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"Victory at any cost"-churchill
it doesnt matter how many die if shepard his team and only one percent of one percent of each species survives so be it. the repaers will fall even if i have to destroy every single relay in the galaxy

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 If you kept the collector base, you can make a reaper out of all the other reapers, and then blow it up... :huh:

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Saren100 wrote...

I think it be cool if we got to choose.

We could choose the engage them head on with a massive coalition armada.

Or the sacrifice earth by destroying the relay route.

Or a third option

We must join with him, we must join with Sauron


Sacrificing earth seems to be the most heroic thing to do. (thats assuming that all the reapers are going to attack earth though) Thats not a very good reaper plan is it? you spread out, and hit them all at once, so no one has any idea whats going on.

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but id still think atleast once out of a million times, the reapers could be defeated. so why not this time?


Once in a million a Reaper can be defeated, but not all the Reapers at once.


Oh i don't think that there is any situation where ALL the Reapers will be defeated, Remember that the Reapers are coming for the whole galaxy while the explored space in Mass Effect only counts for 0.5% of the galaxy (due to the Rachni edict).

At the very best i think that maybe the explored space will survive as a small island of life in a harvested galaxy.

It does makes one wonder though if there is some race out there in all that unexplored space that can stand up to the Reapers.

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1. Send a lot of combat drones to distract them.
2. Kill them while they are distracted.

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Anacronian Stryx wrote...

It does makes one wonder though if there is some race out there in all that unexplored space that can stand up to the Reapers.


I doubt it. The age of the relay network implies to me that the Reapers have long since explored and catalogued every star system in the galaxy.

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If EDI's observations about Reaper reproduction are correct, it could be that the Reapers are like salmon and that the 10,000 year cycle may be related to their reproduction. Maybe they raid galaxies and spend thousands of years traveling through dark space and are in a weakened state when they arrived. Still powerful, but vulnerable; otherwise why are they so hell bent on using deception? Their planned invasion has already been stalled by the Protheans rewriting the Keepers, so they may be even more vulnerable than they are used to. That's my theory, anyway.

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Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

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but id still think atleast once out of a million times, the reapers could be defeated. so why not this time?


Once in a million a Reaper can be defeated, but not all the Reapers at once.


Oh i don't think that there is any situation where ALL the Reapers will be defeated, Remember that the Reapers are coming for the whole galaxy while the explored space in Mass Effect only counts for 0.5% of the galaxy (due to the Rachni edict).

At the very best i think that maybe the explored space will survive as a small island of life in a harvested galaxy.

It does makes one wonder though if there is some race out there in all that unexplored space that can stand up to the Reapers.

they would be  a very good possibility seeing as they havent discovered the citadel they probably didnt use relay tech and instead just advanced on ther own

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Still powerful, but vulnerable; otherwise why are they so hell bent on using deception?


It's resource efficient.

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vx SmOkEy xv wrote...

A virus could work, as long as its brief, say to disable shields (Independence day)
or you infiltrate harbinger and blow the f*cker up from the inside?



Disabling shields is fine for very short periods, its already used in the microcosom (ie, you overloading shields in combat)
 but those Reapers appear to be still very solid, shields should really only take up 5-10% of thier defenses.

I am tired of putting shepard inside or near reaper technology. With the amount of exposure, you would have thought that he would have some indoctrination by now.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

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It does makes one wonder though if there is some race out there in all that unexplored space that can stand up to the Reapers.


I doubt it. The age of the relay network implies to me that the Reapers have long since explored and catalogued every star system in the galaxy.


Well cataloging star systems are well and good but it doesn't preclude that some species could have ascended since the last harvest unknown to even the reapers especially if they don't use the relay system for transportation.

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I still wonder how they're going to work out a satisfying ending, because, when you get down to it, the final showdown is going to be you and two buddies taking on the final bad guy with machine guns. Even if they go the DA2 route and have the rest of your squad attacking the final boss at the same time while you only have direct control of three people it may still stretch credulity to the breaking point. Although the I'm sure we're going to see Shepard running for his or her life away from a big f'n explosion after that showdown.

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Place entire Alliance Fleet around Earth.

Come and get em.

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Or maybe Bioware will be inspired by LotSB and have Shepard go fight club on the boss' butt. Bionic elbow of death followed by the Shepard Shuffle Victory Dance, baby! Woo!

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I want the Reapers to win

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Lukertin wrote...

Place entire Alliance Fleet around Earth.

Come and get em.


Erm...One Reaper managed to decimate a huge chunk of the Citadel's defence fleet...What could Earth do if 10 Reapers showed up? Or 100?

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Dave666 wrote...

Lukertin wrote...

Place entire Alliance Fleet around Earth.

Come and get em.


Erm...One Reaper managed to decimate a huge chunk of the Citadel's defence fleet...What could Earth do if 10 Reapers showed up? Or 100?


