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implodinggoat wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

Cool idea, but I don't think it would be plausible...

I disagree.  In fact I kind of expect we might see some original Protheans at some point.

In ME1 the fate of the Protheans who reprogrammed the Keepers is never resolved for certain.  Vigil speculates that they likely died of starvation onboard the Citadel; but you never find out for certain.

In addition ME1 hints that there are many parts of the Citadel's lower levels that remain unexplored since they have been locked off by the Keepers.  The same Keepers who the Protheans reprogrammed.

So I think it would be pretty cool if in ME3 we got to explore the unexplored areas of the Citadel and if we did it seems perfectly logical that we might bump into some original Prothenas in deep stasis.

If nothing else I'd like to see exactly what they looked like before the Reapers screwed with their DNA.

This. I think that sneaking through the black, dusty, silent tunnels of the citadel in search of a Prothean in cryosleep would be really cool. Imagine the tension!

[JadeEffect]

Protheans are long dead. Collectors have genetic rewrite, what ever DNA is diluted.

[Golden Owl]

JustinTR wrote...

So... shepard can be brought back to life after being in an explosion, suffocating in vacuum, reentering atmosphere, crashing to the ground, and being dead for 2 years. We can go anywhere in the galaxy, we can have a geth companion, we can kill hundreds of enemies with only 3 people, there are living machines living in dark space that can talk, strategize, and kill ****ing everything, people can kill you with biotics, asari are an all female race, a prothean VI still functions after 50k years, organics can be turned to husks a dead reaper can stay in orbit around a gas giant for 37million years, .... and you still don't think there's a possibility that somehow, somewhere, there's a single prothean still alive?

You hit the nail on the head.

[Ice Cold J]

1Nosphorus1 wrote...

Companion...eeeeehhhh maybe not, I wouldn't mind being able to talk to one in some sort of Vat or fluid or whatever, a protheian in stasis or whatever controlling the keepers or blablabla, atleast let us get a certain look at the bloody things!

I think they're pretty integral to the story, and would rather remember seeing them as they were than the bug thing collectors.

You didn't see all the statues sitting around Ilos? Or the sculpture in Donovon Hock's vault in Kasumi's loyalty mission?

Golden Owl wrote...

JustinTR wrote...

So... shepard can be brought back to life after being in an explosion, suffocating in vacuum, reentering atmosphere, crashing to the ground, and being dead for 2 years. We can go anywhere in the galaxy, we can have a geth companion, we can kill hundreds of enemies with only 3 people, there are living machines living in dark space that can talk, strategize, and kill ****ing everything, people can kill you with biotics, asari are an all female race, a prothean VI still functions after 50k years, organics can be turned to husks a dead reaper can stay in orbit around a gas giant for 37million years, .... and you still don't think there's a possibility that somehow, somewhere, there's a single prothean still alive?

You hit the nail on the head.

Shepard was dead for two years. The Protheans have been dead for 50,000. Even if they didn't die, NOTHING (Reapers and Thorian aside) live that long.
As some ME uber-fanboys pointed out to me, Asari are not "all female," but "mono-gendered."
Why can't machines function after 50,000 years? I'd say that's more likely than an organic being living that long...
A Reaper is massive, like a very, VERY small moon, so why couldn't it stay in orbit?

[Bungie.Net Sucks]

If there was a DAMN good explanation, and the Prothean looked okay, I'd support this.

But please, for the love of god don't say "We cloned it from ancient DNA!" DAMN IT!

[ShadyKat]

Protheans have been extinct for thousands of countless years, no way they should be brought back. I'd just rather see the other races already in the game, expand upon.

[Valmarn]

implodinggoat wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

Cool idea, but I don't think it would be plausible...

I disagree.  In fact I kind of expect we might see some original Protheans at some point.

In ME1 the fate of the Protheans who reprogrammed the Keepers is never resolved for certain.  Vigil speculates that they likely died of starvation onboard the Citadel; but you never find out for certain.

In addition ME1 hints that there are many parts of the Citadel's lower levels that remain unexplored since they have been locked off by the Keepers.  The same Keepers who the Protheans reprogrammed.

So I think it would be pretty cool if in ME3 we got to explore the unexplored areas of the Citadel and if we did it seems perfectly logical that we might bump into some original Prothenas in deep stasis.

If nothing else I'd like to see exactly what they looked like before the Reapers screwed with their DNA.

Hell, if nothing else, I'd like to explore the lower levels of the Citadel.

The Citadel is, afterall, Reaper technology. For all we know, a hint at defeating them lay in the Citadel.

[Ice Cold J]

Valmarn wrote...

Hell, if nothing else, I'd like to explore the lower levels of the Citadel.

The Citadel is, afterall, Reaper technology. For all we know, a hint at defeating them lay in the Citadel.

QFT

[SSJ5]

Ice Cold J wrote...
You didn't see all the statues sitting around Ilos? Or the sculpture in Donovon Hock's vault in Kasumi's loyalty mission?

