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[SSJ5]

Would you like to see a Prothean that has somehow survived (in stasis, gravity well of a black hole, etc...) or has been created from Prothean/or Collector DNA (and given the cipher by Sheppard)? We've got so much hype and info on the Protheans and yet its all sketchy, at best. I'd like to see a living Prothean in Mass Efffect 3.

[marshalleck]

No, I wouldn't like to see that. I think it sounds horribly contrived.

[vx SmOkEy xv]

I think the most were going to get is a corpse, frozen in a tank or something like that, if we are going to see one.

[SSJ5]

marshalleck wrote...

No, I wouldn't like to see that. I think it sounds horribly contrived.

In my opnion it would be really natural to the story. I mean people have been trying to find out everything they can about the Protheans. Now we have dead Collectors (on Horizon I think) and knowledge that they were Protheans. Info could leak easily (or could have been brokered by Shadow Broker), and someone could get ahold of Collector DNA. All they would need is the Cipher and there is your Prothean. He, along with the cipher would be a real asset to the crew and the galaxy, cause he could tell them what works against the Reapers and what doesn't. He wouldn't likely know a lot (or would gain knowledge slowly as the story progresses), but he could be a great help.

[Seboist]

I would like a "Prothean" teammate in the form of a Collector body being controlled by EDI.

[SSJ5]

Another thing that just occurred to me is that if you left the bast to Cerberus, it could hold Prothean DNA. And Cerberus would likely attempt to make a Prothean of their own. Also, Shadow Broker could have had that already in effect, cause in LotSB Liara says he was trying to save himself from the Reapers, and thought Protheans were the key.

Modifié par SSJ5, 02 avril 2011 - 01:22 .

[marshalleck]

SSJ5 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

No, I wouldn't like to see that. I think it sounds horribly contrived.

In my opnion it would be really natural to the story. I mean people have been trying to find out everything they can about the Protheans. Now we have dead Collectors (on Horizon I think) and knowledge that they were Protheans. Info could leak easily (or could have been brokered by Shadow Broker), and someone could get ahold of Collector DNA. All they would need is the Cipher and there is your Prothean. He, along with the cipher would be a real asset to the crew and the galaxy, cause he could tell them what works against the Reapers and what doesn't. He wouldn't likely know a lot (or would gain knowledge slowly as the story progresses), but he could be a great help.

Well I still don't think ME3 needs a Jurassic Prothean subplot. 

Also, you're forgetting that EDI quite clearly stated Collectors are no longer Protheans. They are extensively modified. It was only the so-called quadruple helix strand structure and a few identifiers that allowed her to infer the link. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 02 avril 2011 - 01:29 .

[eye basher]

No the protheans gone,dead,finished,screwed,history they are taking the eternal dirtnap.

[SSJ5]

marshalleck wrote...

SSJ5 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

No, I wouldn't like to see that. I think it sounds horribly contrived.

In my opnion it would be really natural to the story. I mean people have been trying to find out everything they can about the Protheans. Now we have dead Collectors (on Horizon I think) and knowledge that they were Protheans. Info could leak easily (or could have been brokered by Shadow Broker), and someone could get ahold of Collector DNA. All they would need is the Cipher and there is your Prothean. He, along with the cipher would be a real asset to the crew and the galaxy, cause he could tell them what works against the Reapers and what doesn't. He wouldn't likely know a lot (or would gain knowledge slowly as the story progresses), but he could be a great help.

Well I still don't think ME3 needs a Jurassic Prothean subplot. 

Also, you're forgetting that EDI quite clearly stated Collectors are no longer Protheans. They are extensively modified. It was only the so-called quadruple helix strand structure and a few identifiers that allowed her to infer the link. 

They may not be Proheans, but they are a start. Also, that just may be enough to complete what the galaxy already knows about Prothean DNA. Their DNA is still there in the Collectors. Its just not complete. Its obivous what Reapers added. You just need to factor that out and go with what you already know (And what the Shadow Broker already knows), and you could, conceivably, make a Prothean.

Modifié par SSJ5, 02 avril 2011 - 01:40 .

[marshalleck]

SSJ5 wrote...

They may not be Proheans, but they are a start. Also, that just may be enough to complete what the galaxy already knows about Prothean DNA. Their DNA is still there in the Collectors. Its just not complete. Its obivous what Reapers added. You just need to factor that out and go with what you already know (And what the Shadow Broker already knows), and you could, conceivably, make a Prothean.

I'm sorry, you're actually just wrong. I played through the Collector Ship mission this morning as I was preparing another Shepard to do Arrival, and EDI quite clearly states that the Collector DNA is no longer Prothean, and that the Reapers didn't just "add" DNA, they also removed it. In effect they cleaned up the code so to speak, to get rid of all the legacy junk, the inactive portions, mutations, etc. all of which accumulates in a species naturally over millions of years of evolution. The Reapers stripped all of that out and rearranged the rest. The Collectors simply are no longer Protheans. They were at one time and the quadruple helix structure as well as a few markers still remain, but it's nothing you could simply work backwards from. 

 at 6:50 

Modifié par marshalleck, 02 avril 2011 - 01:54 .

[dleo95]

if a prothean magically survived....

it would be dead....

no life form in the ME universe can live over 50,000 years...

plus if it was cyrogenically frozen it would probably go on a rampage thinking everyone is working with the destructive reapers and go kamikaze...

[Tazzmission]

[quote]dleo95 wrote...

if a prothean magically survived....

it would be dead....

no life form in the ME universe can live over 50,000 years...

quote]


unless if there were awaken from the stasis pods on ilos..... im just throwing it out there.......