They can Bomb Earth so the reapers can't have it... ultimate Spite! Image IPB

*fleet turns around an levels everything on Earth*

Fleet comander : "Ha no life on Earth anymore nanana no harvest here Reaper-deaper!!"

Reapers : "You people are F****** insane!"

Modifié par Anacronian Stryx, 02 avril 2011 - 01:07 .


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Well cataloging star systems are well and good but it doesn't preclude that some species could have ascended since the last harvest unknown to even the reapers especially if they don't use the relay system for transportation.


Possible, but I would imagine the Reapers have accounted for that. Just because a species doesn't reach the Citadel doesn't mean they won't be discovered. The Reapers would know ahead of time every possible garden planet in the galaxy and would ensure a relay was close by. Of-course some races might be smart enough never to use the damned things.

(Had I been there I'd have never allowed the Alliance to use the Charon relay. In fact I would have attempted to deactivate it and dismantle it)

Once the immediate threats are out of the way I'm sure the Reapers would begin diligently checking every inch of the relay network and its surrounding areas to locate any other space-faring or near-space-faring races.

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Dave666 wrote...

Lukertin wrote...

Place entire Alliance Fleet around Earth.

Come and get em.


Erm...One Reaper managed to decimate a huge chunk of the Citadel's defence fleet...What could Earth do if 10 Reapers showed up? Or 100?


No, a Geth fleet managed to decimate a huge chunk of the Citadel's fleet, not just Sovereign.

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I'm pretty sure that we'll just suck the reapers into a black hole. The reapers would be, if not destroyed, at least transported into the farthest reaches of dark space where it would take thousands of years to get proper navagational readings, and interstellar positioning. Hell, they might end up somewhere so far beyond the ME galaxy, that they would be completely lost, and stumble upon a civilization that would crush them like ants.

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100k wrote...

I'm pretty sure that we'll just suck the reapers into a black hole. The reapers would be, if not destroyed, at least transported into the farthest reaches of dark space where it would take thousands of years to get proper navagational readings, and interstellar positioning. Hell, they might end up somewhere so far beyond the ME galaxy, that they would be completely lost, and stumble upon a civilization that would crush them like ants.


This might work, some cry "we didn't actualy destroy them then!" but it kinda fits. Shepard would just say, now we can get really prepared! It would end ME3 in victory as well as allow for expansion of the IP afterward

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Saphra Deden wrote...

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Well cataloging star systems are well and good but it doesn't preclude that some species could have ascended since the last harvest unknown to even the reapers especially if they don't use the relay system for transportation.


Possible, but I would imagine the Reapers have accounted for that. Just because a species doesn't reach the Citadel doesn't mean they won't be discovered. The Reapers would know ahead of time every possible garden planet in the galaxy and would ensure a relay was close by. Of-course some races might be smart enough never to use the damned things.

(Had I been there I'd have never allowed the Alliance to use the Charon relay. In fact I would have attempted to deactivate it and dismantle it)

Once the immediate threats are out of the way I'm sure the Reapers would begin diligently checking every inch of the relay network and its surrounding areas to locate any other space-faring or near-space-faring races.


Well they counted on all the races found a way to the citadel though exploration by the citadel races and the exploration of emerging races and then the reapers could just waltz in take over the citadel and have files on the location of every race or at least the location of their primary worlds.

Now since the exploration of the citadel races have effectively been stopped for 2000 years since the rachni wars there is a high probability that there are a whole host of races out there that haven't been encountered and are pretty much unknown to the reapers.

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Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Now since the exploration of the citadel races have effectively been stopped for 2000 years since the rachni wars there is a high probability that there are a whole host of races out there that haven't been encountered and are pretty much unknown to the reapers.


Which just means it will take them longer to hunt them do.

The Protheans were merely delaying the inevitable. As has Shepard.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Now since the exploration of the citadel races have effectively been stopped for 2000 years since the rachni wars there is a high probability that there are a whole host of races out there that haven't been encountered and are pretty much unknown to the reapers.


Which just means it will take them longer to hunt them do.

The Protheans were merely delaying the inevitable. As has Shepard.


ehh...never mind.

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Vigil said it's a mystery why the reapers commit these galaxy wide genocides, saying that because they're machines they operate on a logic different then us

although in ME2 it was revealed that reapers 'harvest' organic species for their version of reproduction and to create more mindless workers but this i don't think is the full story

i think in ME3 we are finally going to fully understand why the reapers do what they do and shepherd will use this to his advantage,

i think it might have something to do with the reapers energy supply after all vigil said that between cycles the reapers hide in darkspace to conserve power which makes me think their energy supply isn't limitless

ill admit the plot for ME2 wasn't that great (you practically knew the ending 5 minutes in) but i'm not complaining because i bet a lot of aspects from the collector base mission, suicide mission and the dead reaper mission are going to help shepherd finish the fight