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[Volourn]

"I bet it won't break 2 million in it's first year. DA2 is bad."

Your opinion on the game's quality is irrlevant. Mine is too. Sorry.

1mil+ in less than 2 weeks. It needs to sell less than 1 mil in the next 46 weeks to break 2mil. L0L

[1000questions]

Volourn wrote...

"I bet it won't break 2 million in it's first year. DA2 is bad."

Your opinion on the game's quality is irrlevant. Mine is too. Sorry.

1mil+ in less than 2 weeks. It needs to sell less than 1 mil in the next 46 weeks to break 2mil. L0L

Considering the quality of game and the kind of anguish and disappointment it has generated .... the 2 Million sales mark doesnt seem to be funny especially to EA/Bioware guys..... isnt it <_<

And their latest strategic move of giving AAA title like ME2 which has also recieved a GOTY FREE with DA2 proves my theory.

Now you can go on loling ...

Modifié par 1000questions, 05 avril 2011 - 09:58 .

[silver-crescent]

Pedrak wrote...

So DA2 will probably end up selling at least 1,5 - 2 million copies. Not a smash it or the "10 million copies!!!" target, but certainly not the horrific bomb that would sink Bio as some thought. Especially considering how short the development was.

"10 million copies" was never the target. Do you really expect them to think DA2 would sell more than DA:O and ME2 combined? 

[Volourn]

Is that the ME2 that according to some has only sold 1.6mil... or the one thatbsoem claim has sold 6.6mil?

Sorry, the offer is a way to try to boost potential customers for upcoming ME3.. DA2 looks to surpass 1.6mil copies ME2 sold not far from now.

R00fles!

P.S. That '10mil' quotehas been taken out of context it's hialrious. No way no how did EA/BIO expect DA2 to sell 10mil+ copies. That's the equivelant of 3 of their games. L0LZ

Modifié par Volourn, 05 avril 2011 - 10:01 .

[Shirosaki17]

Volourn wrote...

"I bet it won't break 2 million in it's first year. DA2 is bad."

Your opinion on the game's quality is irrlevant. Mine is too. Sorry.

1mil+ in less than 2 weeks. It needs to sell less than 1 mil in the next 46 weeks to break 2mil. L0L

Still won't do 2 million in 46 weeks, princess.

[Shirosaki17]

Volourn wrote...

Is that the ME2 that according to some has only sold 1.6mil... or the one thatbsoem claim has sold 6.6mil?

Sorry, the offer is a way to try to boost potential customers for upcoming ME3.. DA2 looks to surpass 1.6mil copies ME2 sold not far from now.

R00fles!

P.S. That '10mil' quotehas been taken out of context it's hialrious. No way no how did EA/BIO expect DA2 to sell 10mil+ copies. That's the equivelant of 3 of their games. L0LZ

The 1.6 million number was from physical copies of the game, and only 4 months after release. It's probably sold at least 1 million more over the past year.

[Deadmac]

Marionetten wrote...

Brand recognition did its job initially. A lot of us bought this just because it had Dragon Age in the title. But after that... yeah, completely downhill. I'm not surprised.

"Star Wars" fans also do the same thing. As long as the box has a "Star Wars" logo, fans will blindly buy whatever is inside.

This is why I waited.

Modifié par Deadmac, 05 avril 2011 - 10:07 .

[1000questions]

Volourn wrote...

Is that the ME2 that according to some has only sold 1.6mil... or the one thatbsoem claim has sold 6.6mil?

Sorry, the offer is a way to try to boost potential customers for upcoming ME3.. DA2 looks to surpass 1.6mil copies ME2 sold not far from now.

R00fles!

 That is just one aspect of the manifold benefits of this strategic move. Nobody gives their one of the successfull game titles for FREE especially while you are still charging and releasing DLC's and other content for PRICE.

Dont forget that ME2 was released a year ago ie on 26th Jan 2010 I think... so it is not very old game or so outdated that its value is 0 in the market.

Anyways, you came down from your 2 Million mark within 30 mins

Modifié par 1000questions, 05 avril 2011 - 10:07 .