Those all seem like Prothean husks to me, and even the one in Hock's vault seems like it came from Ilos.
http://images.wikia....dexProthean.png

Ice Cold J wrote...
Shepard was dead for two years. The Protheans have been dead for 50,000. Even if they didn't die, NOTHING (Reapers and Thorian aside) live that long.
As some ME uber-fanboys pointed out to me, Asari are not "all female," but "mono-gendered."
Why can't machines function after 50,000 years? I'd say that's more likely than an organic being living that long...
A Reaper is massive, like a very, VERY small moon, so why couldn't it stay in orbit?

The Reaper stayed in orbit thanks to his Mass Effect fields, which remained active for the 37 million years. 

[Ice Cold J]

SSJ5 wrote...

Ice Cold J wrote...
You didn't see all the statues sitting around Ilos? Or the sculpture in Donovon Hock's vault in Kasumi's loyalty mission?

Those all seem like Prothean husks to me, and even the one in Hock's vault seems like it came from Ilos.
http://images.wikia....dexProthean.png

Then they must basically look like us, because that husk looks every similar to the 1,000s I've blasted away over the past two years.

Just sayin'... aside fromt he tendril-looking things coming out of its chest, they look very human-like. To me at least.

SSJ5 wrote...

Ice Cold J wrote...
A Reaper is massive, like a very, VERY small moon, so why couldn't it stay in orbit?

The Reaper stayed in orbit thanks to his Mass Effect fields, which remained active for the 37 million years. 

So what's SO hard to believe about that? As I said before, why couldn't a perfectly made machine run for so long? Theoretically. I mean, we're not talking about XBOXes avoiding the red ring of death for more than 2 years.

[Garuda One]

They're dead, all of them. Stop it.

[Asch Lavigne]

One of my "I hope its not this" theories is that TIM is really a Prothean.

[Minister of Sound]

Ice Cold J wrote...

1Nosphorus1 wrote...

Companion...eeeeehhhh maybe not, I wouldn't mind being able to talk to one in some sort of Vat or fluid or whatever, a protheian in stasis or whatever controlling the keepers or blablabla, atleast let us get a certain look at the bloody things!

I think they're pretty integral to the story, and would rather remember seeing them as they were than the bug thing collectors.

You didn't see all the statues sitting around Ilos? Or the sculpture in Donovon Hock's vault in Kasumi's loyalty mission?

Golden Owl wrote...

JustinTR wrote...

So... shepard can be brought back to life after being in an explosion, suffocating in vacuum, reentering atmosphere, crashing to the ground, and being dead for 2 years. We can go anywhere in the galaxy, we can have a geth companion, we can kill hundreds of enemies with only 3 people, there are living machines living in dark space that can talk, strategize, and kill ****ing everything, people can kill you with biotics, asari are an all female race, a prothean VI still functions after 50k years, organics can be turned to husks a dead reaper can stay in orbit around a gas giant for 37million years, .... and you still don't think there's a possibility that somehow, somewhere, there's a single prothean still alive?

You hit the nail on the head.

Shepard was dead for two years. The Protheans have been dead for 50,000. Even if they didn't die, NOTHING (Reapers and Thorian aside) live that long.
As some ME uber-fanboys pointed out to me, Asari are not "all female," but "mono-gendered."
Why can't machines function after 50,000 years? I'd say that's more likely than an organic being living that long...
A Reaper is massive, like a very, VERY small moon, so why couldn't it stay in orbit?

More like you hit the nail on the thread.

[SSJ5]

Ice Cold J wrote...
So what's SO hard to believe about that? As I said before, why couldn't a perfectly made machine run for so long? Theoretically. I mean, we're not talking about XBOXes avoiding the red ring of death for more than 2 years.

I'm saying that the Reaper who has suffered very heavy damage from a Mass Effect shot that tore a gigantic crater in a planet, had enough energy to keep itself from subcumming to amospheric drag and tidal forces (it wasn't in orbit), of a brown dwarf no less, for an insanely huge amount of time. 37 million years is a considerable time period, even on the cosmic time scale. It was effectively dead, and yet its Mass Effect fields were up and running like it put 'em up yesterday. I'm not saying that given Mass effect world technology its impossible, but its extremely unplausable. But it looked awesome. And why? Cause it was well placed in the story, didn't look forced and was tied into the previous story. That's just how good Bioware is.

Ice Cold J wrote...
Then they must basically look like us, because that husk looks
every similar to the 1,000s I've blasted away over the past two years.

Just sayin'... aside fromt he tendril-looking things coming out of its chest, they look very human-like. To me at least.

Read the new Game Informer spoilers, and you'll see that there's more to it than meets the eye. And Also while Ilos statues look like human husks they have very distinctive features. And husking process seems to tend to gravitate toward a standardized husk form.

Modifié par SSJ5, 09 avril 2011 - 08:27 .

[DxWill10]

SSJ5 wrote...


Did you not read my posts? A few others and I explained the possibility of a Prothean return.

There is no possibility of a prothean return

[Arken]

implodinggoat wrote...

