templars to take on 4 of them?
Because those are the only Qunari left in all Kirkwall?
KJandrew wrote...
No but Meridith is just outside with her Templars do could she not just go in and kill the Arishok and then deal with the others?The Angry One wrote...
KJandrew wrote...
There's about four Qunari chasing him. So Meridith needs 12 templars to take on 4 of them?
Because those are the only Qunari left in all Kirkwall?
i don't want to be the hero i want to rest on my laurelsThe Angry One wrote...
KJandrew wrote...
No but Meridith is just outside with her Templars do could she not just go in and kill the Arishok and then deal with the others?The Angry One wrote...
KJandrew wrote...
There's about four Qunari chasing him. So Meridith needs 12 templars to take on 4 of them?
Because those are the only Qunari left in all Kirkwall?
No, that's up to you because you're the hero. That's how these things work.
KJandrew wrote...
There's about four Qunari chasing him. So Meridith needs 12 templars to take on 4 of them?
The Angry One wrote...
KJandrew wrote...
No but Meridith is just outside with her Templars do could she not just go in and kill the Arishok and then deal with the others?The Angry One wrote...
KJandrew wrote...
There's about four Qunari chasing him. So Meridith needs 12 templars to take on 4 of them?
Because those are the only Qunari left in all Kirkwall?
No, that's up to you because you're the hero. That's how these things work.
sheppard7 wrote...
Game mechanics as you like to say. Another contradiction by Angry.
She didn't want to go inside and face the 'Shok. Because if she was soooooo much greater, she could have went inside, finished him, then came back out before Hawke had time to make a sandwich. She's overrated. And a disappointment as the final boss fight.
The Angry One wrote...
sheppard7 wrote...
Game mechanics as you like to say. Another contradiction by Angry.
You need to learn the difference between game mechanics and acts of plot. It works the same way in a book or movie.She didn't want to go inside and face the 'Shok. Because if she was soooooo much greater, she could have went inside, finished him, then came back out before Hawke had time to make a sandwich. She's overrated. And a disappointment as the final boss fight.
Who said so much greater? Again, most claims that she could easily dispatch the Arishok are for crazy sword Meredith. The crazy sword she doesn't have yet.
For normal Meredith, given both their strengths and weaknesses it would be an even match, one which in my opinion Meredith would emerge the winner.
Modifié par sheppard7, 03 avril 2011 - 10:37 .
sheppard7 wrote...
And my opinion is the 'Shok would win. People have said the strength vs speed thing and how speed would win. Not always. Think boxing. If that's true, Mike Tyson would never have won the title. I know you can turn around and said if strength always won then Ali wouldn't have either. There's other skills than just that simple involved as to who can fight "their fight". If you say Meredith could survive melee range in the fight, then I know you are just trying to troll. Only thing I can't say Meredith would have the range advantage because does she have real range (outside of sword range) in Act 2? And that crazy vertical leaping I don't see her doing that without her version of the light sabre. So her leaping was just her using the Force I guess. Meredith was a sith lord I guess.
The Angry One wrote...
Heavy weight boxing is about one man trying to out-heavy the other. Of course the strongest will win, because both are fighting the same way.
Meredith would not be fighting the same way as the Arishok and neither does Hawke for that matter, gameplay or otherwise.
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