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[Lilyfrin]

AreleX wrote...

Good lord no! The classes and builds I use are the strongest possible in the realm that I play the game (no pausing, console, limited ability binds, etc), and Mages are the total antithesis of that; a lot of spells force you to pause to direct them, not to mention that with only 6 maps available, I'd frequently have to go into the power wheel to cast spells. Not to mention that doing all this is a very time-consuming endeavor, and I've already stretched myself pretty thin/

There are already quite a few (3? 4?) mage guides, and I don't feel like I'd have anything new or different or not already organized to add for them, as I did with two-hander and dual-wield

Not to mention that near-fisticuffs happen very regularly in Mage threads, something I want no part of. However, you can always let me know if you need help with any of the things I DO know a little bit about.

Thanks for the reply -- I see what you mean about having to frequently pause.  With the mage, I wanted to gouge my eyeballs out dueling the Arishok and that was only on normal mode.  I played a rogue my first time through, but that was a quick, 'get a feel for the game' playthrough.

Can't wait to give your warrior and rogue builds a shot

[i DejavuHD]

i have a question, what stats do you give your companions according to this guide?

[Cstriker01]

I go:

Aveline Str 2 Con 1 for a bit then Str 1 Con 2 for a level or two, then back to 2:1...Occasionally I put some in will. Aveline is the rock of my party taking a pounding from more then just Donnic...

Merrill- Magic 2 Con 1 no will as she goes blood mage with blood of the first

Anders- Magic 2 Emo 1...I mean Will 1...either way he's still a little b**ch.

[Darqion]

I've been wondering about aveline myself... I build her more around Con because i found her squishy and i have almost all her skills into defensive skills and she has defensive rings etc. Yet she still seems to die way faster then some of these videos i've been watching

And in those videos they say aveline has ballanced con/str or even more str and has atleast 50% of the build focused on offensive ability's. So can anyone explain to me why my Aveline seems to die so fast :/

[Cstriker01]

I still utilize several abilities on my Aveline. Turn the Blade, Maxed battle synergy, and stonewall...love stonewall. On top of this, have Anders tossing out Barrier to aveline when she gets to around Health<50% and her survivability goes up.

She usually does pretty well for me. I like to take those passives in her tree and defense too that up the defense base.

So, having said that my Aveline has a lot of stamina tied up at the moment. She uses at the most Shield defense, Turn the blade, and Battle Synergy...all this means is more survivability. This is why I put in a few extra points into willpower to give her the chance to set up staggers still and use stonewall to protect her.

Modifié par Cstriker01, 07 avril 2011 - 02:52 .

[Prismo]

AreleX wrote...
There are already quite a few (3? 4?) mage guides, and I don't feel like I'd have anything new or different or not already organized to add for them, as I did with two-hander and dual-wield

Not to mention that near-fisticuffs happen very regularly in Mage threads, something I want no part of. However, you can always let me know if you need help with any of the things I DO know a little bit about.

I resent the implication that participants in Mage threads are uncouth brigands with violent tendencies. I demand we settle this dispute via fisticuffs post-haste.

[Liliandra Nadiar]

I'm trying something new with Aveline in my current game. 1 Str, 1 Con and alternating the last point between Cun and Will. Going to give her a decent stamina pool before going Cun totally to try and get Turn the Blade to be of use. It's no good against abilities, but if she's surrounded by auto-attacking trash mobs... *shrug* So far at level 13, Act 2 and she hasn't dropped since Blackpowder Conspiracy. Came close on the deep roads dragon, but a health pot fixed that before I poked Anders' tactics to try and find why he wasn't healing.

[AreleX]

i DejavuHD wrote...

i have a question, what stats do you give your companions according to this guide?

Merrill - MAG/CON, alternating 2:1, then straight MAG when she has 30 CON.

Anders - MAG/CON/WIL, boosting his MAG and CON early, when he won't have as many spells to cast/sustains to hold, then go 2:1 MAG/WIL when he has 200 HP.

Aveline - CON/STR/WIL, keeping her STR high enough to equip the best gear available for your level, her WIL high enough to hold sustains and comfortably use Cleave/Taunt, and the rest into CON to aid her tanking high-damage output enemies/being surrounded, and to give her a large enough health pool to comfortably work with Bodyguard/Hero's Synergy for you. Prioritization should be CON > STR > WIL.

Darqion wrote...

