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[Almostfaceman]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

You have no facts it's all speculation.  Prove it's not speculation.

Sweety, that isn't how this works. If you say my accusations are baseless then the onus is on you to demonstrate why. As for the support for my side, I have the codex which has articles about space combat. I also have the events of the first game which showed us what it took to bring down just one Reaper. Then there are the events of ME2 and Retribution which demonstrate Reaper quantum-entaglement technology vastly more developed than our own.

You didn't answer any of my questions, because it reveals you'll have to guess.  This is all an exercise in speculation.  The Reapers have quantum entaglement, where are they going to use it? What are all the possible ways we can respond?  What hidden technologies may we uncover before the Reapers arrive?  And on and on and on.

We have history, we don't have time machines and crystal balls to see into the future.  None of us can see into the future.  It's all guesswork.  Speculation.

Weeeeeeee 

[himmelgeher]

Why is everyone so eager to destroy Earth? What about Palaven and Thessia?

[Getorex]

This entire argument is...goofy.

If I were to pick apart the logic underlying the game and its universe, I could quite easily - it is sci-fi and NOT of the hard sci-fi variety. It is not sci-fi written by a physicist or cosmologist, etc. It has holes in it if you look too close. One of the holes is a race of uber-destroyers who have been doing it time after time after time for millions, even billions of years. The fact that they've pulled it off so many times without a hiccup, the fact that they are so far advanced above any and all they face, would mean they could not be beaten (or someone over the last few billion years would have pulled it off!)

But I don't analyze it that closely because...the game is fun and clever and is chock full of hot alien chicks. What more could one want? That's enough for anyone really.

There IS a suspicion in my mind, given that the Reapers are some form of machine/biology amalgam, that a final "fix" will be in the form of some software virus. Hope not but I see that someone else voiced that hypothesis too. I still say, given the game logic, that it would be more reasonable to do what apparently NO one has done before (because it is so drastic): destroy/disable the mass relays. They are absolutely essential for Reaper invasions and as a means of taking advantage of EVERY stellar civilization's dependence upon this "found tech". ALL previous advanced galactic civs found, used, became dependent upon the already extant relays. That is the Reaper plan/trap. Undo the trap, undo their ability to be naughty.

[Alexein]

@Saphra Deden

Does this mean we should not buy ME3 if we prefer games with win conditions?

[Almostfaceman]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

You didn't answer any of my questions, because it reveals you'll have to guess.

No, I didn't answer your questions because they aren't relevant to the discussion.

Demonstrate why I'm wrong, demonstrate that I'm speculating, or save face and back out of the argument. I'm out of your league.

*giggle* I don't have to demonstrate you're wrong, because you're guessing what will happen.  You don't dictate how this discussion goes forward.  If you can't prove your argument is not speculation, then you have no leg to stand on in calling it "truth" or "fact".  Prove that you're not guessing about what will happen.

I can prove you're guessing - because nothing you've said has happened yet.

Yeeeehaawwww!!!! 

[Getorex]

himmelgeher wrote...

Why is everyone so eager to destroy Earth? What about Palaven and Thessia?

Indeed.

The Batarians are obnoxious and ugly. Let's blow their sh*t up. Or get the Krogan to get off their rock and blow it up. Afterall, they've blown that sh*t up again and again in their history so why not do it right?

Quit picking on earth! Blow up some ugly people's planet instead. Or some colony planet somewhere.

[himmelgeher]

Nyoka wrote...

himmelgeher wrote...

Why is everyone so eager to destroy Earth? What about Palaven and Thessia?

We are humans. We don't care about those. Destroying the earth is dramatic.

And completely idiotic on our part. There are around 11 BILLION humans on Earth iirc, it would effectively be genocide against our own people. Unless you're cool with genocide.

[Alexein]

Am i being ignored? i just want to know if ME3 will have us (shepard) defeating the reapers or not. If not, i'm not buying it.

Will ME3 feature Reaper defeat or not?

[himmelgeher]

Alexein wrote...

Am i being ignored? i just want to know if ME3 will have us (shepard) defeating the reapers or not. If not, i'm not buying it.

Will ME3 feature Reaper defeat or not?

Yes

[Alexein]

himmelgeher wrote...

Alexein wrote...

Am i being ignored? i just want to know if ME3 will have us (shepard) defeating the reapers or not. If not, i'm not buying it.

Will ME3 feature Reaper defeat or not?

Yes

So what are we arguing about then?

[Akizora]

Final Mission: Shepard must travel to Mars and find a doomsday weapon to Deus Ex Machina himself to victory with a virus...So he wins.

[Almostfaceman]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

I don't have to demonstrate you're wrong, because you're guessing what will happen.

You need to demonstrate that I'm guessing by discrediting the facts I am basing my argument on.

Your "facts" are guesswork at best.

Now, simply drag the future into the present and prove you're right.  Oh wait, you can't.

[himmelgeher]

Nyoka wrote...

himmelgeher wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

himmelgeher wrote...

Why is everyone so eager to destroy Earth? What about Palaven and Thessia?

We are humans. We don't care about those. Destroying the earth is dramatic.

And completely idiotic on our part. There are around 11 BILLION humans on Earth iirc, it would effectively be genocide against our own people. Unless you're cool with genocide.

Ah, I bet there was a lot of people in Dresden that day, too.

What is Dresden?

[himmelgeher]

Alexein wrote...

himmelgeher wrote...

Alexein wrote...

Am i being ignored? i just want to know if ME3 will have us (shepard) defeating the reapers or not. If not, i'm not buying it.

Will ME3 feature Reaper defeat or not?

Yes

So what are we arguing about then?

OP doesn't agree that we could do it.

[Devbo22]

If the reapers were to win in the end, I think the rage from this forum would transcend everything we know/comprehend. The world would blow in a supernova of nerd rage.

[himmelgeher]

Nyoka wrote...

You should wikipedia it, it's kinda OT here, and too long to explain.

Are you referring to the people we napalmed in WWII?

[Alexein]

himmelgeher wrote...

Alexein wrote...

himmelgeher wrote...

Alexein wrote...

Am i being ignored? i just want to know if ME3 will have us (shepard) defeating the reapers or not. If not, i'm not buying it.

Will ME3 feature Reaper defeat or not?

Yes

So what are we arguing about then?

OP doesn't agree that we could do it.

Doesn't really matter what the OP thinks, if bioware is going to do it, then thats how the game will play out.
Video games are made by people, the people making ME3 in this case is bioware, and they decide what will happen.

I just don't see the argument, unless the OP works at bioware. or someone else in this thread does.

(for the record i don't)

Modifié par Alexein, 02 avril 2011 - 02:22 .