[Pedrak]

1000questions wrote...

Pedrak wrote...

So DA2, with a rather mediocre word of mouth on forums and relatively low metacritic score, will end up selling more or less like ME2, which was the critics' darling, loved by the majority of the players too and was much more heavily marketed?

Weird.

First, how did you come to conclusion, please share your GLASS BALL with us oh Wizard

Second, how is it weird if they are giving ME2 ABSOLUTELY FREE with DA2 ? Please explain the weirdness here ....

Cheap sarcasm aside:

1) You guys are saying ME2 sold around 2 million copies. DA2 sold over 1 million copies in 2 weeks. It's not a stretch of imagination to assume that it will end up selling, overall, something like 1,5-2 million copies in total.

2) is weird because it shows that, if this is the case, forums and critics matter very little. ME2 was one of Bio's highest rating game at metacritic, people on these forums mostly loved it, DA2 the lowest, lots of fans hated it, you'd expect a lot more difference between their sales.

Modifié par Pedrak, 05 avril 2011 - 10:12 .

[1000questions]

Deadmac wrote...

Marionetten wrote...

Brand recognition did its job initially. A lot of us bought this just because it had Dragon Age in the title. But after that... yeah, completely downhill. I'm not surprised.

"Star Wars" fans also do the same thing. As long as the box has a "Star Wars" logo, fans will blindly buy whatever is inside.

This is why I waited.

Smart move

[djackson75]

Shirosaki17 wrote...

Volourn wrote...

Is that the ME2 that according to some has only sold 1.6mil... or the one thatbsoem claim has sold 6.6mil?

Sorry, the offer is a way to try to boost potential customers for upcoming ME3.. DA2 looks to surpass 1.6mil copies ME2 sold not far from now.

R00fles!

P.S. That '10mil' quotehas been taken out of context it's hialrious. No way no how did EA/BIO expect DA2 to sell 10mil+ copies. That's the equivelant of 3 of their games. L0LZ

The 1.6 million number was from physical copies of the game, and only 4 months after release. It's probably sold at least 1 million more over the past year.

It's going to sell over 2 million. It will be discounted, and end up at probably $39.99 before the christmas shopping season.. If it's over 1 million after coming out during the deadest period for game sales.. It will be at 2 million by this time next year easily after a price drop or two.

[1000questions]

1000questions wrote...


Cheap sarcasm aside:

1) You guys are saying ME2 sold around 2 million copies. DA2 sold over 1 million copies in 2 weels. It's not a stretch og imagination to assume that it will end up selling, overall, something like 1,5-2 million total copies in total.

2) is weird because it shows that, if this is the case, forums and critics matter very little. ME2 was one of Bio's highest rating game at metacritic, DA2 the lowest, you'd expect a lot more difference between their sales.

Did you just forgot how DA2 was marketed, how they spin off the whole pre-ordering thing, in-game items, contests etc etc etc INSPITE of the huge success of DA:O .... isnt it very obvious/logical and true that the first week of sales and pre-orders has a lot to do with the success of DA:O ....

wonder why you only see sarcasm and not the logic,facts....

this time I am serious ... look at my face -->

[Shirosaki17]

djackson75 wrote...

Shirosaki17 wrote...

Volourn wrote...

Is that the ME2 that according to some has only sold 1.6mil... or the one thatbsoem claim has sold 6.6mil?

Sorry, the offer is a way to try to boost potential customers for upcoming ME3.. DA2 looks to surpass 1.6mil copies ME2 sold not far from now.

R00fles!

P.S. That '10mil' quotehas been taken out of context it's hialrious. No way no how did EA/BIO expect DA2 to sell 10mil+ copies. That's the equivelant of 3 of their games. L0LZ

The 1.6 million number was from physical copies of the game, and only 4 months after release. It's probably sold at least 1 million more over the past year.

It's going to sell over 2 million. It will be discounted, and end up at probably $39.99 before the christmas shopping season.. If it's over 1 million after coming out during the deadest period for game sales.. It will be at 2 million by this time next year easily after a price drop or two.

