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It's Impossible to Defeat the Reapers

Débuté par Guest_Saphra Deden_* , avril 02 2011 12:04

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Posté 28 mai 2011 - 06:10

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Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

LOL, this thread is on N7 Academy too.

The new man-giraffe-dog?


I believe I posted this there too, yes.


Nashiktal wrote...

Oh and lets forget all about the collectors shall we? For reaper minions we blow through them like paper.


Commander Shepard did, sure, but s/he's among the best of the best in the galaxy. In any case, killing Reaper minions won't tell us much. We can kill billions of Reaper minions and never get anywhere. I'll be impressed and relieved when we can easily disable a Reaper dreadnought.

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Posté 29 mai 2011 - 03:41

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You make a valid point. Or at least you would if this wasn't a video game and thus a victory is all but guaranteed :/

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Posté 29 mai 2011 - 07:20

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I have my fingers crossed that Bioware will make ME3 a game where we can actually lose again. I'm sure there will be a way to win, but you almost have to intentionally screw up to have Shepard die in ME2, in ME3 it should be possible to lose simply by making a very serious mistake at the end of the game.

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Posté 30 mai 2011 - 11:44

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I can't be bothered to go through 30 pages of posts, so I'm going to assume that the mass effect wiki article about the planet Klencory and the "beings of light" has never been brought up. Do you guys think that that was a really well hidden hint? Figured this was kind of on topic since it make note of a defense against the reapers, fake or not.

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Posté 31 mai 2011 - 05:14

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As a firm believer that Sovereign lied about their origins and that they have more pride than Zeus, I have one thing to say to the Reapers
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Posté 31 mai 2011 - 06:35

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I have my theories on their upcoming defeat:

1. Tell Harbinger "This sentence is false!"
2. Ask Harbinger if a set of all sets contains itself.
3. Have a fellow AI (Legion or EDI) tell Harbinger and the other Reapers that silicon heaven does not exist and that calculators just die.

Their systems will overload from confusion and over-analysis and they will simply obliterate themselves. They'll never see it coming! B)

Modifié par Omega Torsk, 31 mai 2011 - 07:58 .

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HolyWarrior21
Posté 02 juin 2011 - 12:48

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I think we are screwed......RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!

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Reapinger
Posté 02 juin 2011 - 12:51

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Calculate the exact value of Pi Harbinger.

I win and they will be on standby till we blow them to bits.

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Posté 02 juin 2011 - 01:03

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Norad2 wrote...

I can't be bothered to go through 30 pages of posts, so I'm going to assume that the mass effect wiki article about the planet Klencory and the "beings of light" has never been brought up. Do you guys think that that was a really well hidden hint? Figured this was kind of on topic since it make note of a defense against the reapers, fake or not.


Sounds like a fairtale to me, though I won't be surprised if Bioware makes Klencory a plot world in ME3. It might be too predictable though. Sounds suspiciousy like the kind of ending I hate in fiction.

I want the heroes to win because they fight hard and clever... not because they summon undead spirits to save them. (The LOTR trilogy SUCKED)

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Posté 02 juin 2011 - 01:08

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Klencory sounds like the delusions of a drugged out volus to me. If it is the reason for victory, i want it to be something that takes the fight from 'impossible' to 'slightly possible' not an ace up shepards sleeve.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake
Posté 02 juin 2011 - 01:12

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

What happens when you put a human up against a computer designed to win at Jeopardy or Chess? There's a real example and it isn't a pretty one.


Last time I checked, the computer kicked everyone's asses in Jeopardy.


Simple solution the computer is designed to win at Chess, you play monopoly.
It's designed to win at Jeopardy you play wipeout.

We have this amazingly glorious ability to circumnavigate rules for our own advantage example (The entire history of human conflict.

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Posté 02 juin 2011 - 01:16

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Simple solution the computer is designed to win at Chess, you play monopoly.
It's designed to win at Jeopardy you play wipeout.

We have this amazingly glorious ability to circumnavigate rules for our own advantage example (The entire history of human conflict.


What about when you run into a computer designed to win at everything?

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Posté 02 juin 2011 - 01:17

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Then you invent a new game.

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Posté 02 juin 2011 - 01:19

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Simple solution the computer is designed to win at Chess, you play monopoly.
It's designed to win at Jeopardy you play wipeout.

We have this amazingly glorious ability to circumnavigate rules for our own advantage example (The entire history of human conflict.


What about when you run into a computer designed to win at everything?

throw it in a lake

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Posté 02 juin 2011 - 01:23

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thurmanator692 wrote...

throw it in a lake


"Everything" means it can probably swim and can probably invent new games better than you can too. We're talking about a computer designed to do anything a human can do and to do it better. No reason such a computer can't exist.

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Posté 02 juin 2011 - 01:26

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ah, i thought we were speaking in terms of literal games. my bad.

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Posté 02 juin 2011 - 01:31

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You think the reapers will go for the citadel again? There was deffinately vallidity to that plan, and going for it with more force may be seen as a credible attack

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Posté 02 juin 2011 - 02:10

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Simple solution the computer is designed to win at Chess, you play monopoly.
It's designed to win at Jeopardy you play wipeout.

We have this amazingly glorious ability to circumnavigate rules for our own advantage example (The entire history of human conflict.


What about when you run into a computer designed to win at everything?


It's still a computer, EMP it. 

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Posté 02 juin 2011 - 02:20

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Simple solution the computer is designed to win at Chess, you play monopoly.
It's designed to win at Jeopardy you play wipeout.

We have this amazingly glorious ability to circumnavigate rules for our own advantage example (The entire history of human conflict.


What about when you run into a computer designed to win at everything?

You purposefully try to lose.
It won't expect no competetion, will expect it's already won and cease conflict!:wizard:
And if that doesn't work BEAM SPAM GLORIOUS BEAM SPAM! With ludicrous amounts of MORE DAKKA.

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 02 juin 2011 - 02:22 .

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Posté 02 juin 2011 - 02:22

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Simple solution the computer is designed to win at Chess, you play monopoly.
It's designed to win at Jeopardy you play wipeout.

We have this amazingly glorious ability to circumnavigate rules for our own advantage example (The entire history of human conflict.


What about when you run into a computer designed to win at everything?

You purposefully try to lose.
It won't expect no competetion, will expect it's already won and cease conflict!:wizard:


This was my initial thought hahaha:wizard:

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Joshua N7
Posté 02 juin 2011 - 08:27

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After Mass Effect 1 and 2 you can't really say something is impossible for Commander Shepard. I said this in another post Garrus gave Commander Shepard magical powers. :wizard:

Modifié par Joshua N7, 02 juin 2011 - 08:28 .

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Posté 02 juin 2011 - 09:00

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Reapinger wrote...

It's still a computer, EMP it. 


They are not neccessarily vulnerable to EMP.

You are assuming they are solid state computers rather than organic. Everything we have seen of Reaper tech from the husks to the Collectors to the slushies to the Reaper larvae suggest they are actually organic.

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Joshua N7
Posté 02 juin 2011 - 09:04

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...I still think that Shepard can use magical powers on the Reapers...

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Posté 02 juin 2011 - 09:04

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Saphra Deden wrote...

What about when you run into a computer designed to win at everything?


Designed to win and even well designed does not equate to a lack of design flaws.

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Joshua N7
Posté 02 juin 2011 - 10:17

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