I've been wondering about aveline myself... I build her more around Con because i found her squishy and i have almost all her skills into defensive skills and she has defensive rings etc. Yet she still seems to die way faster then some of these videos i've been watching

And in those videos they say aveline has ballanced con/str or even more str and has atleast 50% of the build focused on offensive ability's. So can anyone explain to me why my Aveline seems to die so fast :/

The Defender tree is worthless, my Aveline has no points invested in it, and I can count on one hand, maybe two, the amount of times she has died in my entire PLAYTHROUGH. If she does end up dying, nine times out of then, it was because I wasn't paying attention to her plight, and helping her when she needed it. A few points in her personal tree and SnS tree are all you need for defense abilities.

The best defense is a good offense completely rings true for her, and when you invest in the Vanguard tree, it becomes less about 'how many hits can she take', and more about 'how many enemies can she kill/set up to be killed'. The best way to keep yourself, or ANY ally alive, is to kill what's hurting them, period.

Chazzwazza wrote...

I resent the implication that participants in Mage threads are uncouth brigands with violent tendencies. I demand we settle this dispute via fisticuffs post-haste.

The mage would defend the brute-like nature of his people? There's only one solution...

RIGHTEOUS!

DESTROY THEM!

Modifié par AreleX, 07 avril 2011 - 08:32 .

[dhurstell]

Great guide!

I couldn't beat ARW on Hard with my previous rogue and killed him quite easily on NM this time.

That is to say, once the tactics and AI worked out.

Not as much success with the Varterral, Aveline keeps standing in the poison spittle.

I really see your point about how Aveline really makes this type of build work.

That being said... there is no Aveline on the Arishok fight... and I'm getting tired of reloading and going through the entire conversation over and over....

Looking forward to the equipment posts.

Modifié par dhurstell, 08 avril 2011 - 04:20 .

[Cstriker01]

Okay, so...my builds are more or less what you have guided us with. However, I just tried the deep roads dragon...and I got my ass stompered.

Questions being, should I have socketed +fire resist runes on my gear for hte fight? That being said, I should in that case have socketed +lightning resist for the ARW as well. I'm noticing that after the profanes before the ARW just kicked the **** out of me. Wow, nightmare is fun...but when it wants to it slaps you down hard.

[Darqion]

I beat the deeproads dragon with relative ease.. not paying attention made evaline die the last 2 seconds of the fight I did micro her out of harms way once or twice, but overall he died pretty fast

I did not have magic resist runes.. i did have 2 items with fire resist that happened to be in my possesion. Still, killing all the adds asap, and just dropping the pain was all i needed. Not sure why you would get slapped around so much

Modifié par Darqion, 08 avril 2011 - 06:25 .

[Ace Attorney]

I am currently running a DW Rogue. I am thinking if I should run with Fenris or Merrill as my 4th (playing on Hard, FF is a non-issue). Merrill can provide more Brittle, Fenris more Stagger. My other party members are Aveline and Anders.

Also, which is the better tree, ignoring FF issues, Primal or Elemental? Primal gives a CC/Brittle all one with a CC Stagger spell and has Rock Armor. Elemental is clearly the more damaging one and can Brittle more.

Modifié par T3hAnubis, 08 avril 2011 - 10:23 .

[Ace Attorney]

Double post.

Modifié par T3hAnubis, 08 avril 2011 - 08:04 .

[Abhorash]

is the companion lvl-up guidecoming soon?

[aethernox]

Actually, T3hAnubis, the difference in damage capability between Primal and Elemental is minor, due to the consistent nature of Chain Lightning CCCs. Primal is probably better, but the top half of Elemental is fairly good.

[Ace Attorney]

aethernox wrote...

Actually, T3hAnubis, the difference in damage capability between Primal and Elemental is minor, due to the consistent nature of Chain Lightning CCCs. Primal is probably better, but the top half of Elemental is fairly good.

Yes, but I as a Rogue will be eating up Staggers too, so it won't go off 100%.

[Northern Sun]

I recently Maker-sighed my rogue to your assassin/Duelist build and I found the DW rogue went from rather tedious to awesomely fun. Thank you.

[judas_kisser]

Respec-ed my build as well. Awesome guide. Great job, dude.

[Cstriker01]

Hey AreleX, another Aveline question.

I am totally getting my ass stomped by the ARW. Are you using Elemental Aegis with Aveline or just runes? Did you use runes for fire resist on the Deep Roads Dragon fight as well and just swapped new ones for the battle with ARW via Sandal in the second half?

Also, during the ARW, those adds are totally stun locking me. I can kill the first one crazy fast, but then before I know it BAM! Stun locked and dead. What is it you are doing different? Mmmmmm, it may be because I haven't given Anders haste yet...that would probably do it. Anyways, i'm watching your vid and I notice you are not getting stun locked...what gives?

