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[jamesp81]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Fighters aren't exactly free to build you know. Plus you have to launch them from somewhere and the Reapers can always strike there. I do agree that with the right armament, like the thanix, they might be our best weapon against the Reapers. However there are hundreds of Reapers and we can't possibly attack them all. While we swarm a few the rest will hunt down our carriers and bases and destroy them.

Fighters are still cheap.  Admiral Mikhailovich made the comment in ME1 that for the cost of the SR1's drive core, they could've built drive cores for 12,000 fighters.

[Gentleman Moogle]

I support fighter warfare in ME3.

If I get a choice, I'ma name the main carrier the Tiger's Claw.

[jamesp81]

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

I support fighter warfare in ME3.

If I get a choice, I'ma name the main carrier the Tiger's Claw.

I was thinking SSV United States, but I do like the reference you made.

[Archereon]

I have a way we could "win."

Load up a ship or fleet of ships with about 20,000 humans in cryonic suspension, and create AIs to pilot the ships, and have them decide where to colonize. Send those ships as far away from the relay network as possible, to establish a colony on some distant world away from the relays. Have it go dark like Illos, and be ready to up and run at any time. Destroy all records of this effort, keep it as secret as possible, and kill off any people involved who are at risk of indoctrination or defection. Fight the Reapers as best you can, and die bravely so they can't rip the secrets out of your brain.

Congratulations! You've just avoided the Reaper genocide, and can spend the next 50,000 years preparing for their next arrival. Or maybe the next 800,000 years if that's what you want.

[Getorex]

By the way, dark matter is NOT like some brick of epoxy within which the visible matter of the galaxy is "stuck" in and somehow forced to rotate in, violating any law. It simply means that the VAST bulk of galactic mass is dark matter, it extends far beyond the visible edge of the galaxy, leaving the visible matter, on average, near the center of mass. The visible matter thus rotates as expected IF dark matter is the vast bulk of matter and extends far beyond the visible edge.

You cannot manipulate dark matter (like a block of epoxy or cement) and thus manipulate the movement of visible matter:

"according to Newtonian mechanics. Based on this, it would be expected that the average orbital speed of an object at a specified distance away from the majority of the mass distribution would decrease inversely with the square root of the radius of the orbit (the dashed line in Fig. 1). At the time of the discovery of the discrepancy, it was thought that most of the mass of the galaxy had to be in the galactic bulge, near the center. The rotation direction is based on how the galaxy was formed.
Observations of the rotation curve of spirals, however, do not bear this out. Rather, the curves do not decrease in the expected inverse square root relationship but are "flat" – outside of the central bulge the speed is nearly a constant (the solid line Fig. 1). The explanation that requires the least adjustment to the physical laws of the universe is that there is a substantial amount of matter far from the center of the galaxy that is not emitting light in the mass-to-light ratio of the central bulge. This extra mass is proposed by astronomers to be due to dark matter within the galactic halo, the existence of which was first posited by Fritz Zwicky some 40 years earlier in his studies of the masses of galaxy clusters. Presently, there are a large number of pieces of observational evidence that point to the presence of cold dark matter, and its existence is a major feature of the present Lambda-CDM model that describes the cosmology of the universe."

So, there's either dark matter OR MOND is correct. There is no reasonable "weapon" to derive from dinking with a block of dark matter that can somehow halt/speed up/do something crazy with the visible matter of the galaxy.

[Gentleman Moogle]

jamesp81 wrote...

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

I support fighter warfare in ME3.

If I get a choice, I'ma name the main carrier the Tiger's Claw.

I was thinking SSV United States, but I do like the reference you made.

Thanks. I have a special love for the games. Always wished they'd do more with the series. 

[Roenik]

Having the Geth on our side will be primordial to fighting the Reapers, either face to face or through subterfuge.

[Gentleman Moogle]

Roenik wrote...

Having the Geth on our side will be primordial to fighting the Reapers, either face to face or through subterfuge.

.... I don't usually do this, but that is such a massive misuse of that word, I just had to step in. 

Primordial means 'having to do with the very beginning.' 

The term you're looking for is 'key', or perhaps 'pivotal.'

/grammar ****

[xzxzxz701]

Saphra Deden wrote...

How would the geth help?

They have a fleet that I would say is the same size as the Alliance fleet, if not bigger.