Maybe if Bioware offers ME3 with DA2 it will hit 2 million by next year, but DA2 is so bad that you're not being a good samaritan if you're not warning everyone you know not to buy it. Game may eventually hit 2 million in the next 5 years but I doubt it will hit 2 million in one.

@Pedrak DA:O did 3.5 million.

Modifié par Shirosaki17, 05 avril 2011 - 10:13 .

[Statulos]

Absolute sales number are kind of irrelevant by themselves. What is important is the amount expected and desired by Bioware and we have no idea what figure is that.

[1000questions]

djackson75 wrote...

It's going to sell over 2 million. It will be discounted, and end up at probably $39.99 before the christmas shopping season.. If it's over 1 million after coming out during the deadest period for game sales.. It will be at 2 million by this time next year easily after a price drop or two.

Sorry to burst your bubble of optimissim but the first few weeks of the sales after release of the game are the best for most of the title. You can see and research yourself. Sometimes the games are not even able to sell 25% of the total sales they have achieved after first 2 months.... this you can confirm from the distributors.

So unless it is word of mouth, game continuously getting recognition, dearth of better game releases in the forthcoming months and alot of x,y,z factors  ... it is unlikely that later sales actually beat the initial phase unless you are taking 4-8 years of life span into consideration

[Pedrak]

1000questions wrote...

1000questions wrote...


Cheap sarcasm aside:

1) You guys are saying ME2 sold around 2 million copies. DA2 sold over 1 million copies in 2 weels. It's not a stretch og imagination to assume that it will end up selling, overall, something like 1,5-2 million total copies in total.

2) is weird because it shows that, if this is the case, forums and critics matter very little. ME2 was one of Bio's highest rating game at metacritic, DA2 the lowest, you'd expect a lot more difference between their sales.

Did you just forgot how DA2 was marketed, how they spin off the whole pre-ordering thing, in-game items, contests etc etc etc INSPITE of the huge success of DA:O .... isnt it very obvious/logical and true that the first week of sales and pre-orders has a lot to do with the success of DA:O ....

wonder why you only see sarcasm and not the logic,facts....

this time I am serious ... look at my face -->

*shrugs*

Look, dude. I really don't care that much about DA2 sales - I think DAO was much better, frankly - I'm just noting how, for whatever reason, the gap in sales between one of Bio's critically and popularly best received game and its worst received game is going to be inferior to what I personally - and maybe other people on these forums too -  thought it would be.

If that makes you snarky, I really don't know what to say - nor I particularly care.

Take care.

P.S. BTW, I thought ME2 had a stronger marketing than DA2, but maybe it's just me.

Modifié par Pedrak, 05 avril 2011 - 10:26 .

[djackson75]

Shirosaki17 wrote...

djackson75 wrote...

Shirosaki17 wrote...

Volourn wrote...

Is that the ME2 that according to some has only sold 1.6mil... or the one thatbsoem claim has sold 6.6mil?

Sorry, the offer is a way to try to boost potential customers for upcoming ME3.. DA2 looks to surpass 1.6mil copies ME2 sold not far from now.

R00fles!

P.S. That '10mil' quotehas been taken out of context it's hialrious. No way no how did EA/BIO expect DA2 to sell 10mil+ copies. That's the equivelant of 3 of their games. L0LZ

The 1.6 million number was from physical copies of the game, and only 4 months after release. It's probably sold at least 1 million more over the past year.

It's going to sell over 2 million. It will be discounted, and end up at probably $39.99 before the christmas shopping season.. If it's over 1 million after coming out during the deadest period for game sales.. It will be at 2 million by this time next year easily after a price drop or two.

Maybe if Bioware offers ME3 with DA2 it will hit 2 million by next year, but DA2 is so bad that you're not being a good samaritan if you're not warning everyone you know not to buy it. Game may eventually hit 2 million in the next 5 years but I doubt it will hit 2 million in one.

@Pedrak DA:O did 3.5 million.

Okay.... you're not living in reality here, so go on thinking that. The game is easily going to top 2 million if it's already over 1 million long before a big price drop and long before the holiday season... But you keep on believing that it won't.

