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[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Saphra Deden wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The ancestral home isn't as huge a deal as it would be for us. The majority of humanity today weren't born on Earth they were born on Mars or the other planets in the solar system or off in other parts of the galaxy...

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ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

Also you forget that we won't be alone in the fight every other specie in the galaxy is going to be on the same page as us so its not going to have to be all us.

Which won't be enough. All those ships will just be fodder. How many Thanix shots do you think it would take to kill a Reaper? How many ships do you think a Reaper can destroy before being taken down? Again, as always, I point to the battle with Sovereign.

Anyway, on the topic of Earth... losing it would destroy humanity's relevance on the galactic stage. Most of our species would be dead and along with it our ability to fund our military, expand our colonies, and produce and consume in the galactic market. We'd be a tiny bit player and we would soon find ourselves under the direction of other species.

A grim fate.

Waaaaaaaaaaay better than extinction/huskification/reaper smoothiefication.

[this isnt my name]

Personally I think it would be a better ending if ou could choose to wipe out human colonies, deny the reapers thier harvest, you choose extinction over the idea of helping them. Or you decide survival is the only thing that matters, even if it means as a reaper.

Reapers should win. They were built up as some godlike force we cnat comprehend. Why ruin that by some crappy illogical weakness only shepard finds.

Besides now becuase of ME3 we know Cerberus sides with reapers, bartarians are indoctrinated and huskified, turians are getting wiped out, geth still side with reapers. Sure we have Rachni, but remember the wars, how they were indoctrinated, that could happen again, all it takes is one queen. I think the game should continue to show the reapers as godlike beings we just cant comprehend. Then ME can go past shepard, you could have different universes each risen after another cycle, or we could see thigns differently if we end up in a future game playing as an agent of the reapers. Aside from the fact they should win, it also gives more possibilites for future stories.

[Arcadia364]

It would be interesting if shepard became indocrinated from the amount of exposure he has had to reaper tech
Maybe make it harder to save civilisation than it was to save shepard from death
maybe a renegade option to sell out humanity join the reapers and rule in harmony with them >

[Aradace]

Interesting arguement, and no doubt there will probably be an ending where everyone does die and the reapers win. However, to sit there and try to say that "every" ending could potentially be that way is a little ridiculous. It's a video game. And much like in Hollywood, more often than not, you dont see an ending where "everyone dies".

Bioware isnt going to screw the proverbial pooch and make it a kobiyashimaru scenario no matter what you do because there are alot of players who have invested waaaaaaaaay too much time into this trilogy just to have it all pissed on by having the reapers win no matter what you do.

Now in a "realistic" scenario, yea, we'd all probably be screwed, blued, and tattooed so to speak. But again, this is a video game. The likelihood of "us" losing in every scenario is slim to none.

[Smeelia]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I disagree. We'll be doomed to mediocrity, eventually being swallowed up by other civilizations and vanishing form the history books. As a Reaper though, we'll be among higher life-forms. We'll be ageless, and we'll shape the universe.

If we became a Reaper then we'd be a Reaper, not human.  The Reapers don't change, they just do the same things so joining them is being "doomed to mediocrity" since we'd just be another "nation" in a sea of suspiciously similar "nations".  The only "people" that would remember us are our fellow Reapers (who spend most of their time sleeping and not doing much else) and anyone else we meet will most likely be soon to vanish and will probably never know anything about us (especially as humans).

At least if we're alive as a species we can make our way out of mediocrity.  Before joining the galactic community humans weren't a major power, they progressed until they were able to join the community and then continued to progress.  A massive setback isn't the same as being permanently set aside.

We can't know every detail about everything and we don't know nearly enough to say the Reapers are unstoppable (especially since progress has been made).  In ME3 it's very likely it'll be shown that they can be stopped, it may not be what you expected but that wont make it invalid.  Of course, if it turns out to be very poorly written and leaves a lot of plot holes then we may never have an answer of whether it was "realistically" possible (there'll probably be some debate anyway) but hopefully they'll do something that makes sense (even if it ends up being "improbable").

The word "impossible" really gets misused a lot, "realistic" also seems to suffer the same.

Modifié par Smeelia, 20 juin 2011 - 02:18 .

[Zaalbar]

I'm interested to see how Bioware will pull this off. When i first finished ME2 and saw the reapers for the first time in dark space my first impression was "Holy Crap, We're Screwed!" There is simply millions of them. But its obvious that as powerful as the reapers are and how many there is they will no doubt have some kind of weakness that Bioware is yet to reveal. I'm thinking one possible weakness the reapers appear to have is when they are in there hibernation state in dark space, its maybe possible with the help EDI who has built in reaper technology in her construction that the Reapers could possibly be forced back into this state leaving them open to attack. Also when i think back to the ME1 when Sovereign had taken control of Saran's corpse and after his defeat Sovereign was disorientated shutting down his defences giving the Alliance the opportunity to take it out. So the Reapers do have weakness's, and they also appear to be over confident so how Shepard will exploit this in ME3 remains to be seen, but one thing is certain and given the multiple endings this game will no doubt have you can guarantee at least one will be the defeat of the Reapers followed by a celebration with the Ewoks,

[Aradace]

zaalbar76 wrote...

