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DW Assassin - One-Shot Overkill (Nightmare Guide) Updated for 1.02/103, check bottom of OP (July 24th)


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Hey AreleX I had a question, would the build you describe work for an Archer Rogue? I mean obviously not getting the DW points and they'd go elsewhere (not in Archery since it sucks) but overall would this work with an Archer as well as a DW Rogue? Thanks :)

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I wouldn't, immediately see why not. Wouldn't be able to take advantage of Staggers as regularly without Explosive Strike. Could look toward Lance with two 'trash' points in Pinning/Bursting. Possibly use Fenris since Warrior would be the only one in melee range and let him run wild.

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im at the arishok and the guy keeps healing. I dont know how many potions he is supposed to have but he gulped 5 last time i tried. I got the best daggers i could find and assasinate doesnt do enough damage fast enough to bypass his potions healing :/ uff maybe i`ll have to do it in a teamfight.

edit: His attacks seem buggy aswell :/ im way out of range and he keeps hitting me. and if he ever gets me to the ground its over :P he always hits me after an attack because the animation takes so long he has the time to counter before i can even more :/

Modifié par Darqion, 11 avril 2011 - 08:02 .


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Sallul wrote...

Hey AreleX I had a question, would the build you describe work for an Archer Rogue? I mean obviously not getting the DW points and they'd go elsewhere (not in Archery since it sucks) but overall would this work with an Archer as well as a DW Rogue? Thanks :)


Yup, it still works quite beautifully since the Assassin/Duelist skills aren't directly tied to your weapon.  Obviously not the most optimal but with that sort of build and having buffs focused on speeding up your attacks, you'll do great as well.  Switching to a bow was useful for me while battling the High Dragon.

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reservedegotist wrote...

Sallul wrote...

Hey AreleX I had a question, would the build you describe work for an Archer Rogue? I mean obviously not getting the DW points and they'd go elsewhere (not in Archery since it sucks) but overall would this work with an Archer as well as a DW Rogue? Thanks :)


Yup, it still works quite beautifully since the Assassin/Duelist skills aren't directly tied to your weapon.  Obviously not the most optimal but with that sort of build and having buffs focused on speeding up your attacks, you'll do great as well.  Switching to a bow was useful for me while battling the High Dragon.


Archer is currently lvl 7 and already wracking up 400+ crits with the Black Emporium bow, following your guide and it's been a blast!  Thank you so much :)

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The most surprising thing about this guide is that Arelex was right... when you have a crit over 25k... the words "I MUST BREAK YOU" actually come out of your mouth

...amazing...

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dhurstell wrote...

The most surprising thing about this guide is that Arelex was right... when you have a crit over 25k... the words "I MUST BREAK YOU" actually come out of your mouth

...amazing...


What, you thought I was kidding? It gets worse, too.

I hit Danarius for 52k and just started screaming at my TV.

No words, just screaming.

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AreleX wrote...

dhurstell wrote...

The most surprising thing about this guide is that Arelex was right... when you have a crit over 25k... the words "I MUST BREAK YOU" actually come out of your mouth

...amazing...


What, you thought I was kidding? It gets worse, too.

I hit Danarius for 52k and just started screaming at my TV.

No words, just screaming.


low whistle...

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AreleX, once the patch hits, Amistice and Goad are viable for console gamers like you and me.
Would you use them?
When would you get them?

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T3hAnubis wrote...

AreleX, once the patch hits, Amistice and Goad are viable for console gamers like you and me.
Would you use them?
When would you get them?


I wouldn't use them myself, I feel that's a job better suited to setting up tactics for. Moreover, I didn't use either with my main Rogue party (Hawke, Aveline, Merrill, Anders), just Taunt and Battle Synergy, which, I think, will be even better once they fix threat/threat management to work properly all the time.

Modifié par AreleX, 13 avril 2011 - 10:30 .


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Oh well. It was just a thought, thinking for getting aggro off Mages, etc. Patch went live on 360 today, it fixes Rally, Armistice, Goad, and other stuff.

BTW, did you skip Scatter & Assault for Aveline, based on your Tactics? What did you get from the SnS tree?

Modifié par T3hAnubis, 14 avril 2011 - 09:06 .


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AreleX

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I get home and find out the patch has been released!

LET A WHOLE NEW WAVE OF DISAPPOINTMENT BEGIN!

EDIT:

When you're playing this build, you should be killing things fast enough that talents like that would just be a waste. The only time my mages died was to backstabs, and most Assassins were dead before they even got the chance.

Modifié par AreleX, 14 avril 2011 - 09:16 .


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Yep, as I said Rally should be working now, so you should the Might boost now. EDIT BTW, did you skip Scatter & Assault for Aveline, based on your Tactics? What did you get from the SnS tree?

Modifié par T3hAnubis, 14 avril 2011 - 09:27 .


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I think you should change your tactics for Merrill a bit. Use Blood only when he mana falls low, keeping it on at the start is a waste of free mana. Use this:

Self: Mana Level under 10% > Use current condition for next tactic
Self: Health above 50% > Activate Blood of the First
Self: Health under 50% > Deactivate Blood of the First

<rest of tactics>

Enemy: As long as one is alive > Skip Tactics
Self: Any > Deactivate Blood of the First

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AreleX wrote...

AreleX wrote...

Gloxgasm wrote...

What are you wearing in the 30 sec kill vid?


I should probably answer that now, to avoid a lot of confusion.

The actual armor I have EQUIPPED is the Guardian of Enasalin, meaning it has those stats, but the MODEL of the armor is the Knight-Templar Regalia; I modded my save and swapped the models.

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On xbox...How?

#266
AreleX

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Irish Porkchopp wrote...

AreleX wrote...

AreleX wrote...

Gloxgasm wrote...

What are you wearing in the 30 sec kill vid?


I should probably answer that now, to avoid a lot of confusion.

The actual armor I have EQUIPPED is the Guardian of Enasalin, meaning it has those stats, but the MODEL of the armor is the Knight-Templar Regalia; I modded my save and swapped the models.

../../../images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png


On xbox...How?


Check this thread. Remember to always back up your save prior to doing ANYTHING to it!

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Irish Porkchopp

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AreleX wrote...

Check this thread. Remember to always back up your save prior to doing ANYTHING to it!


Cool, Thanks.

Any new videos?  I need my fix. Image IPB

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Irish Porkchopp wrote...

AreleX wrote...

Check this thread. Remember to always back up your save prior to doing ANYTHING to it!


Cool, Thanks.

Any new videos?  I need my fix. Image IPB


Nothing new on the Rogue front yet, but I did post a video of quite possibly the most awesome Dissent clear ever in my mage thread.

I will be revisiting Rogue sometime soon, now that I have Sebastian and his Wounding Arrow, I just don't know when.

:wizard:

#269
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how is lacerate working now?

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I've tried out all your builds, and I must say...They actually make nightmare...manageable...XD Say, if I had to bring bethany with me into the deep roads, what would be a good CCC setup with her?

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Umm...does Bethany get the Primal tree? someone confirm?

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SuicidalBaby

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no, shes best with

Elemental - Full tree - brittle ccc
hex of torment
Heal
Elemental Weapons

Modifié par SuicidialBaby, 23 avril 2011 - 01:50 .


#273
AreleX

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I've updated the tactics and added level-up guides for each companion, check to make sure yours are up-to-date!

:wizard:

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Merrill's level up guide is empty.

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So would you like the Shadow/Maker's Kiss combo? What would your belts and amulets look like? Would you get the standard +3 Dex/Con or get something to boost shadow damage?