They would help greatly.

[Bluefuse]

The only way to destroy a fleet of Reapers is by destroying mass relays with the system they're in. I wouldn't be surprised if the final mission had to do with luring the Reapers into a system altogether to blow them up with their own technology. Maybe to save the rest of the galaxy, we might have to face the choice of destroying our own system.

Modifié par Bluefuse, 05 avril 2011 - 11:39 .

[Gentleman Moogle]

xzxzxz701 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

How would the geth help?

They have a fleet that I would say is the same size as the Alliance fleet, if not bigger.

They would help greatly.

Add to that the fact that they think and communicate at hyperspeeds, and you have one of the most powerful armadas in existence were they ever to truly mass for war. Keep in mind, the more Geth you have in one locale, the stronger they are due to their localized hive-mind-like design. 

One Geth alone is a pushover. 

A squad of Geth are dangerous in their own right.

A thousand Geth are a match for a force ten times their size. 

A million Geth in the same place? 

Damn. 

[xzxzxz701]

Saphra Deden wrote...

You have no idea how effective the geth fleet is. The armament of those ships is a mystery and frankly I doubt it is all that spectacular. Remember that the geth's primary focus is cleaning up Rannoch and building their super computer. Those two tasks would easily eat-up most of their resources leaving them with a much more modest military.

In addition to that, what good is a fleet going to be against the Reapers? The whole of the geth fleet might be good for killing a handful of them and then it will be exhausted. Same with all the other fleets in the galaxy.

The Geth have been around for 300 or so years. Not all of there resources is spent on cleaning up Rannoch and building their super computer, thats speculation. What is a fact though is that they  are a race of sentient AIs, and they have been around for 300 years. The fleet that attacked the Citadel I assume was only part of the Geth fleet, so its pretty easy to assume the the Geth fleet is pretty big.

Even if they do manage to take out a few Reapers, or only even distract them that would be more than enough. Time is the most valuable resource in a war.

[JustHonest]

NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS!

[xzxzxz701]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Time is not the most valuable resource in war and it isn't something we have anyway. Time is by far on the Reaper's side.

Thats why by even holding off the Reapers for a week could give us a better chance at winning the war.

Modifié par xzxzxz701, 05 avril 2011 - 11:54 .

[Almostfaceman]

Saphra Deden wrote...

You have no idea how effective the geth fleet is. The armament of those ships is a mystery and frankly I doubt it is all that spectacular. Remember that the geth's primary focus is cleaning up Rannoch and building their super computer. Those two tasks would easily eat-up most of their resources leaving them with a much more modest military.

In addition to that, what good is a fleet going to be against the Reapers? The whole of the geth fleet might be good for killing a handful of them and then it will be exhausted. Same with all the other fleets in the galaxy.

First, you say you know nothing about the Geth fleet, then you doubt it is impressive and claim it would only be useful for killing a handful of Reapers.  Which is it?  

[dill72]

It is possible. We can starve the reapers they have been in dark space waiting for a meal which is long overdue so if we can prevent them from processing humans and other living beings i believe we have a shot.

Modifié par dill72, 06 avril 2011 - 12:05 .

[xzxzxz701]

Saphra Deden wrote...

xzxzxz701 wrote...

Thats why by even holding off the Reapers for a week could give us a better chance at winning the war.

What is a week to a race that has existed for over a 100 million years?

In a week they can level a dozen colonies. In short time our infrastructure will be in ruins. We won't have the fuel or food to supply our fleets.

Its a week to us, in which we could study the salvaged Reaper tech and use it to combat the Reapers.

Of course they can, and they will, but the sacrafice would be well worth it. Most of the races already have more than enough fuel and food to supply a full out war effort for years, if not decades.

Modifié par xzxzxz701, 05 avril 2011 - 11:59 .

[xzxzxz701]

dill72 wrote...

It is possible we can starve the reapers they have been in dark space waiting for a meal long overdue so if we can prevent them from processing humans and other live i believe we have a shot

They don't eat organics, they use them to create more Reapers....

[dill72]

Then why not wait another few thousand years until everyone forgets about the reapers and then attack when no one has any idea what hit them there has to be some reason they would attack other than they were mad or just for another bioware game.

Modifié par dill72, 06 avril 2011 - 12:23 .