Just because the game isn't of the highest quality, doesn't mean it won't sell well.

[KalDurenik]

djackson75 wrote...

Shirosaki17 wrote...

djackson75 wrote...

Shirosaki17 wrote...

Volourn wrote...

Is that the ME2 that according to some has only sold 1.6mil... or the one thatbsoem claim has sold 6.6mil?

Sorry, the offer is a way to try to boost potential customers for upcoming ME3.. DA2 looks to surpass 1.6mil copies ME2 sold not far from now.

R00fles!

P.S. That '10mil' quotehas been taken out of context it's hialrious. No way no how did EA/BIO expect DA2 to sell 10mil+ copies. That's the equivelant of 3 of their games. L0LZ

The 1.6 million number was from physical copies of the game, and only 4 months after release. It's probably sold at least 1 million more over the past year.

It's going to sell over 2 million. It will be discounted, and end up at probably $39.99 before the christmas shopping season.. If it's over 1 million after coming out during the deadest period for game sales.. It will be at 2 million by this time next year easily after a price drop or two.

Maybe if Bioware offers ME3 with DA2 it will hit 2 million by next year, but DA2 is so bad that you're not being a good samaritan if you're not warning everyone you know not to buy it. Game may eventually hit 2 million in the next 5 years but I doubt it will hit 2 million in one.

@Pedrak DA:O did 3.5 million.

Okay.... you're not living in reality here, so go on thinking that. The game is easily going to top 2 million if it's already over 1 million long before a big price drop and long before the holiday season... But you keep on believing that it won't.

Just because the game isn't of the highest quality, doesn't mean it won't sell well.

The very fact that most websites have a huge price drop on DA2 and that Bioware/EA have to give away another game with this game to get it to sell show how badly its selling. Lets just hope that people dont buy DA2 and if they want ME2 they can just go and spend 5-10$ on it instead.

[1000questions]

Pedrak wrote...

*shrugs*

Look, dude. I really don't care that much about DA2 sales - I think DAO was much better, frankly - I'm just noting how, for whatever reason, the gap in sales between one of Bio's critically and popularly best received game and its worst received game is going to be inferior to what I personally - and maybe other people on these forums too -  thought it would be.

If that makes you snarky, I really don't know what to say - nor I particularly care.

Take care.

P.S. BTW, I thought ME2 had a stronger marketing than DA2, but maybe it's just me.

OK
bye bye

[Volourn]

"Anyways, you came down from your 2 Million mark within 30 mins "

Nah, I'm just mocking the silly 1.6mil quote for ME2 since anyone with any knowledge knows that ME2 sold wayyyyyyyyyy more than 1.6mil copies. It sold at least 3mil, and I have little doubt it actually sold over 4mil.

ME2 along with DA1 are BIo's most successful games sales wise, and they''re both past the 3mil point.

[djackson75]

KalDurenik wrote...

djackson75 wrote...

Shirosaki17 wrote...

djackson75 wrote...

Shirosaki17 wrote...

Volourn wrote...

Is that the ME2 that according to some has only sold 1.6mil... or the one thatbsoem claim has sold 6.6mil?

Sorry, the offer is a way to try to boost potential customers for upcoming ME3.. DA2 looks to surpass 1.6mil copies ME2 sold not far from now.

R00fles!

P.S. That '10mil' quotehas been taken out of context it's hialrious. No way no how did EA/BIO expect DA2 to sell 10mil+ copies. That's the equivelant of 3 of their games. L0LZ

The 1.6 million number was from physical copies of the game, and only 4 months after release. It's probably sold at least 1 million more over the past year.

It's going to sell over 2 million. It will be discounted, and end up at probably $39.99 before the christmas shopping season.. If it's over 1 million after coming out during the deadest period for game sales.. It will be at 2 million by this time next year easily after a price drop or two.

Maybe if Bioware offers ME3 with DA2 it will hit 2 million by next year, but DA2 is so bad that you're not being a good samaritan if you're not warning everyone you know not to buy it. Game may eventually hit 2 million in the next 5 years but I doubt it will hit 2 million in one.