[AdmiralCheez]

dleo95 wrote...

no life form in the ME universe can live over 50,000 years...

Thorian.

Anyway, nah.  I thought a prothean squadmate would be cool at some point (imagine having to deal with being 50k years in the future and the last of your kind), but it's too easy to do it wrong, and we honestly don't need one.

[SSJ5]

marshalleck wrote...

SSJ5 wrote...

They may not be Proheans, but they are a start. Also, that just may be enough to complete what the galaxy already knows about Prothean DNA. Their DNA is still there in the Collectors. Its just not complete. Its obivous what Reapers added. You just need to factor that out and go with what you already know (And what the Shadow Broker already knows), and you could, conceivably, make a Prothean.

I'm sorry, you're actually just wrong. I played through the Collector Ship mission this morning as I was preparing another Shepard to do Arrival, and EDI quite clearly states that the Collector DNA is no longer Prothean, and that the Reapers didn't just "add" DNA, they also removed it. In effect they cleaned up the code so to speak, to get rid of all the legacy junk, the inactive portions, mutations, etc. all of which accumulates in a species naturally over millions of years of evolution. The Reapers stripped all of that out and rearranged the rest. The Collectors simply are no longer Protheans. They were at one time and the quadruple helix structure as well as a few markers still remain, but it's nothing you could simply work backwards from. 

 at 6:50 

DNA of the great apes is not human but 96% of it is identical to us (I hope you see where I'm going with this). There was need to rewrite Prothean DNA so that they don't need for example digestive systems (as noted by Mordin, replaced by tech), and to reduce their mental capabilities. If there were enough similarities (the quadruple helix was the eye opener) to definitely connect them with Protheans then the bulk of their DNA has remained the largely the same (Note how EDI pinpoints the colony the Collector originated from). What Reapers did wipe was evolutionary dead ends (among other things, but they didn't flush the enitre code) And as said, some Prothean DNA already exists, so, Collector DNA could fill in the blanks (if there are in fact any). I agree that the Collectors are no longer Protheans, I'm not arguing that. But the bulk of their genetic code can still be used to recreate a Prothean along with what we already know.

Modifié par SSJ5, 02 avril 2011 - 03:15 .

[DinoCrisisFan]

Sure, why not?

[sympathy4saren]

The Protheans/Collectors are extinct.

[Darth Death]

Cool idea, but I don't think it would be plausible...

[Dave666]

When I read this I got a couple of ideas in my head that made me laugh. Imagine that we have a Prothean that was in a stasis pod on Ilos and it wakes up and joins our party. Its 50,000 years into the future it ain't gonna understand our language. I can just imagine the squad banter.

Prothy:agshdglasdglasdfhjgasgdacffdnvb

Shep: Tali, Prothy asks how you are.

Tali: Fine thanks Prothy.

Shep:asdgalseghfuytot

Prothy:iyterlahgdfckh

Shep:Prothy says he's glad to hear that.

[SSJ5]

Dave666 wrote...

When I read this I got a couple of ideas in my head that made me laugh. Imagine that we have a Prothean that was in a stasis pod on Ilos and it wakes up and joins our party. Its 50,000 years into the future it ain't gonna understand our language. I can just imagine the squad banter.

Prothy:agshdglasdglasdfhjgasgdacffdnvb

Shep: Tali, Prothy asks how you are.

Tali: Fine thanks Prothy.

Shep:asdgalseghfuytot

Prothy:iyterlahgdfckh

Shep:Prothy says he's glad to hear that.

That's pure gold right there.

Modifié par SSJ5, 02 avril 2011 - 03:51 .

[Sursion]

There's many bad idea's on this forum, but this is right up there.

[SSJ5]

Sursion wrote...

There's many bad idea's on this forum, but this is right up there.

To each his own, dude.

[implodinggoat]

Darth Death wrote...

Cool idea, but I don't think it would be plausible...

I disagree.  In fact I kind of expect we might see some original Protheans at some point.

In ME1 the fate of the Protheans who reprogrammed the Keepers is never resolved for certain.  Vigil speculates that they likely died of starvation onboard the Citadel; but you never find out for certain.

In addition ME1 hints that there are many parts of the Citadel's lower levels that remain unexplored since they have been locked off by the Keepers.  The same Keepers who the Protheans reprogrammed.

So I think it would be pretty cool if in ME3 we got to explore the unexplored areas of the Citadel and if we did it seems perfectly logical that we might bump into some original Prothenas in deep stasis.

If nothing else I'd like to see exactly what they looked like before the Reapers screwed with their DNA.

[CitizenSnips]

Contrived.

[SSJ5]

implodinggoat wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

Cool idea, but I don't think it would be plausible...

I disagree.  In fact I kind of expect we might see some original Protheans at some point.

In ME1 the fate of the Protheans who reprogrammed the Keepers is never resolved for certain.  Vigil speculates that they likely died of starvation onboard the Citadel; but you never find out for certain.

In addition ME1 hints that there are many parts of the Citadel's lower levels that remain unexplored since they have been locked off by the Keepers.  The same Keepers who the Protheans reprogrammed.

So I think it would be pretty cool if in ME3 we got to explore the unexplored areas of the Citadel and if we did it seems perfectly logical that we might bump into some original Prothenas in deep stasis.

If nothing else I'd like to see exactly what they looked like before the Reapers screwed with their DNA.

That never occured to me. Good thinking.