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Soahfreako wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

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you know.... i wonder if the reapers will have a heritic type station that we got to destroy in order to defeat them. it be interesting if we got to venture into dark space and destroy the reapers by blowing w/e controlls them up

It would be if that was a plausible way of victory.



or if we blow dark space up kinda like what we did in arrival........

Do you realize that dark space is everything outside of the universe? O.o That would take a really BIG relay to accomplish.



not unless you gave tim the collector base.... imagine using that against the reapers in dark space.

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what you choose to call this topic is irrelevent, there will be victory, why would they make 3 games otherewise?

this exchange is over.. (explosion)

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After regaining control of said Network we lure the Reapers to a system like Dholen and deactivate the Relay there trapping them.  Then using Dark Energy (using very precise calculations, hello Salarians) we send the Star Nova.

Dark Energy has a peculiar ability to create Mass Effect Fields so with the right calculations the Star should go Nova at speeds exceeding the speed of light. Dodge that Reapers!


The problem is the Reapers can still generate enough power to launch themselves at FTL speeds. They may not be as powerful as the Mass Relays, but even so it would only take a matter of months to get back into the heart of the galaxy, easily out running an nova.

Modifié par 100k, 03 avril 2011 - 09:38 .


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100k wrote...

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After regaining control of said Network we lure the Reapers to a system like Dholen and deactivate the Relay there trapping them.  Then using Dark Energy (using very precise calculations, hello Salarians) we send the Star Nova.

Dark Energy has a peculiar ability to create Mass Effect Fields so with the right calculations the Star should go Nova at speeds exceeding the speed of light. Dodge that Reapers!


The problem is the Reapers can still generate enough power to launch themselves at FTL speeds. They may not be as powerful as the Mass Relays, but even so it would only take a matter of months to get back into the heart of the galaxy.


Can they out run a Supernova who's mass has been lowered enough to travel at FTL speeds?


*Edit* And are you suggesting that they would survive said Nova?

Modifié par Dave666, 03 avril 2011 - 09:44 .


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Dave666 wrote...

100k wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

After regaining control of said Network we lure the Reapers to a system like Dholen and deactivate the Relay there trapping them.  Then using Dark Energy (using very precise calculations, hello Salarians) we send the Star Nova.

Dark Energy has a peculiar ability to create Mass Effect Fields so with the right calculations the Star should go Nova at speeds exceeding the speed of light. Dodge that Reapers!


The problem is the Reapers can still generate enough power to launch themselves at FTL speeds. They may not be as powerful as the Mass Relays, but even so it would only take a matter of months to get back into the heart of the galaxy.


Can they out run a Supernova who's mass has been lowered enough to travel at FTL speeds?


*Edit* And are you suggesting that they would survive said Nova?


They might be able to escape the initial flash and explosion. Hell, the Normandy didn't really need to use the Alpha Relay to escape the explosion generated by the collision between asteroid and relay. They just needed to jump out of the system, similar to how they jumped out of the galactic core whilst the collector base was exploding. The problem is that doing a Relay-less jump would likely take weeks or months to get to any where. The Reapers wouldn't have a problem with this, as they perceive time on a much grander scale than us meat bags. But Shepard and Company? It would drain the ships resources, fuel, and energy.

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100k wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

100k wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

After regaining control of said Network we lure the Reapers to a system like Dholen and deactivate the Relay there trapping them.  Then using Dark Energy (using very precise calculations, hello Salarians) we send the Star Nova.

Dark Energy has a peculiar ability to create Mass Effect Fields so with the right calculations the Star should go Nova at speeds exceeding the speed of light. Dodge that Reapers!


The problem is the Reapers can still generate enough power to launch themselves at FTL speeds. They may not be as powerful as the Mass Relays, but even so it would only take a matter of months to get back into the heart of the galaxy.


Can they out run a Supernova who's mass has been lowered enough to travel at FTL speeds?


*Edit* And are you suggesting that they would survive said Nova?


They might be able to escape the initial flash and explosion. Hell, the Normandy didn't really need to use the Alpha Relay to escape the explosion generated by the collision between asteroid and relay. They just needed to jump out of the system, similar to how they jumped out of the galactic core whilst the collector base was exploding. The problem is that doing a Relay-less jump would likely take weeks or months to get to any where. The Reapers wouldn't have a problem with this, as they perceive time on a much grander scale than us meat bags. But Shepard and Company? It would drain the ships resources, fuel, and energy.