@Pedrak DA:O did 3.5 million.

Could you please link me to the websites with "massive price drops" on DA2? I have gone to EB, Amazon, Walmart, Target, and Best Buy(USA), none of those have the game discounted massively at all. I'm curious which websites do.

Okay.... you're not living in reality here, so go on thinking that. The game is easily going to top 2 million if it's already over 1 million long before a big price drop and long before the holiday season... But you keep on believing that it won't.

Just because the game isn't of the highest quality, doesn't mean it won't sell well.

The very fact that most websites have a huge price drop on DA2 and that Bioware/EA have to give away another game with this game to get it to sell show how badly its selling. Lets just hope that people dont buy DA2 and if they want ME2 they can just go and spend 5-10$ on it instead.

Could you please link me to the websites with "massive price drops" on
DA2? I have gone to EB, Amazon, Walmart, Target, and Best Buy(USA), none
of those have the game discounted massively at all. I'm curious which
websites do.

Modifié par djackson75, 05 avril 2011 - 10:41 .

[Boiny Bunny]

^ That's correct. From what Bioware/EA have said in statements, Origins and ME2 are Bioware's most successful titles. One year after release, EA released a statement to the effect of saying that DA:O had sold 3.2 million copies - and that was 'across all platforms'. There has been quite a debate going on though as to whether this includes PC copies or not.

At any rate, soon we'll have week 4 sales and then we can start our predictions of the next 15 years of DA2 sales all over again!

[1000questions]

Volourn wrote...

"Anyways, you came down from your 2 Million mark within 30 mins "

Nah, I'm just mocking the silly 1.6mil quote for ME2 since anyone with any knowledge knows that ME2 sold wayyyyyyyyyy more than 1.6mil copies. It sold at least 3mil, and I have little doubt it actually sold over 4mil.

ME2 along with DA1 are BIo's most successful games sales wise, and they''re both past the 3mil point.

The 1.6 million number was from physical copies of the game, and only 4
months after release. It's probably sold at least 1 million more over
the past year.
Oh , you are still here I thought you were gone sounds like more fun

by the way is partially omitting things your nature or conviniently selective acknowledgement your nature ?... dont get me wrong ... just asking ...

because the quote was

" The 1.6 million number was from physical copies of the game, and only 4
months after release. It's probably sold at least 1 million more over
the past year. "

I hope I dont have to explain what I am refering too

[GrandHarrier]

Ringo12 wrote...

The only left really is for EA to BACK AWAY from Bioware on their next Dragon Age game. Let Bioware take all the time they need.
Now I know people are tired of hearing of Witcher 2, but I think it's brought up for a reason because that looks like what a sequel should be improvements with out removing what we loved. They got rid of the terrible combat system, too many loading (only 3 load screens in the full game i believe) kept the mature feel. In many ways Witcher 1 is way more mature and dark then origins ever was.

EA needs to give Bioware more then what was it 1 1/2 year developement time. Dragon Age just need more time in development.

How is Witcher 1 "mature"? You mean having sex with women for trading cards? Yeah, that's pretty mature.

[Otterwarden]

1000questions wrote...


 That is just one aspect of the manifold benefits of this strategic move. Nobody gives their one of the successfull game titles for FREE especially while you are still charging and releasing DLC's and other content for PRICE.

Dont forget that ME2 was released a year ago ie on 26th Jan 2010 I think... so it is not very old game or so outdated that its value is 0 in the market.

Lets take Amazon PC version to assign some kind of current value to ME2:  around US$15 and £10

Might also challenge this "for FREE" concept, at least in the UK.  According to CamelCamelCamel it was selling on Amazon.co.uk for around £17.99 in the days prior to this announcement.  All of a sudden it is selling at £27.24

uk.camelcamelcamel.com/Dragon-Age-2-PC-DVD/product/B003VM8HFE

hmmm?...that difference is suspiciously close to ME2's current value ...

Edit:  Yes, it is for free to those who have bought, but it may have been part of an attempt to keep the price from being reduced too soon.

Modifié par Otterwarden, 06 avril 2011 - 03:14 .