I'm interested to see how Bioware will pull this off. When i first finished ME2 and saw the reapers for the first time in dark space my first impression was "Holy Crap, We're Screwed!" There is simply millions of them. But its obvious that as powerful as the reapers are and how many there is they will no doubt have some kind of weakness that Bioware is yet to reveal. I'm thinking one possible weakness the reapers appear to have is when they are in there hibernation state in dark space, its maybe possible with the help EDI who has built in reaper technology in her construction that the Reapers could possibly be forced back into this state leaving them open to attack. Also when i think back to the ME1 when Sovereign had taken control of Saran's corpse and after his defeat Sovereign was disorientated shutting down his defences giving the Alliance the opportunity to take it out. So the Reapers do have weakness's, and they also appear to be over confident so how Shepard will exploit this in ME3 remains to be seen, but one thing is certain and given the multiple endings this game will no doubt have you can guarantee at least one will be the defeat of the Reapers followed by a celebration with the Ewoks,

We'll end up finding a way to beat them no worries there lol...Just so long as they dont have all this build up for a lame ass "War of the Worlds" ending where something as simple as bacteria or germs kill them.  (I know neither of those would do it but the idea should be clear)  Seriously, I'd want to put my head through my TV if they did that 

[TheRevanchist]

Word of God says the Reapers can lose... http://www.pcgamer.c...details-arrive/

[Arcadia364]

I swear if after all the time i put into this trilogy we get ONE ending no matter what like me2 and 1
then i will be furious

[ThePwener]

Arcadia364 wrote...

I swear if after all the time i put into this trilogy we get ONE ending no matter what like me2 and 1
then i will be furious

Technically, ME1 has 2 endings, both with 2 sub endings attached to them. ME2 did indeed only have 1 ending though, but ME2 connects immediately with ME3, so it's not really an ending. ME3 promises to have multiple endings. As long as they are real cutscenes and not cheap Fallout: New Vegas pictures, Im a happy panda (wathever that means).

As for defeating the Reapers.... Quarian fleet missile assault on Reaper bases disagrees.

Modifié par ThePwener, 23 juin 2011 - 09:36 .

[Arcadia364]

Quarian fleet is weak and vunerable
3 liveships and if even one goes millions of quarians starve
to be honest only the geth seem to have any kind of chance of harming the reapers

[WhiteKnyght]

The OP has been INDOCTRINATED! We've got to stop him before he tells the Reapers about our secrets!

Joking aside. Nothing is unkillable. The Reapers are machines more than anything and machines can be taken down, one way or another.

[breakdown71289]

It's true though.....nothing in the galaxy is invincible, so therefore, reapers are not invincible. One way or another, the reapers will fall. Remember, a large part of the game is finding out just what the weakness of the reapers are, which means that shepard and co. will defeat them once they've been exposed to whatever it is that ultimately causes their inevitable downfall.

Modifié par breakdown71289, 26 juin 2011 - 01:17 .

[breakdown71289]

 Or maybe just enough.....enough to drive them back into dark space at least 

Modifié par breakdown71289, 26 juin 2011 - 02:42 .

[FrozenShadow]

I guess the only way to kill or even try to kill Reapers is sheer numbers. It's like in Battle of Isandlwana in 1879, where British Empire, regardless of their superior weaponry and other technology, lost against more primitive Zulu forces.

Now situation is quite same, but with better technology in both sides. Reapers are technologically much more advanced, but even they survive, if enemy clearly outnumbers them. I guess this is even the reason, why Shep is trying to unite galactic races.

It's not about quality, but quantity in this case.

Modifié par Newart, 26 juin 2011 - 09:41 .

[iWeedle x]

would rubbing magnets on the reapers work

[FrozenShadow]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Newart wrote...

I guess the only way to kill or even try to kill Reapers is sheer numbers.

Numbers won't be enough. You mass everyone together like that and the Reapers will just ignore you while they spread out and destroy all the settled worlds.

Well that possible, eve likely. But I see it as being best choice the galaxy have.

Gather you numbers and then hope the best.

[Arcadia364]

Saphra Deden wrote...

What makes you think the geth will fare any better? They're too busy cleaning up trash and building their dyson sphere.

They dont need gravity or air and i would assume that various hostile encounters from organics would have pushed them into creating a large fleet

Not many of them will last long before they get hacked [Again] and turned on us

Modifié par Arcadia364, 28 juin 2011 - 08:55 .