If the Nova is travelling at FTL speeds then it would hit them before they even see it.  You also assume that they can start up their FTL drives very fast indeed.  They're machines not gods.  They would be faster than us, certainly, but faster than FTL speeds?

*Edit* Also, what initial flash?  There would be one during a normal Supernova sure, but we're talking about a blast travelling faster than the speed of light here.

Modifié par Dave666, 03 avril 2011 - 10:18 .


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Then we die trying. Sparta style!

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Why are most of the posters trying to doom us all?

I've got a feeling Shepard will sacrifice Earth to save the rest of the Galaxy, heck I think that sounds like a plausible ending, Humanity making one last sacrifice to preserve the lifes of countless other civilizations.

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Why are most of the posters trying to doom us all?

I've got a feeling Shepard will sacrifice Earth to save the rest of the Galaxy, heck I think that sounds like a plausible ending, Humanity making one last sacrifice to preserve the lifes of countless other civilizations.


To be fair, while there are some doom and gloomers, most of them are just playing Devil's Advocate to further the discussion. :)

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So, can they just cancel ME3 now, or should we give them $60 first without even seeing what suggestion THEY have to offer about beating the Reapers?

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Saphra Deden wrote...

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It would not take the entire fleet.


Yeah it would, the Earth is a big place. I don't think you have any sense of scale.

Regardless, I won't argue this with you because if all the Reapers aren't attacking Earth then we are even more ****ed!


Ok, you won't argue, but appearantly you are underestimating Reaper combat abilities. Dreadnought stands agains a single Reaper for 0,3 seconds IIRC and that's the best case scenario.
Destroying the Earth isn't problem for Reapers, they main cannons are Dreadnought class equivelant mass accelerator weapons and according to the Codex Dread class mass accelerator weapons can destroy planets.

If Reapers main goal would be just destroying Earth it would be "Critical mission failuru" right in the start of ME3. Fortunately Reapers aren't just going to blow up Earth as their main goal is to harvest humans.
What comes to harvesting Reapers are far more than flying ships, they have indoctrination and Husk, Scion etc. production capacity too, so they are equipped to do that right from the start.

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Dave666 wrote...

100k wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

100k wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

After regaining control of said Network we lure the Reapers to a system like Dholen and deactivate the Relay there trapping them.  Then using Dark Energy (using very precise calculations, hello Salarians) we send the Star Nova.

Dark Energy has a peculiar ability to create Mass Effect Fields so with the right calculations the Star should go Nova at speeds exceeding the speed of light. Dodge that Reapers!


The problem is the Reapers can still generate enough power to launch themselves at FTL speeds. They may not be as powerful as the Mass Relays, but even so it would only take a matter of months to get back into the heart of the galaxy.


Can they out run a Supernova who's mass has been lowered enough to travel at FTL speeds?


*Edit* And are you suggesting that they would survive said Nova?


They might be able to escape the initial flash and explosion. Hell, the Normandy didn't really need to use the Alpha Relay to escape the explosion generated by the collision between asteroid and relay. They just needed to jump out of the system, similar to how they jumped out of the galactic core whilst the collector base was exploding. The problem is that doing a Relay-less jump would likely take weeks or months to get to any where. The Reapers wouldn't have a problem with this, as they perceive time on a much grander scale than us meat bags. But Shepard and Company? It would drain the ships resources, fuel, and energy.


If the Nova is travelling at FTL speeds then it would hit them before they even see it.  You also assume that they can start up their FTL drives very fast indeed.  They're machines not gods.  They would be faster than us, certainly, but faster than FTL speeds?

*Edit* Also, what initial flash?  There would be one during a normal Supernova sure, but we're talking about a blast travelling faster than the speed of light here.


This might work.

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Ice Cold J wrote...

So, can they just cancel ME3 now, or should we give them $60 first without even seeing what suggestion THEY have to offer about beating the Reapers?


There's nothing wrong with speculating, it gives us something to do while we wait. Besides we're probably all wrong and Bioware will do something truly epic that'll amaze us all. :)

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I just hope the ending will not be like : "Ah yes all the sudden Reapers can't shoot straight and forgot how to activate their shield ! B)

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Dave666 wrote...