[AreleX]

Cstriker01 wrote...

Hey AreleX, another Aveline question.

I am totally getting my ass stomped by the ARW. Are you using Elemental Aegis with Aveline or just runes? Did you use runes for fire resist on the Deep Roads Dragon fight as well and just swapped new ones for the battle with ARW via Sandal in the second half?

Also, during the ARW, those adds are totally stun locking me. I can kill the first one crazy fast, but then before I know it BAM! Stun locked and dead. What is it you are doing different? Mmmmmm, it may be because I haven't given Anders haste yet...that would probably do it. Anyways, i'm watching your vid and I notice you are not getting stun locked...what gives?

I had the Ancient Leather Cuirass on, and Aveline had Lady Rosamund's Bulwark with 2 fire runes and one lightning rune.

When the shockwave aoe ends, and the add spawn, I activate Pinpoint Strikes, and then just play Mario until they're dead. I also believe I had Anders with Elemental Weapons, too.

[Ace Attorney]

Hey AreleX, care to reply?

T3hAnubis wrote...

I am currently running a DW Rogue. I am thinking if I should run with Fenris or Merrill as my 4th (playing on Hard, FF is a non-issue). Merrill can provide more Brittle, Fenris more Stagger. My other party members are Aveline and Anders.

Also, which is the better tree, ignoring FF issues, Primal or Elemental? Primal gives a CC/Brittle all one with a CC Stagger spell and has Rock Armor. Elemental is clearly the more damaging one and can Brittle more.

[AreleX]

T3hAnubis wrote...

Hey AreleX, care to reply?

T3hAnubis wrote...

I am currently running a DW Rogue. I am thinking if I should run with Fenris or Merrill as my 4th (playing on Hard, FF is a non-issue). Merrill can provide more Brittle, Fenris more Stagger. My other party members are Aveline and Anders.

Also, which is the better tree, ignoring FF issues, Primal or Elemental? Primal gives a CC/Brittle all one with a CC Stagger spell and has Rock Armor. Elemental is clearly the more damaging one and can Brittle more.

Personal bias (I hate Fenris and love Merrill) aside, I would say Merrill. I had problems with Brittle being overwritten a few times with just Aveline, and I imagine it would be even worse with Fenris' giant sword and angst-powered glowing.

I also think adding in Fenris is a pretty classing case of 'too many cooks in the kitchen'. Fenris will be stealing kills from you himself, and passing even more along to Merrill with his staggers. Due to your low WIL, you'll NEED those kills so you don't run out of STA using your abilities.

As for the overall group tank, after having used both, I vastly prefer Aveline. I can kind of manage her stagger overwriting better, and Bodyguard/Hero's Synergy let me do all kinds of things I shouldn't; If you watch my videos, you'll see me tank Hyrbris (green s**t activated) for a solid 15-20 seconds, and tapdance in the Varterral's puddle almost infinitely. You NEED Bodyguard (and its upgrade) if you're going to survive mid-late game without taking a hit to your damage output, point blank.

[Att3r0]

How was Xebenkeck? did you do it w/o kiting ? just started doing it and i seem to get overspawned , doesnt think i can do it without some strong pot usage...

[AreleX]

Att3r0 wrote...

How was Xebenkeck? did you do it w/o kiting ? just started doing it and i seem to get overspawned , doesnt think i can do it without some strong pot usage...

I found out that if you one-shot her fast enough with Brittle/Mark of Death/Assassinate, the adds take much longer than normal to spawn, giving you time to clear the first wave of Rage Demons/Abominations worry-free.

[Att3r0]

AreleX wrote...

I found out that if you one-shot her fast enough with Brittle/Mark of Death/Assassinate, the adds take much longer than normal to spawn, giving you time to clear the first wave of Rage Demons/Abominations worry-free.

you must have runned into some bug or smth.
She is f$@# resiliant to brittle using 2x petrify and WG and chanes seem like 10%. But after x loads i got to land it and 1 shot her...about 5s later after i killed abos revenant and 2 mroe rages spawned. Gonna give it 1 more shot and try let abos live and kill rages after.

EDIT: ok did it without kiting yea! was clumsy as hell (died 2x) but as long anders is alive figth is not over ^^
But revenant spawns soon after yoou kill smth so just fast kill abos 1 shot xeben and try to fast kill another rage.

Modifié par Att3r0, 09 avril 2011 - 09:18 .