In ME1 the fate of the Protheans who reprogrammed the Keepers is never resolved for certain.

In addition ME1 hints that there are many parts of the Citadel's lower levels that remain unexplored since they have been locked off by the Keepers.  The same Keepers who the Protheans reprogrammed.

Honestly why does everyone overlook this. Foreshadowing since the begining. Protheans are still alive inside the Citadel. Personally I would rather have finding the Prothean be a big twist prior to the big finale. Similar to Vigil in Mass Effect 1.

I can see it happening perfectly. A keeper is alone in a closed off part of the Citadel. The keeper leads Shepard into a secret part of the Citadel to reveal that the protheans have been developing a way to defeat the reapers ever since they returned to the citadel. The best twist would be if the protheans put themselves in stasis that was programmed to last until the reapers invaded. So they wake back up to give Shepard the key to the galaxies survival right when all hope seems lost.

Seriously. How else is Shepard going to defeat a whole fleet of nearly indestructible machines.Shepard is going to need some magic last minute device/thingy to save the day.

I'm hoping for a device that sends out a signal that disables/weakens the reaper's shields. Meaning they are vulnerable, but they don't just all die anti-climatically.

[Reever]

Would surely be interesting (if well written), but I don´t think a Prothean squaddy is necessary. We already have (the possibility of) an ancient species returning (Rachni)!
Though I´d like to see how they looked like and I´d also like to get to know more about them ^^

[Valmarn]

Ice Cold J wrote...

Shepard was dead for two years. 1. The Protheans have been dead for 50,000. Even if they didn't die, NOTHING (Reapers and Thorian aside) live that long.
2. As some ME uber-fanboys pointed out to me, Asari are not "all female," but "mono-gendered."
Why can't machines function after 50,000 years? I'd say that's more likely than an organic being living that long...
3. A Reaper is massive, like a very, VERY small moon, so why couldn't it stay in orbit?

1. These were the top Prothean scientists that were stuck on the Citadel. So, personally, I don't see it as a very big stretch of the imagination that they were able to build stasis pods, of some sort.

Though Vigil states that every piece of technology was cleaned up, he also states that the Ilos facility severed all contact with the outside world, and was able to remain unknown. With that being said, they could easily have taken any necessary tools and materials from Ilos with them through the Conduit. Afterall, they had to tinker with the controls in the Citadel to modify the signal that is sent to the Keepers. No doubt,  they took anything that they thought they might need, and then some.

2. One doesn't have to be an "uber-fanboy" to recognize the difference between "feminine" and "female." Hell, having spent 5 years of my life in the Bay Area (between '87 and '92), I can assure you that those two terms are not always mutually inclusive.

3. Because it was in the grip of the gravitation pull of a brown dwarf, with its mass effect core the only thing keeping it from being pulled any closer.

[Ice Cold J]

1. Where? They were presumably stuck on the Citadel. And if so, why not wake up every now and then to warn whoever might find the Citadel that giant ****ing machines were coming to wipe them out?
2. I agree that the Asari are basically supposed to be an all-female race. But I got reprimanded for it, so I' reprimanding the other poster in turn.
3. And what's SO unbelievable about that? We're in a universe where we can move objects with our minds and sentient dreadnaughts are killing the entire galaxy every 50,000 years.

[Dark_Caduceus]

No, rachni queen would make a better squad mate.

[Bluko]

They're dead Jim.

And any of them that were still sort of left all got fried when Shepard turned the Collector Base into a giant bug zapper or just blew it up. Not that the Collectors are really Protheans anyways.

There's what only 12 actual Prothean scientists that survived from Ilos? The only Prothean I can imagine being alive was one of those scientists who built the Conduit. This is possible, because they also reprogrammed the keepers as well. So maybe one or two of them created a stasis pod on the Citadel somewhere. Perhaps they only wake up in ME3 cause that's when they set their alarm?



Also Shepard is about the only one who can understand Prothean. It could be nifty if they do it right.

LOL imagine Shepard having a Geth and a Prothean in his squad. That'd really turn some heads.

[Taura-Tierno]

I would definitely be open to seeing a live Prothean. But as a companion? No.

[JeffZero]

I prefer to imagine they all went boom in ME2.

[SSJ5]

Arken wrote...
Honestly why does everyone overlook this. Foreshadowing since the begining. Protheans are still alive inside the Citadel. Personally I would rather have finding the Prothean be a big twist prior to the big finale. Similar to Vigil in Mass Effect 1.

This is what I was talking about earlier. Vigil has no idea what happned to the Protheans who went through the Conduit. Citadel is a place with A LOT of power being generated without need for outside assistance. And no one is using it. Maintanining cryogenic chambers, even in massive numbers, is very easy with the keepers there. In theory they could do it indefinitely.

DxWill10 wrote...
There is no possibility of a prothean return

A well argumented post.

[SSJ5]

Well, well ... Day 1 DLC - The Prothean (Adventure/Character) .... Thoughts?

Modifié par SSJ5, 06 juin 2011 - 08:39 .