1Nosphorus1 wrote...

Why are most of the posters trying to doom us all?

I've got a feeling Shepard will sacrifice Earth to save the rest of the Galaxy, heck I think that sounds like a plausible ending, Humanity making one last sacrifice to preserve the lifes of countless other civilizations.


To be fair, while there are some doom and gloomers, most of them are just playing Devil's Advocate to further the discussion. :)


Yep, this is a way to kill time and take a break from really horrifying things like taxes, issues in global economy etc. :lol:

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ZLurps wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

100k wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

100k wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

After regaining control of said Network we lure the Reapers to a system like Dholen and deactivate the Relay there trapping them.  Then using Dark Energy (using very precise calculations, hello Salarians) we send the Star Nova.

Dark Energy has a peculiar ability to create Mass Effect Fields so with the right calculations the Star should go Nova at speeds exceeding the speed of light. Dodge that Reapers!


The problem is the Reapers can still generate enough power to launch themselves at FTL speeds. They may not be as powerful as the Mass Relays, but even so it would only take a matter of months to get back into the heart of the galaxy.


Can they out run a Supernova who's mass has been lowered enough to travel at FTL speeds?


*Edit* And are you suggesting that they would survive said Nova?


They might be able to escape the initial flash and explosion. Hell, the Normandy didn't really need to use the Alpha Relay to escape the explosion generated by the collision between asteroid and relay. They just needed to jump out of the system, similar to how they jumped out of the galactic core whilst the collector base was exploding. The problem is that doing a Relay-less jump would likely take weeks or months to get to any where. The Reapers wouldn't have a problem with this, as they perceive time on a much grander scale than us meat bags. But Shepard and Company? It would drain the ships resources, fuel, and energy.


If the Nova is travelling at FTL speeds then it would hit them before they even see it.  You also assume that they can start up their FTL drives very fast indeed.  They're machines not gods.  They would be faster than us, certainly, but faster than FTL speeds?

*Edit* Also, what initial flash?  There would be one during a normal Supernova sure, but we're talking about a blast travelling faster than the speed of light here.


This might work.


Cheers, as I said at the start of it all though, its complete speculation.  Sure it could work, but Bioware probably has another idea tucked up their sleeves. :P

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I just hope the ending will not be like : "Ah yes all the sudden Reapers can't shoot straight and forgot how to activate their shield ! B)


That would actually be as bad as the Independance Day idea. lmao

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Twenty bucks that Liara comes up with a space-virus that destroys all Reapers.

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LumpOfCole wrote...

Twenty bucks that Liara comes up with a space-virus that destroys all Reapers.


*Weeps* Look at the above post...

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Dave666 wrote...

Cheers, as I said at the start of it all though, its complete speculation.  Sure it could work, but Bioware probably has another idea tucked up their sleeves. :P


Well, it's good to see some creative thinking for change. IIRC there was similar kind of idea on old boards. In that case they weren't blowing suns up, but instead used mass effect fields to hurl planets at Reapers. Of course nobody but BioWare knew anything about dark energy back in the day. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

But yeah, we are going to see something else when ME3 comes out but good speculation anyway.

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And that's where Shepard proves you wrong.

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ZLurps wrote...

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Cheers, as I said at the start of it all though, its complete speculation.  Sure it could work, but Bioware probably has another idea tucked up their sleeves. :P


Well, it's good to see some creative thinking for change. IIRC there was similar kind of idea on old boards. In that case they weren't blowing suns up, but instead used mass effect fields to hurl planets at Reapers. Of course nobody but BioWare knew anything about dark energy back in the day. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

But yeah, we are going to see something else when ME3 comes out but good speculation anyway.


Although, how funny would it be if I'd nailed it and the developers started bricking it! :devil:

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I hope the ending is how Shepard is chased by the reaper remaining fleet and you worked with the geth too cause a star too explode then using the mass relay too escape right before the blast killing harbinger and the other reapers a star explosion for the games climax would be SUPER epic.

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They could always pull a Benders Game; I.E. render all Eezo inert, I mean as far as plans go everyone in the universe is pretty much boned. But if the Reapers we're congregated on a planets surface I doubt they would be able to take off again, without their fancy shmancy Eezo.